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Sure I can write it down, but then again I can write down Hairy Puke-filled dinosaur **** and that doesn't mean THAT exists.

So the number 227, is it just a myth? Has any one actually ever come across this number in real life? What mind boggling complex calculus can you use to prove to me that it isn't just a figment of our imaginations (like the said dinosaur's handbag that I just made up)

10 points to the most complicated answer

2006-08-30 21:58:01 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

YES: these answers are getting more convaluted and crazy by the second...keep em coming...I love it

2006-08-30 23:09:16 · update #1

22 answers

Pay no attention to 'Peanos Axioms'. There are only five of them so that Peano is soon played out.

The fact is that there is *no* such thing as 227 and I will pay $100 (American) to anyone who sends me a picture of "227'ness" that doesn't involve anything else (like beans or sticks or kumquats). Sure, you can show me 227 'things', but you can't show me "227'ness" all by itself because it simply doesn't exist.

Just as you can have the 'abstract idea' of "Hairy Puke-filled dinosaur ****" you can also have the 'abstract idea' of "227'ness". But, like religion, it's a very personal thing. My concept of "227'ness" may be (in fact, almost certainly is) vastly different than yours. And people have died for these concepts (ask the Pythagoreans whose punishment was death for revealing the existence of conceptual things which could not be described in terms of other conceptual things) That, if nothing else, should certainly should qualify Mathematics for the status of a Religion (or a serious brain disease ☺)

And why is it that so many people spend so much time trying to 'axiomatize' these abstract and non-existent 'things' we call numbers? Why do we try to find all manner of 'relationships' between them? I can, for example tell you that the sum of all of the odd numbers up to and including 227 is 12,769 because the sum of the first n odd numbers is n².

It's mainly because Religion, the arch-nemisis of *all* intelligent thought, has forbidden us to masturbate. And so intelligent people everywhere have turned to mathematics as a substitutional form of 'mental masturbation'.

It's all just good, clean fun (until somebody goes crazy ☺)


Doug

2006-08-31 01:07:27 · answer #1 · answered by doug_donaghue 7 · 1 0

well u see 227 does exist , it comes from the 22 family and the 7 on the end mean its seventh in line to the 22 dynasty well i have heard of a rumor that 227 and all his hench men are going to topple the 22 family and start the new kingdom at 227 thus making 227 the head of the family and he will then be really power full.
we as humans only know certain numbers that exist because the other ones are too power full for us to know, its a bit like the men in black film with those aliens on earth and we don't know that they exist, this is the very same.
so now 227 is the head of the kingdom i believe that we will all know about 227 soon because the word on the street is that 227 will try to take over the world as we know it and we all will know of 227 existence.
hope this helps and all the best for the future cause we will need it 227 is coming

2006-08-30 22:14:47 · answer #2 · answered by stephen488@btinternet.com 2 · 1 0

First assume that 227 exists. Using the equation on the Cayley-Menger Determinant

227V² = [ d0 0 d23 d47 d13, d4 0 1 d13 d8, d12 d44 0 0 d27, d11 d43 d18 0 0, 0 d9 d12 d3 d23]

Using this formula we obtain an optimization problem in six variables, that can be solved using interval arithmetic. Integrating over the sequence of natural numbers, and taking the
inverse derivative, this can be simplified to:

V = a * exp(-x^2/2) + b*P(Z>x) where p,a,b are known, and coincidentally d23 and Z are reciprocal polar coordinate factors of googol (10^100) times cos(ln(2))² / 226 mod 13 + P(100,2) + 228^ pi/e^phi. With the limit approaching 98.6°F on a truncated pyramid of height 166.9m and an angular momentum of 1.21 Gigawatts, we can see clearly there is no analytic form for P(Z>x), so this equation can be further reduced to the following:

| Z - 227 | = phi ^ [ (a-x) (b-x) (c-x) ... (x-x) (y-x) (z-x) ]

Using the Wrigglemen-Ferdle conjecture and the Cherry-Pi axiom of transfinite imaginary numbers... the fractal coefficient finally resolves to:

226 = 228

However, we know this to be an invalid equation thereby disproving our initial assumption that 227 exists.

227 does *not* exist, proof by contradiction. :)

2006-08-30 22:19:30 · answer #3 · answered by Puzzling 7 · 1 0

227 actually exists, because the prime
227 = 226 + 1
The sum of its figures is 11;
the product of the digits is 28.
The sum of the first 227 natural numbers is 25878,
so 25878 is triangle number 227.
1/227 = 1/228 + 1/51756
227 = 9^2 + 9^2 + 7^2 + 4^2
227 = 9^2 + 9^2 + 8^2 + 1^2
227 = 11^2 + 9^2 + 7^2 + 3^2
227 = 12^2 + 9^2 + 1^2 + 1^2
227 = 13^2 + 7^2 + 3^2
227 = 15^2 + 1^2 + 1^2
and many more

Th

2006-08-30 23:37:02 · answer #4 · answered by Thermo 6 · 0 0

well 227 is a very mysterious number, the number 227 i beleive exists as it can be proved by breaking it down. Now we know the number two exists and that makes up two parts of the problem and number 7 we know exists. When you puit the three numbers together you make 227. Althought this is not evident enough, 227 is easily gotten to by multiplication, division, subtraction and many other forms of maths. Therefor i beleive number 227 exists and it is a very tasteful number. Hope i helped ;)

2006-08-30 22:08:58 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Peano's Axioms

Now, we assume that the set of all natural numbers has the following properties:

Axiom 1:
1 is a natural number. That is, our set is not empty; it contains an object called 1 (read ``one'').

Axiom 2:
For each x there exists exactly one natural number, called the successor of x, which will be denoted by x'.

Axiom 3:
We always have x' not equal 1 . That is, there exists no number whose successor is 1.

Axiom 4:
If x'=y' then x=y. That is, for any given number there exists either no number or exactly one number whose successor is the given number.

Axiom 5 (Axiom of Induction):
Let there be given a set M of natural numbers, with the following properties:

I. 1 belongs to M.
II. If x belongs to M then so does x'.

Then M contains all the natural numbers.

If we define the successor:

x' = x + 1,

Then since 1 exists, we let x = 1,

x' = (1) + 1

x' = 2

The successor of 1 is 2.
Since 2 exists, we let x = 2,

x' = (2) + 1

x' = 3

The successor of 2 is 3.
Since 3 exists, we let x = 3,

and so on ... until we reach 227.

Therefore if 1 exists, 227 also exists by the proof of induction.

2006-08-30 22:35:38 · answer #6 · answered by ideaquest 7 · 0 0

(100 x 5) + 200) / 70 x 20 + (3 to the power of 3) = 227

2006-08-30 22:05:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

(sorry: Correc place)
227 is the (49)th prime number.

Here's a little prime curiosa based on Diophantine equations: 227n + 251n + 257n = 233n + 239n + 263n, n = 1, 2. Note that 227 is least of the 6 distinct primes!

"227" is a NBC sitcom (aired in primetime!) starring Marla Gibbs. [Hultquist]

227 = 2*3*5*7+2+3+5+7 is prime.

22/7 is the famous value of pi correct to two decimal places. [Gupta]

The smallest three-digit prime that is changed into a composite number if any digit is deleted.

The smallest three-digit prime p such that 2^p-p^2 is also prime.

2006-08-31 18:56:02 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I do not think numbers exists. They are means to count some thing. there may be 227 apples or 227 banana's but without item what is a number. Additionally how can you give me 10 points because 10 does not exist. You can give me 10 points but cannot give me 10

2006-08-30 22:21:25 · answer #9 · answered by Mein Hoon Na 7 · 0 0

Only two numbers actually exsist. 1 and 0. 227 is just 227 ones really.

2006-08-30 22:01:20 · answer #10 · answered by Rock N' Roll Junkie 5 · 0 1

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