My best friend is struggling with homosexuality. And his ex boyfriend along with their roomate all say they were born that way. But..2 out of the 3 were sexually abused as children. Why do people seem to skate over such an obvious reason for someone being gay. And why do people get upset on here just caus I don't share the same views they do? Isn't that discrimination? I love my best friend with all my heart along with his ex boy friend and roomate. But why do people seem to think employing tough love is not love? I do not condone their actions just as parent would not condone their child stealing, but they still love the child do they not? Love is not always easy right? Sometimes love requires doing what is best for the person right? And why have we accepted as a generation that our forefathers which built this country would not approve of? Have we all forgotten this nation was built on Godly principles or do we just want to skate over that fact as well? Since when is truth not love?
2006-08-30 04:26:35 · 31 answers · asked by mmmk92 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
My percentage has nothing to do with my gay friends that wouldn't make any sense I must have worded it incorrectly. I stated a statistic. Then I told a personal experience . They are not related to each other. You may all message me if you like it may take me awhile to get back but I assure if you give me your email I will. All that is left to say is you will all understand when you get there. And if the rapture comes before you die do not take the mark. I have warned you all in the best way I know how remember do not take the mark.
2006-08-30 07:12:07 · update #1
You are correct. Sexual deviance may be a weakness for some depending on whatever imbalances are there genetically when they are born, but that does not make a person gay. Acting on an improper urge does. Of course, there will be some who will think that I have no idea what I am talking about, but let those people know that I am WELL acquainted with the life of homosexuals and the emotions and thoughts they have. Don't just assume that someone who doesn't support a certain lifestyle does it out of ignorance.
2006-08-30 04:30:46 · answer #1 · answered by da chet 3 · 4⤊ 19⤋
What is the source of your quoted statistical data on sexual abuse of LGBT people? If you are using your friends as the sample then you need to review your math; 2 out of 3 is 66.66%, not 75%. Your number would only be accurate if you were counting yourself in the study and you were an LGBT person that had been sexually abused. I suggest studying statistics as well, since three (or four) people is not an appropriate sample size for legitimate research and quoting it as such is irresponsible.
Someone getting upset with you because they disagree with you is not discrimination. People have brains with which to think and formulate their own opinions. If you think that is discrimination then you have a lot more to learn than I thought.
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you ask about employing tough love. If you mean this to be used as a tool to change their behavior then you deserve to be kicked to the curb. You're a lousy friend. Good friends love their friends for who they are and accept the things they don't like about them. You learn to take it or leave it, as they will eventually do with your friendship.
Your statement that this nation was built on Godly principles is half-baked. This nation was founded on principles common to public morality, which did involve a great deal of the morals brought to this nation from England. However, our Constitution makes it perfectly clear the means by which the government can and cannot control the behavior of its citizens. Specifically, the government cannot condone or provide support of a particular religion, nor can it impose that religion on others. Religion should be an individual's justification for making certain decisions, but it should not be the sole reason used as justification for imposing those moral judgments on others. Liberty and justice for all, regardless of their religion or lack thereof.
Out of four major discussion points you offered, you are 87.5% wrong. 25% + 25% + 25% + 12.5% (this is due to your last point being half-baked). :-)
2006-08-30 07:38:08 · answer #2 · answered by Speedo Inspector 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Where do you get that statistic? I can find no supporting evidence to that being true. Even your small circle makes the statistic 66.66%.
While there are definitely psychological reasons that some people choose gay as their sexual orientation, the majority feel attracted to the same sex from puberty onward--without ever experiencing sexual abuse. That is a physiological attraction that science is better understanding every day.
Perhaps you should question why you are so opposed to someone else's lifestyle? What do they or you benefit from your opposition? If the problem is your religious beliefs, then maybe you should consider the Bible's admonishment to "be not unequally yoked" and not be their friend any longer (I'm not advocating this, just pointing out the hypocrisy of it).
This country was founded on the freedom of expression, religious or otherwise. Don't overlook that fact in your headlong rush to condemn your friends.
2006-08-30 04:53:17 · answer #3 · answered by Tuckster 1 · 7⤊ 1⤋
let me put it to you this way. Conditioning is a factor. But there are certain questions that should be considered. If I forced you to eat broccoli everyday and you hated Broccoli would you
A) Hate Broccoli?
B) or realized you liked it and decided to keep on eating it?
Now I know there is a big difference between molestation and Broccoli but the principle and line of thinking is the same.
Maybe the kid was molested and in some way feels this is the right thing for his body. He likes the touch of a man. He LIKES it being the key word. Or he was conditioned to like it because the molester made him believe so, it still doesn't account for the rest of the homosexuals in the world who never ever got molested and know they were born gay. No one gets mad at you for having your beliefs, people get mad when you say it is a choice or behavior. (therefore saying the rest of the homosexual community chose a Behavioral pattern or Lifestyle that cost them friendships and Family ties)
2006-08-30 05:20:15 · answer #4 · answered by david s 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
So you are assuming that all boys who are molested, are gay? Then you must be assuming that when they are molested that they enjoy it and take on this roll of being a gay person. That at any time they can give up the gay life style and turn straight. You need to do some studying on the subject before you start assuming such things. Most boys who are molested are not gay! Your 75% that you came up with off the top of your head is wrong, get your facts straight.
2006-08-30 05:08:43 · answer #5 · answered by Mark F 4 · 7⤊ 0⤋
Why is it that 75 % of homosexuals where singled out by straight men and raped as children. Perhaps Like all sexual predators they see the signs that a child is born homosexual and will be an easily confused victim. Confusion making it harder to tell adults about the rape because they know they are different inside.
I know because this is what happened to me. I was 9 years old and did not know what a homosexual was but I knew I was different I knew I desired both men and women. I was raped by 7 men because they knew and recognized what I did not. that I had homosexual tendencies and they knew I would be easily confused into believing that if I told others would blame me for being a f@ggot. I didn't know what a f@ggot was but I knew if it involved wanting anal sex that I didn't want anyone to think that about me but I also knew that liking being close to a man was part of my make up too. so I was confused and never told on them. they got away with it and I was psychologically tortured for decades.
We are born this way, and just because you heterosexuals see this and abuse us doesn't make this less valid.
I am bisexual and g0y by birth.
2006-08-30 05:27:45 · answer #6 · answered by ♂ Randy W. ♂ 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
What you stated is far far from statistics... you need to go back to square one with your research... You need to look at the big picture to be able to make an accurate analysis... and not just assume what is posted on a website or some book written by an uneducated person or even worse a homophobic...
I can appreciate your loyalty to your friend... that is highly respectable... but the information you are basing this on is totally out of line...
2006-08-30 08:56:01 · answer #7 · answered by Levi Cristopher . 4 · 4⤊ 1⤋
I wasn't molested as a child. 1 in 3 women is sexually abused as a young girl, that doesn't make 1 in 3 women lesbian. I'm not arguing with your point of view, but you don't have enough evidence to back up your assertions
2006-08-30 06:17:45 · answer #8 · answered by collegedebt 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
God makes gay people just the way they are, and God doesn't make junk. Who are you to judge or disparage any of God's gifts? People say they were born this way because it's the truth.
How DARE you come on here and cite a statistic as evidence that has no truth to it at all! I have met only one gay man (out of thousands) who was sexually abused as a child. (I will take this back if you can show me the source - I highly doubt it.)
This nation was founded on the separation of church and state.
Since you seem to be espousing truth, why not own up to the fact that you are in no way behaving as a 'christian' by preaching hatred, discrimination and therefore violence against LGBT people? WWJD?
No one needs to "struggle with homosexuality" until they meet a bigot like you.
2006-08-30 04:47:08 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 10⤊ 3⤋
are you basing your 75% stats on you 2 out of 3 friends? because that stat is WAY off as far as the entire community is concerned. I know very few gay/lesbians that were abused as children. and being abused doesn't turn someone gay. most people I've met who were abused are straight!
someone not agreeing with your views is not discriminating, they are simply disagreeing. and just because you don't approve of something doesn't mean it's wrong, either.
people ARE born gay or straight. when did you CHOSE to be straight? what "caused" you to turn straight? would your family approve? and not everyone in this country is Christian or even religious. so, does that make them "wrong" as well?
2006-08-30 04:35:49 · answer #10 · answered by redcatt63 6 · 12⤊ 0⤋
Making up percentages is not in your best interest. If you got that percentage from a religion based hate.org website let me clue you in, they made it up also. If you derived it from knowing 3 gay people you should look up the concept of random sampling. Your "truth" is not required to be everyone else's truth - and your best friend is not a child. Why have you designated yourself as the giver of "tough love" when it is unwelcome? I very much wonder if your best friend considers you as the same. This nation was born of people who sought to escape the "tough love" their former religious governments offered them. It was built on the backs of immigrants. Thanks to the founders (whose religious beliefs differed widely) we can be confident of not being required to follow anyone else's religious mores.
2006-08-30 06:45:10 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋