Since When Did Putting 'Facist' Before A Word Make It More 'Evil'?

Question

Hey guys.

Just reading on Yahoo news about Rummys comments about a new form of 'Facism' in the world. Now, since i assume hes not talking about his own regime, i can guess he means Islamic Fundamentalism.

So, a quick question.
With stupid phrases like 'Islamo-Facist' and the like being thrown around by people who should know better, do you think its time the right-wing dropped its stupid hate mongering? Trust me, im European (British), so i know what a facist is, and an Islamic Fundamentalist is not facist, or any other form of 'National Socialist'.
Also, is their some sort of reasonign behind using Facism to describe the current 'enemy', or is it simply sticking 2 words togetehr to make them seem 'evil'?

Answer 1

Since WW2. And it's just another marketing phrase to evoke emotion.

And you are correct about their being a difference between a fundamentalist and a fascist. A fascist, by definition, is advocating for the establishment of an authoritarian govt. I don't recall many terrorists being actively involved in establishing any type of govt.

Answer 2

Since the 1930s I beleive. Islamo-fascist is a funny word though since the structure of the current state of terrorism shows very little centralized organization, nor has their leader been elected or appointed. Its just a dirty word that has described some of the most despicable people throughout history. Still waiting for an expansion of the definition from the Party. It will come soon.

Answer 3

Well see, everybody "gets" that Hitler was a bad guy and he was a fascist. So I think the Bush marketing department came up with the idea that people who don't get how bad the Muslims are will get it if we call them fascists. It probably won't work however, because a lot of people have been calling Bush and his cronies fascists ever since the first time he wasn't exactly elected president. Then we will have people confused over which one is the pot and which one is the kettle.

Answer 4

Since Hitler and Mussolini. As far as whether they are fascist or not depends on whether or not you believe that their stated goal of having Islam rule the world with a theocratic government using the Qaran as its basis for governing qualifies them as being fascist. Frankly I do. The most radical of the islamic fringes believe that the Qaran is the ultimate authority and that everyone should live by its creed. They are even so dogmatic as to consider other muslims who believe differently to also be infidels. There is no middle ground with these people and there is no compromise. Believe as they do, do as they say and worship who and how they say or you're infidel and therefore fair game to be murdered.

What would you call that?

Answer 5

can't agree more,,
but this is since someone stupid can state another one (or another country,or even religion ) as a terrorist when they r not doing the expectations and ,which is even worse,expect us to believe.
and since another one sends his troops invading another country cus of a "dream " he saw!!!
and guess what since stupids r in conrol
god has a great sence of humer

Answer 6

It became evil when the spin doctors in DC said it was.

Answer 7

So please explain to us historically challenged Americans (who basically enabled a crippled Europe to push back the last version of fascism to visit the Old Continent), what exactly is fascism and why is it so absent of evil?

Oxford (English) Dictionary:

1 an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government.
2 extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

(so, I see, sounds an awful lot like the George, Dick and Donny show, right? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.)

Merriam-Webster (American) Dictionary:

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

(sounds an awful lot like the Ahmadinejad/Khameini circus, but then again, I as an American must have a severely skewed view of the world)

Fascism, in essence, is a governing environment that douses any and all traces of dissent from the governed population. If you ever lived in the U.S., you would know this is the world capital of vocal and vociferous public dissent on anything and everything (real and imagined). Some people can even be found dissenting from themselves (errrrrr Hilary Clinton, George W. Bush)...

What is fundamental about Islam, we must ask ourselves: Is it a religion that tolerates different ethnicities? Absolutely, so long as you convert to Islam. Is it a religion that is practiced in peace? Yes, as long as you're in a mosque. Once outside the mosque, many Muslims have no qualms raising banners and burning flags and effigies and enciting violence against Jews, Christians or that week's out-of-favor sect of Islam (be it Sunni, Shi'ite, Sufi or what have you). Much of the Quran does speak of peace, much of it talks of defending 'the faith' through violent and total defeat of its enemies. So in calling terrorists a product of fundamental Islam, are we not then condemning all of Islam by saying their fundamental practitioners are senseless murderers? No, that is not an adequate definition, not yet at least (even though a great majority of Muslims in the Middle East, through verified polling, have declared their distaste of anything Israeli or American, besides money).

So, we must look at what is the driving force behind the practitioners of Islam that oppose the West, the Christian and Jewish West, an opposition founded solely in violence, proactive and reactive combat and a clear and disturbing lack of moderation from not only Muslim religious leaders, but also Muslim political leaders. We all know our predilection for oil. It runs our lives. We know it, we're comfortable with it, we pay for it, in many ways, and we pay handsomely for it. Conversely, our vendors use that money to foment and finance the death and destruction of the very customers they rely upon to achieve and advance their wealth. Rather odd, but at least we know that much of the playing field. So in response to this: invasive hatred of all things Christian or Jewish, comprehensive rejection of all things secular and progressive, adoption and embrace of suicide as a means of 'resisting' the natural and required progression of man on a technological and political trajectory, what, I beseech you, is the West going to do?

Well, the EU is content to do nothing but watch a small Muslim minority within its borders grow ever stronger, more vocal, more violent and fully content to use all the constitutional safeguards established to protect EU citizens, against those very citizens who accepted them into their homelands and into their community, on the grounds of some conspicuous societal benefit (NONE of which, by the way, has been realized in the EU). So long as the Old Continent is satisfied to look the other way while the Muslim community grows in number and unrest, there should be no expectation of a lessening in violence or an enhanced sense of security. That is not fearmongering, that is simply the likely result of not requiring immigrants to assimilate into the extant society but rather enabling them to sequester themselves, develop political and often paramilitary organizations completely disassociated from the mainstream society, and not empowering government or the community to police and isolate the violently anti-democratic, anti-capitalist, anti-Judeo/Christian, anti-Western elements so that their NEGATIVE effects on society can be called what they truly are and be neutralized for the good of society. It's common sense, yet not commonly practiced. Those who do not support the good of the general population, should not receive support, aid or comfort from the general population. Yet Americans are chastised, with no exercise of reason, for suggesting that the destructive elements of society should be identified, isolated and brought to justice. Somehow this is politically insensitive. To whom? I would ask.

The U.S. is not content with appeasement, with non-binding negotiation and entreaty, with continually looking the other way as the values and precepts which our nation was founded upon and which has ensured our survival for over two centuries is attacked from without and within by those who prefer mankind live under the oppressive yoke of a regressive pseudo-religious ideology.

Let's re-visit the definition..."Fascism is a political philosophy, movement or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.."

Islam as practiced by the Iranian regime is more than religion, it is law and administration. It is such that it exalts the religious nation above the individual, in a centralized, SEVERELY autocratic government (where the religious administrators have final say over elected officials on almost all matters of state), headed by a dictatorial leader with significant economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition..." This is the new binding agent for Muslims worldwide, the example Muslims are looking to, to defeat an imagined enemy (U.S.), with no regard as to the methods and destruction employed to do so. There is no possibility to voice dissent, it is physically crushed. There is no opportunity to exercise social and economic freedom of the individual, that also is owned by the government under sharia law. There is a definitional congruence between Iran and Fascism, between Hezbollah and Fascism, between Al Qaeda and Fascism, all forces which seek first to destroy all dissenters, and short of that, to convert dissenters by force to a regimentation of their life in total, to the dictates of THEIR religion, under no preconceived notions of peaceful co-existence of religious varieties. This is what the West, the EU, America and the non-Muslim world is faced with: an organized, well-financed and combative wave of fascism under the banner of the literal Quran.

No two words are more united in today's political climate than Islam and Fascism. It is unfortunate, as American Muslims by and large do not support the myopic and self-defeatist policies of Iran, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, et al. But it is UNDENIABLE, that the predominant anti-West/anti-Christian military force today is guided by fascist Muslims. To say otherwise would be ignoring the reality on the ground. We can spin almost any story to disguise or misconvey the true intent of the actors in the story. But when scores of men choose to die in the name of Islam and to take thousands of innocent men, women and children with them, such a call to arms must be combatted, forcefully and DECISIVELY.

If we so value the ability to dissent, to opinionate, to debate and discourse, why are we so excited and willing to defend those who seek nothing but the destruction of these natural human rights? It is a complete and categorical conflict between civilizations, and there is no middle ground being sought from the Muslim side. Almost all are content with marching forward into an imagined defense of a soulless movement for the glory not of the Almighty who they deem to be serving, but to glorify themselves in the eyes of the ignorant masses who chant and celebrate their deaths in the defense against 'infidels'. It is a horrific circus, and one whose ringleaders must eventually face judgment or expiration, if the world's OTHER religions are to hope to survive.