If I say "I don't know if the holocaust happened", does that mean I'm denying it?

Question

In my other question http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aju39yo.HYptsv0QPvgvZRHsy6IX?qid=20060828205655AAAKx1p I said "controversial holocaust" cause many people made studies to prove that it didn't happen, so I ended up not knowing if it happened or no, yet I'm not denying it! I just don't know! Is that a crime?
-Russia had theories that America lied about landing on the moon, and many Americans said it was Stanley Kubrick's studio.. then I don't know if we really landed on the moon or no.
-Alex Jones and many others made investigations that 911 was a false flag and inside job to attack the Middle East.. hence I don't know who really did it.
-Many politicians in the Middle East said Iran's nuclear experiments are a threat to the Arabs more than anyone else because Iran wants to take revenge for the years of war with the Arabs... hence, I don't know Iran is a threat to who for real!

Got it?
So, saying "I don't know" means I'm denying it?

Duh! I'm not asking if it happened or no! I'm asking why is saying "I don't know if it happened" is considered denying it and gets me under attack from pro-holocaust!
What happened to objectivity!

Grrr.. some peole here are really... arrghh!! I can't mass insult you!! Anyway, to make you relax, I have a friend of mine whose grandma survived the holocaust and she told me that her grandma raised her children in a way that's not so jewish in fear that something similar will happen again... so I KNOW IT HAPPENED, but this question is about objectivity and the other question in the link above was to compare the concrete evidences of neo-genocides to the historical evidences of the holocaust.... what i discovered from both questions is that MANY people who defend the holocaust are actually racists because they ignore everything and select the parts they don't like and ignorantly attack upon it!!
Thank you picklebreath for understanding the question.

Thank you as well charmingchatty.. u're one of the few who has the capability of "understanding" questions

Answer 1

Obviously some people here can't handle honesty. You are not denying it's existence. The fact of the matter is that you are what people call a "concrete person" you require concrete things to be able to see reality.
I don't mean for this to sound mean, but people like you generally tend to be the less "faithful" kind of person. They have difficult times with religion for example.
The thing is this though... if you need actual examples and actual survivors (of the Holocaust or lunar travel) to come back to discuss it with you to know it's real, then what can you really take as real?
There is more writings and more evidence of the life of Jesus Christ and his existence than there is of Julius Caesar, but do you believe that he romanced Cleopatra and ruled the Hold Roman empire? Part of it is what do you choose to believe?
Me might have something to gain from falsifying a lunar landing, but what did the Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals of Europe have to gain by falsifying the Holocaust? So what, the Jews got Israel... seems like a real happy place doesn't it??
Have some faith, use your logic too, but truly explore all logical conclusions and answers. You don't sound stupid, just cynical and there is nothing wrong with some cynicism in life, but be careful how you spread it around, some people will take you as ignorant and I hear your thought process... you DO deserve better than that!

Answer 2

I think it is very difficult now for most people to know what the real truth is. I don't think you are denying it occurred by making this kind of statement. Instead it sounds to me like you are saying that with all of the information out there and all of the attempts to undermine these kinds of events it gets hard to view the truth about them, because what is the truth? Also how do you know which is the real truth?

The fact is I agree with you about the holocaust being controversial. In addition to the millions of Jews who perished, millions of Catholics, Gays and handicapped individuals were also killed. Still there are many individuals who still consider the holocaust a jewish issue. I will never deny the pain and suffering of the Jews but the holocaust was a horrifying event that included many groups.

Today it is unfashionable to question. In today's society you can be attacked for wanting to know the truth. Ironically that is very similar to what happened in nazi Germany.

Answer 3

ITo learn from history, we must record its events as accurately and as specifically as possible. We must use words with precision.
The Department of Defense and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum explain the specific terminology:
Total annihilation has been central to the meaning of holocaust since it first appeared in Middle English in the 14th century, used in reference to the biblical sacrifice in which a male animal was wholly burnt on the altar in worship of God.
With the passage of time, the word, "holocaust" has been used in many contexts, and has been given many meanings. For the purpose of recalling the Holocaust ... we must remember what this event was, within the context of history.
TO DO THAT IT IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS NOT:
The Holocaust IS NOT a term for:
--all the evils of the world
--any tragedy of great magnitude, or widespread death and destruction
--all wars or all world wars
--all the terrors in World War II—or all the many civilian deaths associated with that war, in cities throughout Europe.

SOURCE: Days of Remembrance: A Department of Defense Guide for Annual Commemorative Observances (Second edition.)

I hope this helps you a bit DarkMan. If you ever have the time or desire I'd like to sit down talk with you sometime and listen to what your thoughts and opinions are regarding the Middle East.
Peace to you and yours,
Mary

Answer 4

There's "objectivity" and then there's anti-Jewish sentiment. Of course the holocaust "happened". If not, where did all of those millions of Jews go? (To the moon/studio?) If not, what are the survivors' stories? A mass hallucination?
No, the reason people jump on you for that question is that it is a racist, prejudiced thing to ask? You may not have that intention, but that's how it comes off.

Answer 5

You're not denying it. If anything, your remarks implies you've only scratched the surface on the subject---one sided, to be exact. If there are people who made studies to prove it didn't happen, I'm sure there are a lot more anecdotal evidence and millions of surviving witnesses to refute those studies. I'm not a Jew, but I've read enough history and seen enough evidence to believe that Hitler was trying to implement his "Final Solution" for the Jews.
Head to the local library or your nearest bookstore. I'm sure you'll find enough material to finally give you a solid opinion on the matter.

Answer 6

Many RESPONSIBLE people have NOT studied this matter and denied it occurred. Some far right Nazi types have "studied" the matter but they knew the answers they wanted beforehand. So the issue is NOT controversial. ALL serious historians agree that the holocaust was quite real. I can think of no one that is a serious scholar ever has taken this view. NONE NONE

Answer 7

yes u are denying it.

let's say u don't believe all the photographs that were taken by the Nazis themselves, of people being led to the gas chambers, of people's dead bodies in the gas chambers,
of the babies with bullets in their heads because their mothers could not get them to stop crying when their houses were being raided and families dragged off, never to be seen alive again--- of the photos of huge pits into which dead bodies were dumped, all together with no i.d on the bodies except for the tattooed numbers the Nazis put on them, how about all the testimonies of not only survivors of that horror, but the testimonies of officials who participated in the killings who were caught and tried for war crimes and hate crimes? how about all the documents that were found and confiscated telling all about the sick experiments they did to the Jewish people before they killed them?
all of this is proof positive, what more do u want?
I'd say u are in serious denial, it was too big and lasted too long and involved too many people to be faked.
u may not have been there, but that does not mean it did not happen. the torture chambers are still standing up in austwich today.

Answer 8

Your first question is considered anti-semitic. The holocaust DID happen and anyone who claims to "prove" otherwise is a dangerous, whacked-out, delusion psychotic.

The rest are conspiracy theories and you can think what you want, but being a holocaust denier can get you thrown in jail for a long time - and rightly so.

Answer 9

Saying you "don't know" means you don't know. You can't deny something is true or false if you "don't know".

You sound like you want to know. Investigate it for yourself, form your own opinion.

You need to form your own opion, but I feel like throwing mine out there:

Did the "Holocaust" happen? Depends on how you define 'a' holocause and "The Holocaust". "The Holocaust" is the name given a to a timer period/large event in our (world) history. I believe "The Holocaust" happened. Also, some people claim, "Not as many Jews died in The Holocaust as was once said." Well, I don't know how many Jews died in the Holocaust. I also know that Christians were also targetted, as well as anyone who Hitlar felt was a threat to his power, or anyone who was a political dissident.

Was The Holocaust 'a holocaust'? That also depends on your point of view. I'm sure to everyone who was in the concentration camps, and everyone who lost loved ones, and to everyone who was gassed, experimented on, tortured, starved, and every other horrible thing that could happen to a person... everyone who went through that or had loved ones who did... to them it was a holocaust. To anyone who can empithize (myself included) with those who went through it or had loved ones lost in it also see it that way.

Jews (and Christians, and Political Dissents) were put in concentration camps, were gassed, were tortured, did have anything of value stolen from them (even their gold teeth, and hair for making pillows, and skin for making lamp shades). That did happen, and it would have continued if The Reich wasn't stopped.

And that's my view of it, for what that's worth.

Study all sides, investigate all that you can (if you care enough to) and form your own opinion.

It's definately a touchy topic. To tell someone who went through a living hell that their living hell didn't exist... well, If I were them I'd get upset with you too. They know what they lived through, and denying they did is an insult to them and also puts it out there that it can happen again.(If we forget the lessons of history then history repeats it's self.)

Answer 10

I don't believe that researching your world and your history is a bad or unhealthy thing at all. There are many versions about the subject.
yea, some would consider saying you don't know denying it as you will see here.
When there is conflicting point of view that are stated loudly, I always like to research things. I want to see what people are talking about and why from both sides and draw my own conclusion. Why is that unhealthy? I don't know. I wasn't there. I want to learn about the world as well.
I do know that the camps were not in Germany.They are in Poland.
The thing that makes me want to learn is that there have been other holocaust scantly heard about such as 60,000,000 in China and 20,000,000(I think) in Russia under Stalin and why these are never mentioned.