Now if Mel Gibson says " jews are responsible for the wars of the world, people brand him anti-semtic?

Question

In some European countries its even a crime to deny or refer to the Holocaust, Why is that when you say bad Jew and you are branded anti-semtic, say I hate Israel and you are a terrorist? What did Hitler not do that Israel is not doing now?

Answer 1

Okay, let me take this one thing at a time ... I'll be polite, and start by answering the actual question!

It IS anti-Semitic to blame Jews for ALL the wars of the world ... simply because it's not TRUE! If it WAS true then it wouldn't be anti-Semitic to say so - but as it ISN'T true then it's anti-Semitic AND a slanderous lie! They ARE responsible for several wars in the Middle East - but you can hardly blame them for all the others! Just blame them for what they actually DID! I don't blame Bush for ALL wars - even though he's a war-mongering war-criminal!

I don't think I know of any European country where it's a crime to 'refer to' the holocaust. But it IS illegal to deny it it, or question it's severity, in several European countries. All THAT proves is that those countries have dissenters in - and this law is just a way of trying to shut up their big mouths and stop them spreading doubt.

A 'bad Jew' is a Jew who doesn't practice his / her faith properly. Using the phrase for any other reason is dubious at best, anti-Semitic at worst. I don't know the context you're talking about, so that's as far as I can judge.

I don't approve of Israel - or rather, the way it's grown to such a size and the attitude of the occupants towards their neighbours. But I don't say 'I hate Israel' - although if I DID it would NOT make me a terrorist...! Accusing people of being 'terrorists' just because they don't agree with you 100% is only a pathetic ploy used by Bush and the Israelis. Most other world leaders are too mature mentally to use such a stale whinge.

I often - on these pages - liken today's Israelis to nazis. But this only means that they are xenophobic, and that they have no respect for others not of their culture. They are NOT as bad as the nazis - although there's always the possibility that they COULD become that bad. I hope to hell they don't though ...

Now to irritate some of the people who've answered you ...
"Hitler tried to butcher an entire race... an entire world. Israelis are trying to protect themselves from murderers. Read a newspaper."
Let me rephrase that for you ... "Hitler tried to butcher an entire race, and the Israelis are working on it. Hitler tried to butcher an entire world, but no-one can know where the Israelis will stop, so it's pointless speculating about it here. Israelis are trying to protect themselves from murderers. And Arabs too are trying to protect themselves from murderers and invaders. Read a newspaper that is NOT censored by Bush."

"Hitler did a mass-murder of jews, gypsies, and others. Is Israel mass-murdering anyone?" Yes, actually. Didn't you read about what's been happening in Lebanon?

"Israel is trying to keep the land as a Jewish state and the arabs are not letting that. That is all that Israel is doing." Israel had a small portion of land 'given' to them by people who didn't own it in the first place. The Arabs didn't complain - they assumed it would be possible to live side by side in harmony. But the Israelis weren't happy with a small portion of land, they wanted a huge swathe of the Middle East to house ALL the Jews of the world. Since then, they've been stealing land left, right, and centre - and slaughtering or imprisoning any Arab who got in the way. The world did nothing, because whenever the UN were about to use 'sanctions' the US used it's veto to prevent it, and protect it's protégée 'Israel'. Now THAT'S scary - especially as the US has it's OWN (suspect) agenda for the Middle East.

"Israel is protecting themselves so they have to do what they have to do. The terrorists are more Hitlerish." Rubbish! Israel - as a recent example - did NOT have to protect themselves from the Hezbollah members who abducted the 2 soldiers! Israel started bombing Lebanon for the hell of it, and they only REALLY stopped to replenish their weapons because they were surprised at how well-armed Hezbollah actually ARE! Trying to stop someone stealing your land and imprisoning your teenage daughters is NOT Hitler-ish - but stealing people's land and imprisoning their teenage daughters IS Hitler-ish! How would YOU react if some git tried to steal your home illegally? If you're in America, and you have a gun, you'd be legally entitled to shoot the bugger! And I wouldn't blame you...! So WHY are you so hostile to Arabs who do the same?

Answer 2

Maybe he is right... It just so happens that all the important wars of the Western world in the last few thousand years are based on religion. It also happens that since Judaism apparently existed before every other religion in the West, and they laid claim to the land known as Israel, and since Muslims and Christians also have a special connection to Jerusalem/Israel/Palestine, religious wars are centered there. Now, if Christianity was the force laying claim onto the land, he may or may not have accused Christians, though I don't think that he would since he is Christian himself, and also that the Christians of the Western world would have easily totally defeated the Middle East by now.

Answer 3

Mel gibson is an anti-semite because he hates jews; that's basically the definition of anti-semite. Whether or not being an anti-semite is a bad thing depends on your outlook. And, in case you didn't know, the jews are not responsible for all the wars of the world.

I'm no fan of israel, but it's not accurate to compare israel to nazi germany, due to differences of magnitude.

I don't think it's right to "hate" anything, be it nazis or israel. But you are right - there's a disturbing tendency (in american society, at least) to interpret a disapproval of israel as being "pro-terrorist" or "anti-semitic". Whether or not one approves of israel is no indication of their feelings for jews or terrorists.

Answer 4

The sensitivity level is waaaaay to high when there are things you can't say. Free speech? Where?
Old Mel probably is anti-semitic, and it will cost him dearly. But he has a right to his own opinions no matter how screwed up.

Answer 5

No matter how much I disagree with Israel right now.....they are not crowding people into ovens and gassing them.

They are not experimenting a living people.

I could go on and on but I have a feeling you've already got your mind-set about this issue.

You and Mel should get along fine.

Answer 6

Hitler did a mass-murder of jews, gypsies, and others. Is Israel mass-murdering anyone? Not since the last time I checked. Israel is trying to keep the land as a Jewish state and the arabs are not letting that. That is all that Israel is doing.

Answer 7

Hitler wasn't all that bad give the man a chance. Think about all the good things he did.

In all seriousness Israel is protecting themselves so they have to do what they have to do. The terrorists are more Hitlerish.

Answer 8

Hitler tried to butcher an entire race... an entire world. Israelis are trying to protect themselves from murderers. Read a newspaper.

Answer 9

I've been a Mel Gibson fan, since I was just a boy. Now, though, my respect and adoration for him has increased 10 fold. He should NOT apologize for what he said. He just has the guts to say what many of us feel to be axiomatic. There's a real good reason that anti-Jewishness has been around for so long. They just piss people off, no matter what time period it is, or in what state/continent/hemisphere they're in. You should read a book called "Beyond Chutzpah", or "Imaging Reality" by Norman Finkelstein. He's a member of the tribe, but he's not all Zionistic. Remember, A.H. may be dead, but his dream still burns brite!

And to all y'all tattle-tale queers out there, please don't report me. If you don't like my thoughts, then don't read them, or leave a scathing posting of your own. Don't go crying to Yahoo! Answers!

Answer 10

The nice thing about America is that we are all entitled to our own opinions. Unfirtunately pleople judge these opinions and then the can of worms is opened and it's a big mess.