*Muslims, did you know that you don't need to die for Allah?

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Believe it or not, God is Miraculous!- A God of Miricals...
He does not need for you to kill anybody for him.
God holds life and death in his hands. He created every creation. Even sinners can change, and do. We are not their Judge, as you know Jesus is. Give life a chance. Give Jesus a chance by God's saving grace... Miracles happen, be a miracle not a murderer. Suicide bombers are not part of God's plan. They are a hurtful and shameful thing. Please reconsider what God's true plan is. God is Love. He sent Prophets full of Love, never bombs. Please Love me, a sinner??? Please...

Hello Sweet, Sassy and Smart Cheryl! :^)
To jihad and rid the world of fitnah (disbelief in Allah) sounds counterproductive. Even muslim's make fun of Spanish "Crusades" for their cruel tactics. You think they would learn from history. It is counterproductive to kill a soul to win souls...In regards to the Surah 5:32 "prevent the spread of corruption in the world" Isn't it better to preach, reform and live by example like the Prophets, instaed of slaughter and masacre God's creations? It is much better to see a sinner change his ways and Love God than to see a sinner, sinned against through murder... (oximoron) The Prophets never killed. I LOVE your post! Regarding surah8:39 The USA is not "unbelievers" but are as the Quaran says "people of the book!" We Christains and Bible believers Love the Holy Creator! We have a right to be on God's green earth where ever, like every other creation is. God is everywhere, he is Omnipresent! He gave us life and is still breading Christians! :^)

***A question to ALL especially Chery!***
Surah 8:39- As stated above we "USA" are believers, so...
Why kill our innocent women and children living their daily lives=9/11? Why not fight Army to Army, men to men? WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T even do that! But we Love God, so how could those men on the planes cry out to Allah and commit suicide and mass murder thinking it is for their faith. ONLY GOD KNOWS OUR HEARTS!
They with out a doubt killed many people of the faith, in the One True God! ???? This makes me crazy and want to cry and throw -up... :^(

Cheryl, do you know the Holy Bible like you should? :^) XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

Answer 1

Nice try. I really admire what you are trying to accomplish.

Muslims will not disagree with you that God (Allah) is miraculous. You could easily say:
Muslims, did you know that you don't need to die for Allah? As you know, God is miraculous. (can perform miracles) He does not need for you to kill anybody for Him. God holds life and death in His hands. Up to this point they would surely agree.

You could even add the verse in the Qur'an to support your argument: (verse regarding miracle of the virgin Mary/Maryam conceiving Jesus/Issa)
Qur'an Sura Ãli-´Imrãn 3:47
She (Maryam/Mary) said, “Oh my Lord, how can I have a child? No man has ever touched me!” (Allah) said, “Precisely so! Allah creates what He wants. When He decrees anything, He (simply) says to it ‘Be!’ and it becomes.” (Munir Munshey translation) http://www.quransearch.com

What you say next will not get by Muslims, sinners can change, and do. We are not their judge, as you know Jesus is...... You will have a problem.

Muslims believe that on Qiyahman (Judgment Day), Allah (not Jesus) will judge mankind according to their heart and their deeds. You might want to omit this part altogether because Muslims sincerely believe that the mujahid (fighter in jihad fee sybil Allah) who dies instantly becomes a shahid (martyr) and is accepted into Jahnam (paradise). He will have already had his judgment and have proven himself willing to die fighting in the cause of Allah. He is a true Mumeen (Muslim true-believer).

I really like the next sentence: Miracles happen, be a miracle not a murderer. Islam forbids killing an innocent person. Therefore, mujaheeds (according to Islam) do not murder. According to Islam a mujahid is performing a sacred duty by killing (in the cause of Allah) those who murder.

Let me repeat that --- according to Islam, mujaheeds do not murder, on the contrary, they only kill murderers (in the cause of Allah). Mujaheeds must believe that the people they target are not "innocent".

In order for your logic to have verisimilitude for a Muslim, you must convince the mujahid that the intended victims ARE "innocent". And that the killing is NOT for a "just cause".

If you say suicide bombers are not part of God's plan. A Muslim will readily agree with you. A mujahid who straps explosives to his midriff and detonates it in a crowd of infidels is not commiting suicide according to Islam. Suicide is when a person kills himself because he loses his property or someone he loves. That sort of suicide is forbidden in Islam.

According to Islam, it is ABSOLUTELY not suicide to sacrifice one's own life in a jihad to rid the world of "fitnah" (disbelief in Allah.)

Furthermore, you say ["suicide bombers"] are a hurtful and a shameful thing. The Mulim will agree with you that suicide is hurtful and shameful. He will disagree that Islamic militants are "suicide bombers".

He will point out to you that a mujahid who dies in the jihad/qitl fee sybil Allah is ABSOLUTELY not commiting suicide. Furthermore, that it is a sacred duty, an honor and a glory without parallel to become a shahid - one who dies fighting a jihad fee sybil Allah. You will not be able to come to terms on this issue with a Muslim.

Islam does not allow killing an "innocent" person. But what is an "innocent" person? In Islam it is clearly defined:

Qur'ān Surah Al-Mã´edah 5:32
...If someone kills a human being, unless as a penalty for murder, or unless it is to prevent the spread of corruption in the world, it is as if he has killed the entire humanity. (Munir Munshey trans.)

...anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. ... (Khalifa trans.)

... whosoever killed a person - unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land - it shall be as if he killed all mankind... (Sher Ali trans.)

And also
Qur'ān Sura Banî Israel 17:33
And do not kill anyone. Allah has prohibited it, except when it is rightful and befitting (and corresponds to the crime).(Munir Munshey trans.)

And slay not the soul, the slaying of which Allah has forbidden, save for a just cause...(Sher Ali trans.)...

In Islam it is a "just cause" it is "rightful and befitting" to kill Americans because Americans have spread corruption in the world (i.e. promiscuity, immodest dressing, etc.), Americans have "invaded" and "occupied" Afghanistan and Iraq, "committed murder", "horrendous acts", and "created disorder in the land". In Islam killing a person (or people from a country) that has invaded a Muslim territory or who has killed a Muslim is killing for "just cause". QED: Americans are not "innocent" under the Islamic definition. Killing Americans is for a "just cause". Qitl fee sybil Allah (killing in the cause of Allah) is fard ayn (a sacred duty) of ALL MUSLIMS, if I understand correctly.

Muslims have a SACRED DUTY to purge fitnah from the world.

Qur'ān Surah Al-Anfãl 8:39
So fight them (unbelievers) until there is no more fitnah (disbelief or worship of any god but Allah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world) ... And fight with them until there is no more fitnah and religion should be ONLY for Allah.

Islam avers that Allah "does not beget nor was he begotten" and so Christians by worshipping Jesus are commtting blasphemy because worship should be "only for Allah".

Allah commands deeds of terror by the believers against the unbelievers as the means of creating the emotion of terror in their hearts. The only reason needed for action is that "they resisted Allah and His Messenger". Such an approach to "conflict management" is nothing to be ashamed about according to Islamic understanding, but it is a basis for PRIDE. According to Islam, it is one reason for the superiority of Muhammad over all other prophets.

It is EVERY Muslim's SACRED DUTY to fight in the jihad/qitl fee sybil Allah. (struggle/killing in the cause of Allah)

Qur'ān Surah al-Hujurat 49:15
Mumim (true Muslims) believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and without doubt they strive in the cause of Allah (jihad fee Sybil Allah) with their WEALTH and their lives. Those! They are the sincere.

Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward, (Yusuf Ali trans.)

The verb qatala means to fight and kill.
Qur'ān Sura Barã´ah 9:29
Fight against the people of the book, those of them who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, who do not forbid that which Allah and His messenger have forbidden, and who do not follow the religion of truth (Islam). (Fight against them) till they (agree to) pay ‘jazia’ (the submission tribute) and accept an inferior status (with humiliation and submission to the government of Islam.) (Munir Munshey trans.)

Qur'an Sura Al-Nesã´ 4:95
Those of the believers who sit at home, excepting the disabled ones, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their persons, are not equal. Allah has exalted in rank those who strive with their wealth and their persons above those who sit at home. And to each Allah has promised good. And Allah has exalted those who strive above those who sit at home, by a great reward - (Sher Ali translation)

The two are not equal: those who sit at home (and do not join the fighting) _ unless they have a reason; they are handicapped _ and those who strive hard in the path of Allah with their wealth and lives. Over those who sit at home, Allah has excelled and elevated to a higher honor those who strive hard with their wealth and lives. Compared to those who sit at home, Allah will award a far greater reward to those who wage a struggle. (Munir Munshey translation)

When talking with Muslims you must be very knowledgeable about Islam and the Qur'an. You must be very knowledgeable about logic fallacies. Learn to recognize when someone uses a fallacy in his argument. (Like appeal to emotion: Please love me, a sinner.)
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html
http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html
The only way a Muslim can express his love for you is in a romantic way (and it is permissible in Islam to lie to a woman to conqueror her.) Or, if he is a more virtuous man, and he respects you, he will put forth great effort to get you to see the truth and beauty of Islam and shed your state of jahliyah (veil of ignorance).

Remember the mumeen (true Muslim believer) will jihad fee sybil Allah with his WEALTH (jihad bil-mal) and his LIFE (jihad bis-saif --with weapons) but it is also permissible to jihad fee sybil Allah with writing (jihad bil-qalam wa ilm,, lit. "to strive by means of the pen and knowledge).



Muslims are generally willing to listen to the "injil" (gospel) portion of the Bible, that is what Jesus said directly (portions of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), IF you agree to listen to what they have to say about the Qur'an.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat005.html#44

You might want to read the Islamic concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries by Dr. Walid Phares. Taqiyah is done to prevent the new converts from seeing the real face of Islam; at least until their faith or mental conditioning is strong enough to make them turn against their own country and people.

http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm

Answer 2

This should be addressed to terrorists of all gowns instead of Muslims. Islam strictly bans killing any human. The Holly Koran say killing a person is not different than killing all humanity. The life is given by God and can only be taken by him. Further Islam orders individuals to care only for their beliefs. One can not interfere with others beliefs.
However, terrorists use made up Islamic verses. The first step should be telling a terrorist from a Muslim.

Answer 3

Fvck Muslims

Answer 4

Irwin, the great crocodile hunter is gone... live and let die... that was the God's plan. If you live, good... if you die, bad. We humans are not in this God's plan, we destroy God's creation's check and balanced, while we populate the world... God be with Noah!!!

Answer 5

They should learn how to LOVE,to cherish life and family. But, ALAS, they were brainwashed from the time they were nursing(by their Mom's milk). They have tooooo much hatred.

Answer 6

now that is a real war stopper.

Answer 7

YOU SAID IT ALL GOLDEN TRUTH......THERE IS SAVING GRACE THESE PEOPLE HAVE A TWISTED BELIEF......

Answer 8

Oh you convinced them now...