What personal liberties has this " war on terror" caused anyone to lose?

Question

I mean wake up to whats really going on! I can still vote, go to any state I wish, anytime I wish, I can talk on the phone to anyone I wish, I can still go to the church of my choice and worship the way i wish. I can still leave the country any time i wish. If I have the money i can eat wherever I wish and with the right money i can live anywhere in the country i wish. I can still watch what i want on tv, I can still a write a letter to any govt leader I wish without fear of retalitation. (obviously refering to non threatening speech). I also can still own a firearm if i wish so basically what "personal liberties" have been lost? No i think its a little left wing rhetoric trying to prevent the capture of terrorists because it will make them look bad and the republicans good so it will hurt their votes wake up you havent lost any liberties!

Answer 1

None
Only the guilty need worry
I can still travel by plane, car, train, and ship
I can't get calls from terrorist
I can't donate money to terrorist org.
I can't be in a group of terrorist bent on killing American woman and children
I can't get bomb making materials as easy as before 911
I have to hear from anti-US groups like the ACLU and Democrat Party crying about what liberties they might loose as they haven't lost any yet or will loose any.

Answer 2

I agree with all those who say we have lost some rights. As some said, just because you don't NOTICE it doesn't mean you haven't lost it.

The Bush Administration has all the sheep believeing that you're either with him on terrorists - and whatever he thinks needs to be done to fight the terrorists, he will do - or you're with the terrorists. That's an absolutely false choice. How about this choice: we can fight the terrorists in a manner that does not suspend Americans' constitutional rights.

And now that we are halfway to a police state, do you care to guess how long before we're fully a police state (you know, the Nazi Germany kind?) If we elect another George Bush clone, we're in trouble. Fortunately, there doesn't seem to be any Dubya clones waiting in the wings.

Another consideration is a concern that once we've lost those rights, it's going to be terribly difficult getting them back.

Answer 3

You have lost the right to be protected from unreasonable search and seizure.

You have lost the right to private communication --- phone & email.

We have a president who claims judicial oversight, and then bypasses the oversight with 'executive priviledge'.

You have lost all rights if you are even 'suspected' of 'terrorism'. The government can snatch you up and detain you. You have been, in effect "disappeared". There is no notification of family --- or anyone else for that matter. The "Patriot Act" does away with your right to council. No more innocent until proven guilty. You are guilty until you can prove your innocence. You are not likely to be able to prove your innocence if you are 'detained'. Our President has also said that he does not think that the US needs to abide by the Geneva conventions. This means torture is OK. Keep in mind, this is only if you are SUSPECTED of terrorism. In our present environment, you are called a traitor if you oppose this Iraq war --- so much for freedom of speech. Just ask John Murtha. (You probably don't know who that is.) How much of a leap is it from traitor to terrorist?

Basically, what you are saying is that, since you haven't yet been personally affected, it must be left wing rhetoric. You are an idiot.

Let me quote Thomas Jefferson (you know, one of this country's founders). He who gives up a little liberty to buy security deserves neither.

Answer 4

Just because you are not aware of the impact does not mean there has not been an abridgement to your personal rights. Your day to day activities probably are not limited, but they can be monitored by the government. The no fly list - if you share a name every time you try to travel you will be stopped..and you are not provided instructions on how to remove yourself or appeal the process because there is no removal process. You phone calls, library books, purchases can be monitored. Your house can be searched without notice or warning either before or after the fact. You will soon be required to submit to more regulation regarding a national id - one other than a passport - more restrictions and limitations when you travel....it is a terrible precedent that has opened the door and paved the way for further future more noticable suspensions of civil liberties and personal rights. Don't be so arrogant to think that just because you live in a wonderful little bubble with your family and your firearms there are not equally law abiding citizens in this country who are not impacted in deep and drastic ways.

Answer 5

well I lost the civil liberty to get on an airplane with my swiss army knife keychain. Damn man have you ever watched the Mcguyver show, you could probably use that thing to fly the plane in case of an emergency. And what if the plane goes down in a remote area and I need my swiss army knife keychain to save my soul. Brother YOU JUST DONT KNOW HOW AFFECTED I AM

Answer 6

It is NOT just what they have done already - it is the FACT that they have eroded the CONSTITUTION to the point that "King George" now rules by decree.

"I wish to listen in to phone conversations. I promise that I will try to only listen to bad people. But if I do listen to someone innocent, I won't tell anyone what I hear."

There are LAWS IN PLACE that FORBID such action, but George has decided that the law does not apply to any action that he "so decrees" does not apply.

The FISA "law" is itself unconstitutional [searches without warrants BEFORE the search are NOT in the constitution], but at least there is 'some' level of oversight to try to prevent abuse.

I agree with many of the acts that are being carried out [listening to overseas calls to PROBABLE terrorists, and many other things like "data mining"], but I want OVERSIGHT.

There is NOT ONE branch of government, there are THREE; each designed to watch the other two and keep them in check. King George, just like the ruler we rebeled against, has decreed that HIS word is FINAL.

And you think you haven't given up anything???? YOU FOOL !!!

Answer 7

Hmm, good point. We should just wait a little bit longer until it personally affects us. Otherwise it doesn't really matter. But of course, then we won't have the ability to fight them. We will be pretty screwed.

But hey! It's better to be sorry in the name of safety than free with the risk of terrorism! right?

Answer 8

Yes you can vote, but the supreme court can decide the winner, you can travel but gas prices have more than doubled, you can talk on the phone, but it may be illegally tapped for no reason, IF you have money, you can eat or live where you wish, but if you're one of the millions who lost their jobs, you'll struggle to find food and housing...

Answer 9

Many reservists and national guard troops were called away from their families and careers to serve in Iraq. Many active duty troops are required to serve beyond their terms of enlistment. The federal budget deficit is much higher, which has an adverse effect on the economy and results in higher taxes by state and local governments. Of course, you could argue none of the above falls into the category "personal liberties."

Answer 10

Just because I don't use a ladies room dosen't mean there shouldn't be one. Come on be real you lost more than you know. The gas prices are going up to restrict your movements, and that just a start.