A question for Republicans...?

Question

I'm not trying to get you all fired up, I just want to understand the reasoning, ok. Why is it that you would impeach a president for getting a bj from an intern and lying about it, but you see it as ok for a president to lead us into an unwinnable war based on, at best, greatly exaggerated WMD claims? It seems that this war has cost us much more, in lives and money, than a little bj in the oval office. Again, please don't resort to name-calling, I just want to understand the reasoning.

Answer 1

I'm a Republican and I think the reason the country is sooo divided is because it seems, no can just ask a civil question and receive a civil answer ( like we are doing now ).First, I do not believe that Pres. Bush lied to us about W.M.D.'s.He may have had bad information, there may have been gross infighting among the "intelligence" services. Still I don't think he intentionally lied to the American people. I also know many people today who think there was plenty of time to move large caches of weapons into neighboring countries. To be honest , I don't know.I do know many,many millions of people are out from under the heel of that madman Hussein and his sons; and they were dying by the hundreds of thousands. As far as A little [ahem]B.J. under the table, that is one thing we do know, He lied and he allowed it to go to the House of Reps., where he was impeached!It didn't get through the senate (thank God)!! Richard Nixon resigned before doing what Clinton did-go before he let his mess go before the house. The difference is Clinton got caught. The question about Bush will still be out until his term is over or he gets impeached. Hope to talk again sometime. Thom

Answer 2

The problem is that you are making some assumptions that just aren't true.

First, Clinton was impeached for lying to a Grand Jury. This is a federal crime called Perjury, regardless of the subject matter that was lied about.

Second, Bush didn't lie about anything to get us into the war. He never said anything Clinton, a ton of Democrats, and the ENTIRE international community had not said themselves.

Third, if he had lied, which he did not, it would not have been under oath to a Grand Jury. Lying to the public would be immoral and dispicable, but not illegal.

Fourth, the war is not "unwinnable". The war for Iraq is already won. The old regime is dead or on trial, and the Iraqis have had free elections to create their own constitution and government. The "war on terror" is ongoing, but it is not "unwinnable" either. It will just take many years, which Bush explained to the American public after 9/11 when he said it could take 10 to 20 years.

You can form better opinions if you base your assumptions on facts instead of the junk you get from the media and internet. The truth really will set you free, but only if you are open-minded enough to seek it out and accept it when you find it.

Answer 3

Here is what is wrong with the situation. Let's assume President Bush exaggerated WMD claims. He is all over TV, telling everyone they better get behind him in Iraq or start stocking up on gas masks for the inevitible onslaught of nerve gas. Clinton gets a bj from his intern, and thats worse? Republicans like me aren't so upset at the fact that he did get a bj in the oval office as that he lied about it. The difference between him outright lying and Bush exaggerating or worse, is that President Clinton was under oath and was being deposed. Whatever the issues of morality, legally speaking, Clinton committed a high crime and misdemeanor by perjuring himself to the grand jury. Bush may have misled, which I don't think he did, but he never actually committed any crime whatsoever. That's why.

Answer 4

1: Not for getting the BJ, lying in a court of law... that's perjury, a crime.
2: Only the Dems. seem to hope that the war is unwinable.
3: The whole world, UN, British, French, etc believed that he had WMDs. They were probably shipped to Syria, but that's not the point. He supported terrorist, and terrorism... good enough for me.
4: If Clinton had been doing his job, instead of screwing around, 9/11 may not have happened in the first place.

Answer 5

What President Clinton did was not just a little thing. Prez Clinton lied under oath. That is called perjury. That is illegall. That is punishable by jail time. President Bush was led by questionable intelligence into a war. However, his reasons for starting the war are still valid. Saddam Hussein may not have had WMDs but he wanted them and he was actively seeking them. If we hadn't removed him from power now, we would have been force to do it when he started nuking and gassing his neighbors. One question for you... At the beginning of the war, about 90% of the Democtratic party was agreeing with President Bush when he decided to invade Iraq. Now, when the going is getting tough, how many are still supporting it????

Answer 6

Clinton was impeached for perjury to a federal grand jury in a sexual harassment case.

WMD's have been found in Iraq. Several ton of Mustard gas was found, in addition intel indicates much of Hussein's biological, and chemical weapons stockpiles were moved to Syria in 2003 prior to the invasion.

Winning a war requires people being supportive of the missions. I fear because of terror we are looking at the US in 1938. We wanted to stay out of world problems. The fact is we live in an interdependent world. The US gets about 2/3s of it's transportation energy requirements from politically unstable regions. It is more politically expedient to buy from foreign sources then to deal with the liberal environmentalists that are as intent on destroying the economic prosperity of our country.

This is something of real concern and is a domestic security problem that if not addressed will place us at severe economic risk.

it is better we are fighting the battles "over there" then in the streets of the US. I feel that our biggest battleground is on the propaganda side. We have willingly complicit leftist media outlets in the US acting as the media outlets for AlQuada and Hezbollah, We need to counter the propaganda with truth.

The truth is we are winning the war in Iraq, pockets of people in iraq that want to spread hate and discontent exist, but for the most part schools, and infrastructure are rebuilding on schedule and are better then before Saddam was even in power. We don't here that stuff.

Bush did not lie about WMD's.. Bush has been a lightning rod for the hate fermenting on the political left.. We have the peace at any cost crowd that will not be happy until we exit Iraq. These same people are supportive of other efforts the US has made around the world, We are still in Kosovo courtesy of Slick Willy, But no one says boo about that. And for all intent and purpose the actions in Iraq was to reduce the threat of a tyrant on the world stage.

The largest group of tyrants have seats at the UN, and it's my belief the US should withdraw from the UN and boot the UN out of the US for this fact.

Answer 7

1) The war in Iraq is already Won. The people are liberated and the evil dictator has been captured.

2) WMD's were found. 500 shells. It only takes 15 shells to kill 5000 Kurds. Regardless if they were degraded, if they fell into the hands of the terrorist, you can bet they'll use them.

3) If GW Bush lied, then every politician to include Bill Clinton, John Kerry, etc. were also lying. Because these people agreed that Saddam had WMD's.

4) Bill Clinton lied under oath. This is a crime. BTW, it was the Republicans that acquited Bill Clinton.

President Bush needs and deserves our support during these troubled times. I believe he's doing an outstanding job. The economy is still good despite terrrorist attacks and hurricanes during his term.

Answer 8

Perjury is a felony. A felony is an impeachable offense.

The other arguments you used agsint the war/Bush are SUBJECTIVE. You cannot say a war is unwinnable. You cannot say the WoMD claims were false or exaggerated, especially when you go past the liberal hype to realize components of WoMD were found. And if you want the links to pove that, I will gladly supply them AGAIN.

And do not forget thatthe war is the continuation of the first Gulf War. It is not a new war based on WoMD claims. Saddam and Iraq violated the terms of the cease fire, this justifying the continuation of hostilities. Something Bush Sr. and/or Clinton should have done LONG ago.

Answer 9

1. We didn't want to impeach the president about the BJ. We wanted to impeach the president for lying under oath. If he'd have been honest about the bj, I'd have had no problem with it.

2. Hussein was a psychopath with a proven willingness to use WMD's and a grudge agains the US, and had the full resources of a wealthy country at his disposal. That makes him a threat to our security. He is no longer that threath, and THAT is why we went there. I have no defense for us still being there, because we don't owe Iraq a rebuilding.

Answer 10

Well lets see, Clinton was impeached because he lied--not because he was horny. CLINTON continually diverted our attention away from his atrocities by sending our troops overseas 44 times in eight years (we had deployed troops only 8 times in the previous 45 years) and why the heck would any president send our troops to the Balkans? Smoke and mirrors! The $15 billion he spent sending our troops to Croatia..(supposedly his itelligence was faulty here as well-but it's okay for a dem pres to receive faulty intel and a felony when a rep gets it????)....and lets not forget helping import "mujahedin" from the middle east (Clinton's chief peace negotiator even called this a pact with the devil!). He bombed Serbia without Congressional consent....he bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan to divert attention away from his scandals.......

I don't think Bush is our greatest president, but I do believe he is doing what he thinks will protect and defend his country. I believe GW loves this country while Clinton loved himself........