I cant for the life of me understand why Newcastle United fans see their club as a "big" side.
They are a good team, but they are a mid-table team at best. Unless they get a billionaire as their chairman, they AWAYS will be just a mediocre club as well.
Just becuase the team is in a large city & in one of the major cities of the North, it doesn't mean they should automatically have a "big" club. The mentality itself is just ridiculous.
They haven't won anything in over 30 years now, their stadium isn't even UEFA rated, and they aren't even part of the G14.
It makes me laugh when the NUFC fans start whingeing like idiots when their club loses to other mediocre sides like Aston Villa with an unjustified arrogance, which for some strange reason makes them "assume" they should be wiping the floor with such "lesser" opposition, even though they have a completely unconvincing club history record..
It's why i don't like NUFC - the deluded arrogance.
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2006-08-27 05:32:17 · 26 answers · asked by bobby t 3 in Sports ➔ Football ➔ English Football
Where were you when Newcastle was leading 15 points atop the EPL?
Where were you when Newcastle United ripped Manchester United apart 5 - 0?
Before Abrahimovich bought over Chelsea, which clubs do you think was considered as the big-four in the EPL?
You act like someone who just started watching English football, and sound like you're trying to talk like a pundit after doing a little surfing on the web.
I feel sorry for you.
You should go watch golf or something. I think you'll enjoy it, because you don't see the difference.
You'll probably say 'the ball is round anyway'.
2006-08-29 01:24:19 · answer #1 · answered by Saffren 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Do you play video games? I hope so. Let me ask you something. Do you think that EA SPORTS would include St James Park as one of the few real stadiums in its FIFA franchise line of games if it didn't think that the club that played there was a big one? I didn't think so.
I'm a Newcastle fan from the US (San Francisco), and though I may sound bias, I truly believe Newcastle to be one of the largest clubs in England.
Past records don't make the size of the club. That would, instead, make a "successful club." I'm going to be literal and say that obviously a club is a group of people with a common interest. Therefore Newcastle is a big club, because of the support that they receive.
In Aston Villa's home win over Newcastle on Sunday 8/27, a day when new billionaire Randy Lerner was at his first game in attendance, and skipper Gareth Barry signed a new contract, only 35141 out of 42582 seats were taken to show their support... and even Villa's considered a somwhat larger club. Little do people know is that Newcastle fans occupied more than the normal away section that game, showing what massive support they even get at away fixtures, and therefore even lower Villa support.
Even with no silverware in the recent and distant past, the toon faithful are just that - faithful - no matter what. St James Park is always filled to capacity on game day, with the lack of a sell out crowd due in part to the lack of away tickets sold. (I guess not many want to make the trek to the northeast)
Remember, Newcastle has spent a MASSIVE amount of money (even if they were bad buys) on players, and this is coming from a publicly owned club rather than by a private billionaire. So, when Newcastle does lose, it's expected for us to be disappointed, as naturally we expect better from such a club with which people pour their hearts and wallets into.
St James Park is not UEFA rated because it was an upgraded venue. By that I mean the stadium does not meet all the required critera because it was expanded on limited land and therefore could not accomodate all the requirements needed to become a 4-star venue. That is also why the stadium is so lopsided. Believe it or not cars actually drive under the larger touchline stand(Milburn stand), because building over the road was the only option for expansion. Obviously, Newcastle wouldn't expand the park if they didn't feel like they could fill it.
That is my answer, and I apologize if some of my information isn't correct as I've never been actually been to a premiership match (only Ligue 1 & WC06).
Howay the lads!
2006-08-29 01:37:38 · answer #2 · answered by dbrdare 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I am not a Newcastle fan but if they are not a big club then who are. They are probably one of the best supported teams in the League no matter what their results are. They have been under performing for a number of years and what that club needs is some stability and patience from their fans ( although most will say we have been patient for years). The whole place has a great vibe to it and the Geordies are amongst the most loyal in the Land. Villa are also a big club with lots of potential and the players have a lot to prove to the new Manager so for the moment they should not be taken too lightly.
2006-08-27 08:15:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Let me dissect your question and attempt to answer it.
G14, well Newcastle are knocking on the door, but you can't use this as a criteria. It is like some secretive mens club that excludes everyone else.
St James' Park not meeting UEFA standards. Well the Stadio Del Alpi, Stamford Bridge, Estadio Du Dragao also do not meet this standard but you can't say Juventus, Chelsea and Porto are 'small' clubs. Each country has its' own set of stadia to be used for internationals, major finals etc. The reason St James Park is not used is because Old Trafford, Anfield, Villa Park and the Stadium of Light are the earmarked ones in England.
As for big cities, it is natural to assume that if you have a club in a big city that averages 50,000 fans every week, it should be considered a big club. Let's not forget that Man United, Leeds United and even Chelsea, also had barren spells, but they were regarded as big clubs nonetheless, mainly because of gate size.
Success isn't just a measure. Tradition, history and gate size also defines a big club. In that sense, Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton are also big clubs. Not the biggest, like Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, but big.
You can compare Newcastle to Valencia in Spain and either Roma or Lazio in Italy. But they have failed to garner a minimum standard of silverware for their size. But they have shown, in the mid 90s, that the difference between succes and failure is a very thin line.
But you're right when you mention a certain arrogance they possess, when facing the likes of Villa, Fulham and Bolton in the league. What you possess on paper does not equate to success on the pitch. As passionate as their fans maybe, their players have not displayed the same passion and commitment in team colours.
Some managerial mistakes, misguided buys by Freddie Sheppard and an over reliance on Shearer, have all combined, together with player ineptitude, to hinder Newcastle.
The table never lies, Newcastle cannot claim to deserve something when they don't perform, but they are big club, who should do better.
2006-08-27 06:01:17 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I am not a Newcastle United fan. However - what is a 'big' club? Chelsea are the champions - are they a 'bigger' club than Manchester Utd?? Are Real Madrid a big club - they havn't been winning things for a while?
There is more to being a big club than simply winning. Fan base, support, loyalty, history........
Getting a multimillionaire owner and winning a few things does not make Chelsea bigger than Newcastle for example. If Chelsea's owner left them in the S&^% or they fail to win for a couple of years their support would dwindle quickly, whereas Newcastle may not have won anything for years but the fans will always be there - because they are a big club.
Newcastle do not have deluded arrogance unlike a team like Chelsea. The G14 is realted to Money pure and simple, not about history. Would a team like Flamengo, Boca Juniors, Santos be in the G14? No, but big clubs. You obviously have a problem with Newcastle.
Myself, I support Oxford, not a big club, but we have loyal support.
2006-08-27 10:27:33 · answer #5 · answered by Hobsch 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
They're regarded a big club firstly for there attendances and secondly because the press want them to be! Sunderland have won a trophy since they last did, Boro have made 5 cup finals (including a UEFA) and won one in the last ten years, but Newcastle are still given the press space in the north east and nationally! If Boro or Sunderland win something and a Newcastle player gets a speeding ticket that's all the press will report on, that's why the rest of the world See's them as a bigger club than they are, Press power
2006-08-27 09:41:52 · answer #6 · answered by Jamie S 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I dont know mate.. Newcastle go out every year and buy at least one big signing to keep the fans happy. This season we had Damien Duff making the biggest mistake of his life by joining them and also 21 year old or is that 28 year old Obefemi Martins joining them, who subsequently got himself injured today in his first appearance.
They are a mid table club with a massive and loyal fan base and lets admit it, a very nice stadium but they have nothing to offer as far as title or even cup ambitions are concerned. They are not going to get far as you said without a billionaire taking over. No way are Newcastle going to challenge the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, United, Arsenal or even teams like Spurs or Everton.
One trophy in your trophy room is not a real great showing for all these years is it.
And by losing to Villa today it just goes to show they will never add to that amount. Oh well who cares really. NOT ME...
2006-08-27 05:54:03 · answer #7 · answered by Deadman81 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Man Utd is a premier league side that relies on stability and experience to succeed. They tend to buy young players from the premier league to avoid having to aquent them and adjust to English football Chelsea is a team of galacticos that are brought together in an attempt to create and stabilize a title winning team with an owner that has more money than sense. Man City are Chelsea x10 So... in a nutshell....Man city or Chelsea
2016-03-26 21:53:29 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well maybe its becuse newcastle IS one of the best clubs we would be much better if graeme souness didnt f**k up our club and sell our best players maybe we would be higher anyway no matter what you think mr assface newcastle are a great team. and one of the richest that why we have a huge stadium. but i have to agree with your points about us being mid table but were in europe what you gonna do. by the way heres a quistion for you do you know any newcastle supporters???
2006-08-27 05:40:11 · answer #9 · answered by Hitcher In The Picture 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you go on fan base, Newcastle are massive there average gate last season was 52,032, the ground holds 52,218 so they are as good as full every home game,
If you go on honours won, you could say Notts Forest are a bigger club than chelsea
2006-08-27 07:53:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋