Why do some people think that all it takes to be a good Christian is to be heterosexual or lesbian, ...?

Question

...and that's it?

If you're a gay person, then, it's assumed that the gay person is automatically going to Hell. We're already in hell actually. Too many turds floating around. What about all the other sins and abominations in the Bible that some people tend to forget? Does only heterosexuality actually lead a person into Heaven?

Answer 1

try postin this in the religous section and see what rants ya get!

Answer 2

Because they are silly and have turned a book into an idol - that's why.

While we have none of the autographs of the Bible, the early manuscripts we do have have and that are known to be genuine, by the most conservative estimates, have 200,000 differences between the wording in them, and while many are not meaningful, some completely change the doctrine of the church. (Ehrman, Bart, Ph.D.; Misquoting Jesus: The story behind who changed the Bible and Why; Harper Collins, 2006 -- p. 89). less conservative estimates range up to about 400,000 -- and there are programmers now endeavoring to write a program that will be able to count the exact number of variances.

And that's only the start of the difficulties for the Bible. If you only use the Textus Receptus (Received Text) as it is printed in modern Bibles then you are looking at enormous problems anyway -- in fact insurmountable ones. The World does not have corners (Isaiah 11:12), nor does it sit on pillars (I Samuel 2:8), nor water (Psalms 24:1-2). God did not establish a solid dome over the earth (that's what firmament literally means) and he does not have a palace on top of it from which angels can come and go up Jacob's ladder -- which might be reached by the tower of babel -- and where he keeps "treasuries" of hail and snow (Job 38: 22-23). For the sake of all that is decent, you can't even harmonize the 1st and 2nd chapters of Genesis with each other, say nothing of being able to defend the Biblical creation as scientifically factual. That's no surprise though, as the Bible tells us that beetles have four legs (Leviticus 11: 21-23) and that rabbits chew their cuds (Deuteronomy 14:7). It says that pi is 3, not 3.14 (I Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2) and that the mustard seed is the smallest seed in the world and grows into a tree [neither of which are true] (Matthew 13: 31-32). It is hardly a font of rational thought or scientific accuracy. Furthermore these errors only scratch the surface. Try harmonizing accounts in Joshua and the telling of the same tales in timeline in Judges sometime. If you can you are more proficient than any theologian I've ever met, and I've met a few.

Late bronze age men created the OT and early iron age ones the NT. It is not surprising therefore that God cannot lead Israel to defeat Iron chariots after promising he would (Judges 1:19), and it is not surprising that the flight of Israel from the god Chemosh, after the king of a city the Jews were beseiging and that God had promised them they would overthrow The King of the city offered his own son to Chemosh as a human sacrifice, resulting in Chemosh driving the Israelites away (2 Kings 3: 19-27) -- further it is not surprising that no punishment is mentioned -- the Israelites were still sacrificing their own children, as is evidenced in several places, but most graphically in Judges 11:30-39

The long and short of it is, the Bible is a mythic book, written by bronze and iron age men who were recording primarily oral legends in written form. In any realistic sense it is drivel. You can see, just in the passages I noted above from 2 Kings -- the last vestiges of polytheism fading away. Chemosh was supposed to get power from human sacrifice, just as Jehovah did -- and that power allowed him to turn the table against Israel, despite the fact that God was with Israel.

And if you want a chuckle, read the second, and theoretically final version of the ten commandments. They are in Exodus 34: 10-26. That is the covenant Yahweh actually made with Israel. No seething here.

The Bible is not the verbally inspired Word of God -- one only needs to read it throughly to prove that beyond question. The thousands of errors, the incorrect history, the inconsistency, the failed prophecy. It's just a mythic book.

And likewise, biblio-idolatry is not Christianity, no matter how popular it becomes.

Have a nice day.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org
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Answer 3

I cannot answer that...the problem is, I don't know anyone who I consider a good Christian. The ones I know all want to make more money over the backs of poor people, want to condemn everyone about them who believe differently than they do, wants to judge everyone and call them sinners, or have a personal relationship with god (I love that one). I find this religion to be stuffed to the gills with what I consider sinful people. They spend all day Sunday praying their hearts out...and I can only assume it is to ask forgiveness for all the asshole things they did all week. Sick bunch, on the whole. But, in fairness, what fanatics are'nt sick?

Answer 4

fieldscharlie,
A Christian is a Christian because he/she puts their trust in Jesus Christ. All that other $#it is $#it. They believe that the Bible is the word of God, and that we are all condemned by our nature, not necessarily our actions, and that we are covered by the sacrifice that Jesus provided.

Those that tell you about your sins are not doing what they are supposed to be doing. They are like the Pharisees of the Bible that Jesus had a hard time with. They think that they are okay. And they prove tht, no matter what they say, if they preach to you the message of you sinning.

I've answered your question on the other part of this board, I hope that it got through to you because it's important.

Jesus is the friend of sinners. Those that think they are perfect, are not his friends.

Answer 5

Ha. You're obviously not a lesbian. Those "Christian" extremists rant on not Anna and Eve just as much as that stupid not Adam and Steve. Anyone who "applies" the Bible literally to life is picking and choosing passages to support their own beliefs and/or prejudices. They are missing the main point -- peace and tolerance -- and are just too ignorant to realize it. Sad, really. Fortunately, most Christians aren't that way.

Answer 6

Anybody that wishes to go to church should try to stop sinning. I am not going to go to church and bend or ignore some rules to fit my lifestyle.I would bet 80% of the bible thumpers that post here dont go to church. Most Christians I know dont agree with homosexuality , but the only time you will hear them talk about it is if you ask them.

Answer 7

Your question answers itself.

Of course most of the people who come in here professing to be Christian and using the Bible to condem homosexuality are frauds. You know that and so do I.

Answer 8

Don't let horrible people who think like that give you any grief, I know lots of Christian people and saw them on the internet who think the totally opposite way and are upset with people like that too.

Answer 9

im a bad a$$ christian from around the block
im a lesbian
i dont do no c**k

Answer 10

That's off the wall and anybody who actually believes it is off the wall.