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I know how to do it with caluculus. I just want to know how to do it with algebra as in no derivativation, integration, or limits...

2006-08-26 16:56:00 · 5 answers · asked by venomfx 4 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

The reason for me asking this is because an individual in a lower class recieved the same assignment as I did and he doesn't have the calculus knowledge. If he used Calculus it would seem as if he either copied from a upper level classmate which can be considered cheating or be advided to move up a level if he does indeed have a prior knowledge of Calculus. I'm currently trying to derive the formula myself, I'm just asking since I'm rather busy at the moment.

2006-08-26 18:55:35 · update #1

Oh and by the way, this individual doesn't have a calculator so the graphing method isn't vaid considering the value is rational only in the sense that it can be expressed in terms of a/b. The answer I would suppose could only be obtained algebraicly.

2006-08-26 18:58:48 · update #2

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make a table of values, this is the most precise way when you don't have a graphing calculator and you suck at graphing.

2006-08-26 18:59:30 · answer #1 · answered by damolbert 1 · 0 0

I don't entirely understand this question. I understand it, but I don't know why it would be asked, given that this seems to be a fairly reasonable and straightforward answer to someone that knows calculus.

1. Get someone to differentiate the equation
Ax^3 + Bx^2 + Cx + D
with respect to x (call this formula 1). differentiate again (call this formula 2)
2. Use quadradic formula on formula 1 by setting it to zero.
3. use formula 2 to see which (if any) answer is a relative max by conducting sign test

This requites no calculus except for Step 1. Once you've got the equations and apply the formulas you could make it so easy a 6th grader should be able to do it. (that is, assuming they could apply formulas).

If you're asking how one could derive something without calculus, I must admit I'm rather stumped, although I wouldn't be suprised if the knowledge of how to get the relative maxima of a cubic was derived before there was any understanding of calculus.

2006-08-26 17:59:00 · answer #2 · answered by Jay 3 · 0 0

you can plot it on a graph and visually identify the inflection points

if things like that could be done in a straightforward way without calculus, it wouldn't have been necessary to invent calculus

2006-08-26 17:03:04 · answer #3 · answered by enginerd 6 · 1 0

yup i agree.. a graph is one of the best choices available if derivatives are not used.

2006-08-26 17:46:07 · answer #4 · answered by whitehairydemon 2 · 0 0

Graph it.

2006-08-26 17:01:56 · answer #5 · answered by The_Dude 2 · 0 0

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