How could you not call this child molestation...please read?

Question

NEW YORK -- City health officials are investigating the death of a baby boy who was one of three infants to contract herpes after a rabbi circumcised them.
Ten days after Rabbi Yitzhok Fischer performed religious circumcisions on twins last October, one died of herpes and the other tested positive for the virus, according to complaint filed by the health department in Manhattan Supreme Court.
The complaint, reported in Wednesday's edition of the New York Daily News, also said health officials later found a third baby who had contracted herpes after being circumcised by Fischer in late 2003.
Under Jewish law, a mohel - someone who performs circumcisions - draws blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand, but Fischer uses a rare practice where he uses his mouth.
Fischer's lawyer, Mark Kurzmann, told the Daily News that Fischer was cooperating with the investigation, although it's unclear whether Fischer submitted to the city's request for a blood test.

Answer 1

This is completely true- read the links- and the practice of any circumcision on an unconsenting person (read:minor) is disgusting. No matter how its done, it is ALWAYS painful. I caught nurses discussing why they must lie to parents about "baby sleeping throught it" to a tearful mom. They were saying "It's not going to do her any good to know the truth." That was when they saw me and shut up. What about baby? The whole mohel issue aside, it is barbaric. Believe me, being a woman, I appeciate women's rights, but even the men in our American society are feminist. I have talked to alot of men who think its necessary for women's preference. Completely UNTRUE. And the women that claim they don't like intact men often have never even been with an intact man. This practice is not, most cases, being done in America for religious belief. It was started because Doctors 100 years ago started telling moms babies would associate the masturbation that DOCTORS performed (and still do because its easier to cut them like that) with agonizing pain, and would therefore not touch themselves. My grandmother was actually told boys have improved balance and won't wet the bed in addition to keeping his hands off himself. Prudish moms fell hook, line and sinker. Many never saw their intact sons. They woke up from the drugs and were brought a cut Junior and never signed a consent form. I find it hard to look in my son's eyes and tell him " I don't love all of you. You are NOT perfect." How can a loving parent do such a thing? But they are frightened into it everyday by the billion dollar industry. I know how it works, I fell for it with my first son. And when the doctor who told me I must cut my son later told me the damage would hopefully correct without future surgery, I wanted to punch him in the gut. The same amputation that was suposed to help, hurt, and hurt badly. In fact, ALL circs leave a scar, skin tags, and risk of infection. My kids got MRSA in the hospital. Its on a rampage, I assure you. The lab doctor I spoke with said anyone deliberately causing such a large open wound on his/her child was asking for their child to get a serious infection, even die. People think its cleaner in the hospital. Think again. Please! The definition of "molest" is "to subject to unwanted sexual activity." When a doctor circumcises, when a parent says its okay, a child's sensitive 20,000 nerve endings are lost. READ THE LINKS!!! The penis is often masturbated, the the fused foreskin is forcibly probed, ripped, crushed, and sliced away. There is no such thing as a "little snip." A very pleasureable SEXUAL organ is removed from a little boy without his consent.

If that's not molestation, I don't know what is.

Answer 2

That's disgusting!

Manslaughter charges at the least. I'd say the DA would have a great child molestation case. The act of drawing the blood with his mouth reguardless of intent should suffice as a sexual act. Any American should know better than that. Was this wierdo born in the US?

That an infant died as a result of his bizarre practice and gross negligence makes it far worse. To compound it, the suriving children will now have to grow up knowing what happened and will be doomed to a life in the Herpes crowd without even having the chance to avoid it. The mental trip that will cause on the kids is going to be a heavy one. Personally I think the judge should accidentally turn off all the cameras in a side room and of course accidentally arrange for the father(s) of these children to be in the same room with this Rabbi and nobody else. A nice sound proof room.

Answer 3

I think it might be more accurately described as child abuse. Circumcision is an old fashioned and ridiculous practice. Of course their are the religious nuts who insist upon it and compared to the mental disturbances caused by religion itself circumcision seems almost minor. Molestation is more apt if the oral bit gave the old guy pleasure. I suppose we can't be sure it didn't. He did have herpes and now the surviving child has genital herpes. If he knew he had that and understood the risk of passing it on then he is a very bad man and should be made to use some other method for the brutal part where he spills blood. Frankly.... the entire story is tragic from every angle.
But no, it is not molestation. Abuse and manslaughter - yes.

Answer 4

That is Definitely child molestation even though those are the parents belief some things are just not right like that and add the fact the he gave the poor child an std and died from it

Answer 5

I agree this is "child molestation or endangerment" with all the medical news and news in general about the "inhumane torture of children" being put in cages, starving them, leaving them in hot cars with no air to breath, beatings, mental abuse etc. this world is not going forward it's going backwards in the treatment of the young and old. About your question: Yes it's ABUSE...and the Mohels should be UP TO DATE...on their practices if they are doing something according to the old written words of their holy book then it's time for them to be changed to protect the new born males in their congregation. If the Mohels are educated they need to go back to school for more accreditation and update their practices for everyone safety. It's a shame that these babies have to suffer from the "hands" or "mouths" of someone who is following old practices. God bless the children!

Answer 6

THat is definatley child molestation, that is a disgusting practise, using his mouth. He was using his mouth to give himself pleasure.

Answer 7

why don't just take these kids to a hospital,to have these circumcision done,,appropriately?in certain Muslim cultures,a child wont circumcise,not until they are in grade 1 above,

Answer 8

That is bizarre if it is true.

Answer 9

omg!