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2006-08-25 15:30:57 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Science & Mathematics Astronomy & Space

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No there is one less than there was a couple of days ago. Pluto hasn't gone anywhere, it just got reclassified as a dwarf planet along with Ceres Charon, Xena and a dozen others, mostly Trans-Neptunian Objects like Charon and Xena, but three of them are, like Ceres, asteroids lying between Mars and Jupiter.

There is understandable dismay at Pluto being demoted in status but people need to understand the reasons the IAU had to grapple with definitions and categories at this time,:

(1) in 1930 we knew of just one body lying beyond the orbit of Neptune. Now we know of more than 1000

(2) we are discovering asteroids at a rate of 5000 a month

(3) we now know of 200+ extra-solar planets orbiting 170+ other stars, some of which we now know to have asteroid belts

It is conceivable the IAU may create more categories in the future in the light of more discoveries, The moment we find an extra-Solar System planet with extra-terrestrial life on it, for example, I would expect Habitable Zone Planet to be a new category and only Earth and Mars to be in it.

We already have the distinction between terrestrial planet (the inner 4 planets) and gas giant (the outer 4 planets) and are assessing new extra-Solar-System planets in the light of that distinction and a new category name for the informally-named "hot Jupiters" (i.e. large planets orbiting near to their star at less than 1 AU distance) of which we know several, may not be far away,

As science expands its knowledge, it needs more concepts and categories with which to describe that knowledge, That is perfectly normal and should neither surprise nor alarm us,

Creating new categories and reclassifying known objects in the light of them has happened before: in the 19th Century when the number of planets was pruned from 11 to 7 out of concern that being consistent and admitting other, newly discovered bodies to the planetary club that were similar to the ones they chose to kick out instead would have meant the number of planets could rapidly start to escalate and mushroom out of control,

To understand what is going on now, it helps to understand what went on then,

The number of bodies in the Solar System known to astronomers has been burgeoning for a long time now, but the general public seems unaware of this, given the way people blithely talk of Ceres (discovered 1801) Charon (discovered 1978) and Xena (discovered 2003) having "just been discovered", And given how one Yahoo answerer recently confidently asserted that Ceres, Charon and Xena were all "newly formed"!

(I wish people wouldn't make up astronomical theory on the hoof like that! The gullible will only go and repeat such Malapropisms as gospel truth!) (Gossip-tell truth would be a more apt description,)

There was a similar definitions crisis in the early 19th century and again in the mid-19th Century as the number of known objects in the Solar System started to grow and grow,

By 1807 the 8 Solar System bodies known to classical astronomy (the Sun, the Earth, our Moon and the 5 classical planets known from antiquity, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn) (1 star, 6 planets, 1 moon) had grown to 26. Uranus was found in 1781 making 7 planets. There were 4 Jovian moons, 7 Saturnine moons and 2 Uranian moons, 14 in all

And then there was the discovery of the first four asteroids. These were 1 Ceres on January 1, 1801, 2 Pallas on March 28, 1802, 3 Juno on September 1, 1804, and 4 Vesta on March 29, 1807,

What were astronomers to call these new objects? They weren't moons as they rotated around the Sun, so they had to be planets, didn't they? As there was, initially, no other category but moons or planets to put them in.

After 2 Pallas was discovered though, Sir William Herschel (the discoverer of Uranus) coined the term "asteroid" meaning "star-like"), in 1802.

But Ceres was meantime assigned a planetary symbol, and remained listed as a planet in astronomy books and tables (along with 2 Pallas, 3 Juno and 4 Vesta) for about half a century until further asteroids were discovered.

So we now had 1 star, 11 planets and 14 Moons, the beginnings of a distinction between major and minor planets and a sense of unease as to what we would do if more asteroids were discovered as the first four were all disappointingly small in size, so did they really belong in the planetary club? (Similar doubts were expressed about Pluto, right from the outset in 1930,)

38 years pass and then in 1845 the asteroid 5 Astraea is discovered and on September 23, 1846 the planet Neptune and a mere 17 days later on October 10, 1846, Neptune's moon, Triton. (We now have 1 star, 12 Planets 15 Moons and 1 non-planetary Asteroid.)

The pace of discovery then starts to really hot up. Four more asteroids in nine months: 6 Hebe on July 1, 1847, 7 Iris on August 13, 1847, 8 Flora on October 18, 1847, and 9 Metis April 25, 1848

Then on September 16, 1848 an 8th moon of Saturn called Hyperion is discovered,

Plus a further 6 asteroids are found in just over two years: 10 Hygiea on April 12, 1849, 11 Parthenope on May 11, 1850, 12 Victoria on September 13, 1850, 13 Egeria on November 2, 1850, 14 Irene on May 19, 1851 and 15 Eunomia on July 29, 1851.

And on October 24, 1851 a 3rd and a 4th moon of Uranus: called Ariel and Umbriel were discovered.

So now we had 42 objects: 1 star 12 planets 18 moons and 11 asteroids. If the latest asteroids were all to be regarded as planets, making a total of 23 planets (and 10 Hygiea was bigger than 3 Juno, just like Xena is bigger than Pluto), it was likely to start getting silly (by 1868 the number of asteroids was to rise to 107 and Victorian schoolchildren would have needed a massive 115-word mnemonic to remember all the names).

The unease grew to a crisis, a redefinition was clearly necessary and an inevitable decision was taken to regard all 15 asteroids as a separate category from planets and Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta were kicked out of the planetary club, just like Pluto has been kicked out now.

There are some clear parallels between the situation in the 1850s and the situation now, Four under-sized runts had obtained planetary status, with seemingly more to follow as they were discovered, creating an overwhelming feeling among astronomers that the currency would be devalued if all these further objects were to then be automatically awarded planetary status. So they cried Whoa! And called a halt. And created a new category, Just like the IAU has now done,

SO HOW MANY OBJECTS HAVE WE GOT IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM NOW?

Stars: 1

Planets: 8

Moons: over 80 known moons of the dwarf planets, asteroids and other small solar system bodies.

(The asteroid 87 Sylvia has 2 moons for example as does the Kuiper Belt Object KBO 2003 EL61.)

AND another 162 moons orbiting around planets: Mercury has none, Venus has none, Earth has 1, Mars has 2, Jupiter has 63, Saturn has 56, Uranus has 27, Neptune has 13.

Kuiper Belt Objects: over 800 (all discovered since 1992).

Trans-Neptunian Objects: over 1000 (includes the 800+ KBOs) i,e, there are 200+ in the Scattered Disk and the Oort Cloud.

Asteroids: Hundreds of thousands of asteroids have been discovered within the solar system and the present rate of discovery is about 5000 per month. As of July 23, 2006, from a total of 338,186 registered minor planets, 134,339 have orbits known well enough to be given permanent official numbers. Of these, 13,242 have official names.

Current estimates put the total number of asteroids above 1 km in diameter in the solar system to be between 1.1 and 1.9 million

So you can see

(a) why some definitions are needed and why reclassification is necessary

(b) how totally unaware of the state of scientific knowledge the general public is and how uninformed people are when they get excited at tales of "3 new planets being discovered" and wonder if there might perhaps be more where those came from,

Finally, these issues need to be seen in the context of the 205 extra-solar planets we now know to exist and the asteroid belts that have now been detected in some of those stellar systems,

Consistency being a desirable thing to achieve in science, whatever definitions and categories the IAU now adopt, they need to be applicable to every star with other objects in orbit around it, throughout the entire universe, That is the context in which Pluto's status is now being discussed,

2006-08-25 20:06:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7 0

According to the Scientific Community there is actually one less "planet" because Pluto has been droopedfrom the list and is now a Dwarf Planet, along with Sedna and Xena.

2006-08-25 15:33:37 · answer #2 · answered by Sniper 4 · 0 0

yes. Planet X

2006-08-25 15:32:49 · answer #3 · answered by K-Low 2 · 0 0

A planet is defined as something that orbits a star. Since in the solar system itself there are nine bodies (including pluto) that orbits the sun, there are nine planets in the solar system.

Well, I wonder, are you actually asking,"Is there another planet out there that supports life?"

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2006-08-25 15:40:00 · answer #4 · answered by Veefessional 2 · 0 1

not in this one, that's for sensible. it is going to take centuries to get there with the factors we've. Even shifting on the point of the speed of light, it takes a lengthy time period to holiday from one device to the subsequent. My wager is a minimum of three hundred years a minimum of, except we be certain out something fairly rattling badass, or pull an Ender's sport (both actual one in all that are unimaginably unlikely.) even if it ought to favor to actual be plenty, plenty added indoors the destiny. Now, a actual, self helping and actively earnings providing colony on the moon or Mars is conceivable in per danger by using means of the proper of the 21st century, yet received't attain many reward except we placed overtime into it.

2016-11-27 21:55:13 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Nope there is no other,just today I read that Pluto is no longer a planet but just a "Dwarf Planet" you can read about it on http://www.MiamiHerald.com the article date is August 25,2006!

2006-08-25 15:35:11 · answer #6 · answered by Lissa305 4 · 0 0

why sure havent you guessed this one bye now its a planet that geoorge bush landeed from fasr way in a far of galaxy and landded on his head destined too become ruler of this country his spaceship crashed right in some dudes backyard mamed jeb. and they rigged the electioons up, and sat downe to bankrupt thhis great counry send jobs over too china start something called weapons of mass desctruction and another alien landeed and got away wandring around 5 years laterr named bin lauden they crashed there spaceship into this huge buliding in new yor k city they had no idea were they were going and it s hows up in this presidents leadership ablities somwwhere in a far of galaxy he dragged his suitcase in the door destined too bring us hell and more higher gas pricess, etc, lets send him back too his far of planet out there in the galaxy, named after him, ec!!

2006-08-25 15:38:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes

2006-08-25 15:32:39 · answer #8 · answered by M L 5 · 0 0

Actually, as of yesterday we are one planet less.

2006-08-25 15:33:14 · answer #9 · answered by FaerieWhings 7 · 0 0

Mercury...Neptune....Mars....
Saturn.....Jupiter....Venus.....
& Uranus

Of course Pluto has just been disqualified as a planet.

And billions more out there. Which one were you looking for????

2006-08-25 15:35:23 · answer #10 · answered by Canadian Ken 6 · 0 0

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.. no.


.. there are actually only 8 planets now .. Pluto has been demoted to a lower level of existence.

.. honestly.

>> http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060824_planet_definition.html


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2006-08-25 15:33:59 · answer #11 · answered by Agent C 3 · 0 0

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