if you are a Christian.. how do you justify Violence against Women and Children ?

Question

be clear now.. I am an American asking this question of other Americans ? If you say you are a Christian ..but you support the Iraq occupation, the Israeli bombing of Lebanon and you are for preemptive military actions.. where does being Christian fit in?

as always the "reactionaries" react as if I was speaking only to them.. also I did not assume any position ..what I asked was how do you "justify" acts of violence against women and children. .. so if you found yourself suddenly feeling defensive then perhaps your reasoning is flawed.. I do not accept a notion of collateral damages, I do not accept that being in the military one must obey orders regardless, I do not accept the idea that because Hezbolah fired rockets at Israeli war ships that it is then Israelis duty to destroy a city full of innocent people..sorry. Don't be indignant with me.. you are the one that are comfortable with "MURDER" in the name of "your" God.. ? I doubt Christ would condone these actions or your pathetic attempts to justify..The Murder of women and children.. you can't hide behind your plastic cross forever. Recognize the truth of love and be free from the chains of hate and ignorance..

Answer 1

the OT says an eye for an eye, tooth for tooth...then why not kill woman for woman, child for child?

...on the other hand the NT says turn the other cheek, which do you choose?

I doubt the "christians" waging war in the middle east are doing it because of "christian" principles.

Instead they are killing out of hate for the enemy among other nefarious reasons. I doubt Jesus would have dealt with the enemy in this way.

I think most christians don't take their religion seriously, its just lip service.

Answer 2

This isn't a question, this is a debate issue. By the way, the bombing of Lebanon was not premptive, if you had been paying attention Hezbollah fire rockets into Israel first, I call that self defense. Another thing is that this is not and Iraqi occupation, if they had a stable gov't that could take care of itself then we would not be there but it doesn't right now. Just as if during the american revolution if the (cringe) french werent there we could have not stood on our own and we would still be an extenstion of the Crown of Britian. The people in iraq need our help right now and we are giving that. What you people whine about american troops dying, yes this is a tradgedy but a needed one, and one thing you fail to realize is the Iraqi people (some 300,000 of them) are fighting and dying right along our troops and actaully many mor eof them have been dying. You narrow mind libs have such short attention spans and expect something like this to take only 6 months to complete. what you dont realize is that we are investing in our future. We will help these people have the freedoms we now enjoy under their own constitution, their own elected officials and their own military to defend all they hold dear. When they do get on their feet and can stand on their own they will be greatful to us just as we were to the french. With that we will have a sane, peacable muslim alley, not a tyranical dictator funding terrorist operations. With this we are investing in our security and the security of all peacable muslim people. It is very sad that women and defenseless children die, if there was a way for it to keep from happening I know we would do it but right now there is not. You dont seem to understand that these terroristd hide behind them and use them as sheilds. and when they die the families are proud of their death because they believe in this grand martardom. In world war 2 or 1 even, how many inoccent civilians died because of our bombing raids in germany? or how many dies when we dropped 2 atomic bombs in japan? War is ugly and war is not perfect and I hate war as much as the next touchy-feely liberal. What you dont understand is that these people have 1 thing on their minds is that they want to kill every last one of us, not bargain, not talk, no make deal thru the corrupt U.N, the simply want you and I dead. God forbid if these wackos get atomic weapons, because if you want to see civilians die, you would then see it by the millions. if we dont stop them now, thats what will happen, not hundred, not thousands, millions will die. so let me ask you this, how can you be a christian and not support what we are doing. Because if we sit back and do nothing, evil is the only thing to prevail,

Answer 3

Even the crusaders in the middle ages fought against those they perceived to be bad. To liberate the holy land thousands marched across Europe to take on the Muslims.
Being a Christian does not require You to be non violent. it requires You to defend Your values and family. You seem to forget Israel is defending itself not attacking for no reason. The Iraq situation was done to free the people from Saddam's oppression. The women and children killed or hurt during the fighting were unavoidable. The fault lies with the terrorist and radicals that put them at risk by attacking Israel and fighting the very forces that are trying to give them a free country. Do not blame the defenders of freedom and those reacting to the attacks on Israel. Blame those who fight behind the women and children.

Answer 4

Theres a vast difference between doing what you must do as part of being in the military and your personal convictions. You may well hold it immoral or un christian and the like but as a citizen of a nation, any nation you have a responsibilty if your in the military to do what you must do. Thats not a justification for commiting war crimes but protecting yourself and acting in a manner that fullfils your objective and your mission sometimes resquires you to perform acts you might otherwise find questionable.

Answer 5

Hmm, how does the brother of Saddam Hussein justify torturing Iraqi athletes? Sometimes you have to go through redemptive violence, but it's still not the best way. I have great sympathy for innocent lives lost, but there was something oppressive about the government there which was going to stifle future leaders from the younger generation. I don't know enough about Lebanon and Israel yet to say much, but I would say, what is wrong with Israel keeping their own country and defending themselves? Let's recognize kindness and personal sovereignty and the individual dignity of everyone. No more torturing, please. Everyone needs to eat more gummy bears and m&ms.

Answer 6

First of all, a person has a right to defend himself. We went into Iraq because Saddam agreed to a cease fire after he was defeated in the Gulf War. Part of that agreement was to allow inspectors unfettered access to see if he was amassing weapons we did not want him to have. He blocked inspectors and 19 UN Resolutions later, nothing. I watched Pres. Bush's speech before we went into Iraq and this was a major point.

Our President has a responsiblity to defend us. After 9-11, some of us realized that we cannot sit around and wait. We have to go after terrorists and the countries that harbor them.

If anyone does not like this, then get an army and try to stop us. We can kick the crap out of any army out there. The ones that would give a good fight are on our side.

As for Israel, Hamas, Hesbos, and the various terrorist groups delcared war on them. The Hesbos struck first by taking Israeli troops. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO EXIST AND DEFEND ITSELF.

As for the uninformed women and children comment of yours: PEOPLE DIE IN WAR. THAT IS LIFE. You are looking at a situation emotionally that needs logic.

As for how all this fits into Christianity,

1. I have the right to life free of violence and terror.
2. I will defend my life and that of my family's
3. No God of mine would ever try to take that away.

Answer 7

You really do hate the Jews, don't you? Or maybe you just don't know the difference between targeting women and children as the terrorist do and causalities of war? There is a *real* difference. Cowards and scumbags target and hid behind the innocent. Oh, and BTW, you are an idiot

Answer 8

Cristianity or religion doesn't really have anything to do with the war in lebanon. These are all political propaganda. The real motives here is Imperialism. The US Government is backing Israel because it has a hidden agenda, which is imperialism. The US started with Iraq. Now, thru subtlety, they are invading Lebanon. What next? Arab countries, watch out.

Answer 9

god is a in basic terms god the country Amalek killed the more youthful the historic and the elderly of israel as israel changed into once bobbing up out of egypt the country amalek attacked israel from the rear killing their toddlers and toddlers god had israel bypass lower back the equivalent back to the country of Amalek the country of Amalek changed into once evil not a innocent by using technique of stander isn't that the equivalent attitude Muslims have even as justifying violence in the Quran? no its not god is in basic terms and holy the problem is skewed reasoning

Answer 10

Being a christian fits in with legitimately defending the population against those that seek to kill us.

In Iraq, we toppled a regime that killed by the thousands whenever the dictator woke up on the wrong side of the bed, not to mention paying terrorist families $25,000 per suicide bomber to commit terrorist acts in the middle-east. God help us if he would have developped a nuke or large scale bio-bomb, and his various other ties to global terrorism. Now the country is at relative peace with some in fighting of terrorists that would seek a similar oppressive regime that hussein was. How unchristian I am for supporting the destruction of a murderous regime.

As far as Israel goes, again, Hezbollah not only continuously asserts that it's purpose is to commit genocide on the Jews, but they also send suicide bombers and rockets into israel to kill civilians. Then, when Israel counter attacks, they disallow civilians to leave their homes, using them as direct human shields and propoganda tools. How terrible of me to support the destruction of a terrorist organization that not only kills innocent women and children ON PURPOSE, but they also do so by turning their own children into suicide bombers. How unchristian I am.

So I ask you, how can you dare to question others' christian values, while turning a blind eye to the heinous acts being commited by the side that we have defeated? How dare you imply that we Christians support violence on women and children, when the Hussein government's motto was "Rape and Torture", and Hezbollahs stated mission is to rid the earth of every last Jew.


He ignored it. Go figure. Let yourself and your country be killed, don't dare do anything to defend yourself if it involves killing someone. Obviously you are not interested in reason, only misguided blogging.