Why should gay marriage be illegal?

Question

Marriage is the celebration of love between two people. And it is an important institution. I know many gay couples who deeply love each other and raise children in a very loving environment. Sometimes more loving of an environment than a heterosexual couple can provide. So why should anyone who knows nothing of that love prevent these people from enjoying the same rights as the rest of the population?

The Lunatic: It happened in family...So you have no point!

Lone Star: I couldn't care less if you are offended by it.

Answer 1

Wow!

I can't think of when I've seen such a combination of ignorance and bigotry displayed in one thread!

I don't even know where to begin....but of course I'll try!

First point, if you don't want to marry someone of the same sex, don't. If you don't want your kids to be gay, teach them not to be (and God help you if one of them turns out that way anyway!)

Second point, if you say that a marriage between gay or lesbian partners "offends the community or majority" then will it be okay when a majority DOES support the idea? (Hint: Every poll says that the percentage of Americans who are not offended by gay marriage grows every day, so you'd better get used to it).

Third point, if God didn't want homosexuals, why did he make so many of them? Homosexual activity has been around since the beginning of mankind, and in the animal kingdom as well. It's as natural as, say blue eyes, which occur in a significant minority of people. So does homosexuality.

Fourth point, if homosexuality is a "lifestyle choice" what would it take to make all you studly straight guys choose to "get it up" over another man? I'm sorry, but the "gay agenda" people could bombard me with videotapes of Cats and Rosie O'Donnell speeches for a week and it wouldn't make my pulse (or anything else) rise over that Will and Grace guy. There may be a small minority of people who are born with a switch that goes either way, but the vast, vast majority of people come in two flavors - gay or straight. Try the experiment yourself - go rent some gay pornos and watch them non-stop until you begin to get excited. Throw in some Barney Frank speeches. Read the "Blade" and the "Advocate" until their subtle poison begins to work on your mind. Only when something comes up, so to speak, will you be justified in worrying about gays "converting" your children.

Fifth point, to the misguided few who think that marriage is regulated or sanctioned only for those capable of giving birth. Should there also be a fertility test before marrying to make sure you're capable of procreating? No spermies or eggies no license? How about old people? No marriages past menopause? And, by that reasoning, why not make people get divorced when they're past child rearing age and haven't produced, or when their kids are old enough to be out of the house? After all, there's no reason for the government to be involved in their wills, their health care proxies, their medicare, etc. Make 'em get unhitched when their usefulness as child producers is over!

Sixth point, to the people who say that accepting marriage between man and man or woman and woman will inevitably lead to "why not marriage between man and goat?" or "why not marriage between woman and sack of sweet potatoes?" - Are you familiar with the fallacy of the slippery slope? I thought not. You could look it up. Or you could just check back in and see whether eight years of Bill Clinton managed to collapse the national economy, put the commies into every government office, and accomplish all of the other hideous, evil things you warned us about in 1992.

Finally, and most importantly, the state or government confers many, many legal rights to married couples involving health care, taxes, child-rearing rights, guardianship, and almost every aspect of civil legal life. The state allocates these rights or privileges only to those who meet the definition of marriage, and it strips them from those who are unable to marry their love. It is unfair and discriminatory to treat a whole category of taxpaying citizens in this way, and eventually most Americans will come to realize this.

Remember, it was less than a century ago that most states, and most Christians, viewed the marriage of a black person and a white person as illegal and against the will of God.

I guess God wanted us to move in a different direction, and we did. Perhaps s/he still wants us to move forward. I hope so.

Answer 2

I think you are focusing more on the piece of paper and you want to be recognized by the government. To me it isn't about the piece of paper, I'd rather not have the piece of paper, because to me marriage is between a man, women, and God all entering into a union with each other. The piece of paper is just showing that you are married to the government. No, I know it wouldn't stop gays from living with or loving each other. You can have the piece of paper. But if you think that all Christians don't like you or are against you then we (gays and Christians) have a lot to work on, because not all hate you. You are a child of God just like I am. Yes, we do exercise separation of church and state, but there is a lot of church within the state.

Answer 3

I think at the very least they should be allowed to enter into civil unions. My brother is in the Connecticut legislature and voted for it when the bill came up. I was proud of him for that.
People do disagree on this subject. My girlfriend for example is against it, primarily on religious grounds. Me feeling is that to not allow it strictly on religious grounds give preferential treatment to a particular religions philosophy and is unconstitutional. Another common argument against gay marriage is that marriage is for procreation. What if a couple can't have children? One or both may be infertile, the wife could be most menopause, etc. Should they not be allowed to be married? If they should, then the procreation argument against gay marriage falls apart.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Answer 4

How many "God" or "Bible" answers are you going to get?

A bunch, I bet. Because there is no LEGAL argument for preventing gay marriage, they have to rely on the Bible and then pretend that our Founding Fathers were evangelical Christians like them, even though Jefferson and Franklin openly doubted the divinity of Christ and John Adams signed a treaty that stated "America is in no way a Christian nation."

Oh, and then they'll say, "Why not child molestation?" or "Why not beastiality?" or "Why not polygamy?" Because they can't recognize the difference between two consenting adults and the abuse of an individual who is not able to make decisions for themselves or the fact that there is nothing in the Constitution that says you can't prevent something based on "number of participants".

They have no FACTS at all.

I have one: Denmark, the first nation to legalize gay marriage has seen its overall divorce rate FALL by 2% since legalizing gay marriage and their overall marriage rate increased by 17%. And the gay divorce rate is 17% compared to 46% for heterosexual couples. And what state has the lowest divorce rate in the US? Why, it's Massachusetts!

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Ha! While I was typing mine, most of them did exactly what I said they would. They're so predictable. Why? Because they spout the same sh!t over and over again and they can't think for themselves.

Answer 5

Regardless of whether or not you approve of homosexuality, you have to admit that it is different from homosexuality. Not just because of sexual preference, but based on tradition as well. Marriage has been traditionally defined as between one man and one woman, and that's how it should stay. Changing the basic moral fiber of the country is not beneficial to anyone, including homosexuals. If you are going to argue for the rights of gay people to marry, then are you going to argue for bigamists rights as well?
That being said, I don't think that anyone should be denied the right to make their love official, nor should partners be denied financial stability, insurance, etc. based on their sexual preference. But, since homosexual relationships are different, their unions could become something else...most gay couples don't want to be connected with traditional marriage, so why call it marriage? Why not start a new tradition....
I have gay friends, and we discuss this sort of stuff....amicably and rationally....I'm not just speaking from the dark here.--and, unless you are homosexual, you don't know anything of that love either.......

Answer 6

NO marriage is the celebration of the love between a Man and a Woman, not two people. I do not want children exposed to that type of sin, then they will think it is OK. Just like the smoking cartoon cat. The kids see it and they think it is OK to do. Well it is not. I have no problem with people being gay that is there right. I just dont want them being able to marry or have children in there present. We lock sex offenders away from children. The Gay community should stay away from the children too.

Answer 7

It isn't illegal. You won't go to jail for it. It is just not regulated by legislation or common law because the government has no interest in gay marriage. The government has an interest in regulating heterosexual marriage because those marriages result in childbirth. What is the government's interest in homosexual marriage? Wasn't the Constitution created to keep government out of our personal affairs? You can't have it both ways and we know you gays love it both ways.

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Answer 8

Coz God made women for men and men for women, and the marriage is a celebration of love between tow ppl that true but the main thing for it is to start a family with a mother and a father and kids.
no matter how much a gay couple can try they cant provide every thing a heterosexual couple can provide.
not coz i say so or you say so or any one say so its coz GOD Say's so coz if he thought that gay ppl can be good parents he would have giving them the chance or the ability to have kids.
not talking about adoption here for sure ! don't you believe in that ?
its about the same thing with any ppl with genetic disorders they are infertile why coz god didn't give them the Chance to have kids and that's for a reason which is they would be having genetic disorders too that's from the physical health point of view but with gay marriage its gona be from a sociological point of view.
thats my personal point of view for sure hope you respect it and not be offended by it.

Answer 9

Yes, sorry but being a heterosexual and seeing the way we act I say give the gays the same right to mess up just as we do. Homophobes are the only one who have any fear of this non-issue.

Answer 10

I believe that gays should be given the same rights as hetros. However, the word "marriage" came from a time before our culture felt this way.
I'm for reserving the word & onfering the rights. Seems to give something to both sides.