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2006-08-25 02:07:43 · 23 answers · asked by pompsilul 1 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

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This is a tricky question.

So on one hand, you have Israel. Founded as a religious Mecca in the 60s for the Jews who, have been wandering without a homeland since, well, their beginning. Much of the old city had already been bought up by Jewish settlers and they had just gone through the whole Hitler ordeal, so the UN gave them their own country.

On the other hand, you have Palestine, who just had their wn land taken from them by the United Nations to create a country that they believe shouldn't exist on land that was their own.

Who is right? Well, it's only been about forty years so the animosity of it all is still fresh. However, families are settled and government has been formed. Both are right and both are wrong. It's time to make a peace that both can agree on. Palestine needs to concede and acknowledge that Israelis are also human beings and Israel needs to recognize why Palestine is so upset and allow them special trade and other benefits that other countries may not get. They need to become mutually beneficial to one another.

The problem is, Palestine refuses to acknowledge the existence of Israel and it treating it's citizens as squatters on their land. The sentiment is understandable, but what's done is time and now it's now to recognize change and move on.

People are more important than property.

2006-08-25 02:09:38 · answer #1 · answered by barelyliterate 3 · 1 0

Good question:

From Israel the US and England's point of view its right for Israel to be in Palestine!!
From Palestine and the rest of the worlds point of view its not!!

Lets look at both arguments and some facts and try to make a decision!!

1) Israel believes Palestine is their promised land!! If so, and if god promised them this land!! Why is it that they can't occupy it destroy the Palestinians and live in peace? Are the Palestinians stronger then the Jews and their gods will?!!

2) God is merciful; I don't think any god will promise any 1 any thing if the would have to kill to get their present.

3) God is great if he wanted to give the Jews land he can make a whole new galaxy and give it to them, he can create another earth or something.

I simply don’t buy the story of promised land?!!

On the other hand, if Israel isn't their promised land and they just occupied it because they want a country!! Then no I don't think they have the right to kill millions of people so they can get a country?!! I don’t think any religion should have a country of its own, cause if every religion wanted a country we will have a never ending war and will have more than 89,762 countries on this planet?!! I think its racist to have a country based on religion only?!! I think its wrong to kill civilians for religion and I think that fits in the definition of terrorisms!!

2006-08-25 02:51:24 · answer #2 · answered by hot_anthony_1982 2 · 0 1

Nah, it's pretty bad down there. They get taxed by the israelis (and right now israel is just keeping the money). The palestinians can't vote in israeli elections, but the jews living there in settlements can. Their houses could be bulldozed at any time (no compensation), and israel tends to fire artillery and other area effect weapons if they think a terrorist lives in a neighborhood. Plus if a palestinian gets killed for whatever reason by a trigger-happy israeli soldier, there's never any compensation to the family or punishment for the Israeli soldiers. So yeah, it sucks to live in Palestine, and it's Israel's fault because they drove the arabs out of what is present day israel in the first place, and then refused to annex Palestine as part of Israel and give the palestinians citizenship (because that would erase the jewish majority in Israel).

Just a bad situation all around.

2006-08-25 02:15:52 · answer #3 · answered by 006 6 · 0 1

Theoretically no -- except for such land as was legally bought, mainly in East Jerusalem. But as you are aware, the minute they leave, as they left Gaza, Hamas will arm itself to the teeth and send deadly rockets, suicide bombers and -- if Iran possesses them and gives them to them some day -- tactical nuclear weapons into Israel.

Because it is a basic premise of Hamas that "Umar the Second Caliph, gave all of Palestine to the Muslims as waqf [pious trust] in perpetuity."

Nonsense, you may say. Especially if you are Shia and believe that Umar was a fraud and Ali was the rightful successor to Mohammed. But the fact is that Hamas is committed to driving the Jews into the sea, every last one, laying waste to Israel and living happily ever after in its ruins.

Conclusion: Every State has the right of self-defense under the UN Charter and under international law. Whether that right extends to pre-emption as George W. Bush seemed to believe when he attacked Iraq is besides the point when the invader-occupier has the big guns. The same is true of Israel, only the need for pre-emption is somewhat clearer. Neither Iran nor Hamas nor Fatah much respects commitments they have signed.

I like to compare your question to the cases I've been reading in the newspapers about battered women who seek protection orders against their (soon to be ex-) husband. The husband appears before the judge in suit and tie and promises to be good, and the judge refuses the order. Or he doesn't and the judge issues the order. Either way, the husband breaks into the house a few days later and murders his wife and children.

And the police and the social workers and the judge all say that their "hands were tied". You can't arrest somebody for what he might do, but hasn't yet.

Or can you? They arrested 12 potential terrorists in London a few days ago, and some of them at least have been charged.

When a State's existence is at risk, "right" and "law" cease to be absolutes and become quite relative things. No Jew in a position of responsibility wants to have to say "if only" again. Not after the Holocaust.

And if the Muslims think they are so innocent and entitled to justice: before they were Palestinians they were Ottomans. Always remember what the Ottoman Turks did to the Armenians.

2006-08-25 02:15:56 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Its not right.

Israel should get oota palestine. Everybody should stop killing everybody! Why did the Jews have to have their own country? What is so special about them? God loves us all the same, He doesn't love the Jews any more than anybody else! (or so I have always been lead to believe)

And if I disaprove of Israel, that does not make me a Nazi.
Just because the Nazis did what they did, it does not mean the palestinians should have to pay!

2006-08-26 10:27:45 · answer #5 · answered by Clarsair 2 · 0 0

Nothing exists that is worth what people do to each other in wars. What is the difference between the people that live in Israel and the people that live in Lebanon, that makes it impossible for them to share a little square of land? There is nothing that is worth blowing a little girl's arm off. There is nothing that is worth blinding sedate old men.

What is it about humankind that we are so afraid of each other? That we need to keep enforcing reproduction so that WE outnumber THEM? How is it that every major religion claims to be advocating peace while being distorted into an excuse to make war?

Why can’t we see that we are running out of everything and that the people are fools who are sure that the right solution to that is to use it all up faster? How can Jerry Falwell or James Dobson fail to see that in the name of Jesus they are advocating the very worst sins that Jesus denounced? How can these monstrous men get away with the death mongering and the world destroying they are doing and advocating?

Nothing exists that is worth the slaughter of innocents. Nothing is worth bombing civilians, or poisoning rivers and streams. Nothing is that real. No city or nation or imagined position of purity is worth defining a people as ENEMY and setting out to destroy or enslave them.

When the big wave comes and washes away our sand castle, it will never be the intricacy lost, and the beauty, and the waste investment of time and energy that matters afterward. It will be the people that were involved in it with us. They will matter in our hearts. And the big wave always comes. And if we manipulated and took advantage of people, enslaved people, and demeaned and defamed people for the end of building that mighty, invincible, immutable sand castle, then we shall be truly lost, and alone on a dark ocean strand without even the stars to keep us company.

What can we possibly do to retrace our steps? Can a war be un-fought? Can the limbs of the children be re-installed? Can the words of hate be un-said? Can the wasted oil and the ruined environment be put back as they once were? Can we ever smooth over the plaster in such a way as to make the broken beams underneath not matter?

2006-08-25 07:56:21 · answer #6 · answered by Brookelynn 2 · 1 0

Its not easy to answer. If you have land you occupy for a period it is yours. What I have to say is until Hezbollah took the two soldiers and attacked Israel the slender peace was holding. Israels response may have been over the top. Believe me Blair and Bush would leave you to rot. So lets be honest its between Israel and Palestine not Us and the USA or Syria and Iran.

2006-08-25 04:55:37 · answer #7 · answered by deadly 4 · 0 0

What is really right? All of those peoples that live there have been fighting over this area for a very long time. It seems to me that the Jews just have the upper hand right now. In a 100 years from now someone might have successfully eliminated the Jewish threat and and taken over the Gaza strip, Jerusalem and all the other so called Holy land and someone will ask " Is it right for _______ 2 be in Israel?"

2006-08-25 02:22:57 · answer #8 · answered by Flyingfrog 1 · 0 1

no it is not right 4 israel to be in palestine muslims have their own country** why should they allow bloody **DOGS** PIGS israels to come and have their country like a piece of cake?**
If Israel really want to live with peace it must leave palestine lobnon
Hizbullah had taught a reaalyy good lesson to bloody americans and their pet dog .
Well done and CONGRAULATIONS TO LOBNANE,s

2006-08-25 04:24:06 · answer #9 · answered by fizzakhan 2 · 0 0

Blame the Brits and the Nazis. The wave of sympathy for the Jewish people at the end of WW2 encouraged the British (Balfour convention) to 'give' Palestine to the Jewish people. Having said that they turned it into a prosperous and fertile country and when you look at the state ofmost ARAB countries maybe the right decision was made.

2006-08-25 02:11:56 · answer #10 · answered by sandi smith 3 · 2 0

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