YOu have been fleeced since Nixon took office, wake up folks.
As for prayin in Jesus' name at school anyone want to get is started?
2006-08-24 08:50:54
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answered by eg_ansel 4
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First off, "one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all" is from a modified version of the Pledge of Allegiance, not the Constitution. It was originally written as "on nation, indivisible, with liberty, equality, and justice for all". Notice the 2 changes there? under God was added and "equality" was removed. Isn't that ironic.
Secondly, no one said you can't pray in school. You can pray all you want, as long as your praying doesn't violate the rights of those who choose not to pray or who pray differently than you do.
Public schools cannot sanction prayer because they are funded by the federal government, and the federal government "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" (US Constitution, Amendment 1)
Mandating school prayer would violate this as it would be akin to state-sponsorship of religion.
Besides "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen." (Matthew 6:6) Prayer is to be done in private, not in public.
I do agree with everything you said after "Wrong choice made by 51% in "04", though.
2006-08-24 07:54:01
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answered by john_stolworthy 6
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Everybody takes the phrase separation of church state the wrong way.
1. This phrase is never found in the Constitution.
2. It was a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Franklin.
3. The letter expressly says that in order for our government to work we must avoid the the religious tyranny that we escaped from. It meant that we need to keep the government out of religion not religion out of the government.
Atheism is a joke. have you ever heard an atheist say "oh my God" or something of that nature. of course you have because there is an innate tendency in all human beings to believe in a higher power something other than themselves.
2006-08-24 08:27:56
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answered by carman_88_88 1
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That is not in the Constitution it is in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Your question makes no sense since you are calling Bush an atheist when it is well known that he makes his decisions based on his faith in God.
You seriously believe that John Kerry and his liberal cohorts (the ones who are FOR banning prayer in EVERY form) would be more "religious" with their choices?
Bush hasn't divided our nation; the people of this nation have divided themselves.
Our soliders are dying to protect you from those who wish you harm for wanting to pray in school and wanting to worship GOD rather than Allah.
Our treasury is not being consumated, it is being consumed. It is not solely on account of this war that the treasury is depleted. Think Katrina, pork-barrel spending, raises for Congress, corporate welfare, and education instead.
And seriously, get an education if you think the democrats are going to allow you to "bless" America. Lame-brain... it's time for YOU to wake up.
2006-08-24 07:56:53
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answered by Goose&Tonic 6
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Um, I think you need to do some more homework
Prayer is allowed school but not organized prayer.
President Bush and his cabinet are not atheists. They are Christian. Otherwise called "conservative republicans" by some people
Our brave soldiers aren't dying for no reason. Go ask them what they are fighting for. Go ask them why they choose to re-enlist for 2 or 3 tours.
I agree with you that without religion in our nation that our morals fall. This is a HUGE issue to me. President Bush is the one who was against abortion and gay marriage, etc. So he was the religious and moral choice
2006-08-24 07:55:25
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answered by Jasmine 5
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No it doesn't say that. Have you read the constitution?
The pledge of allegiance is not there. In fact, the phrase "under god" was added in the 1950s, as a response to communist Russia. It wasn't in the pledge for the first century of its use.
What is there is a line that says the government "shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion". What that means is that the government cannot sponsor, promote or advocate religion.
And having a teacher stand up and tell children to pray is sponsoring and promoting religion.
If you want to pray on your own time, that's completely your right. If you want to go (or send your kids to) to a private school that has school prayer, that's also a guaranteed right.
But the government-funded public-school system cannot tell someone to pray. That's a violation of the Establishment clause.
As far as the rest of your disapproval of Bush, that I agree with.
2006-08-24 07:50:50
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answered by coragryph 7
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hehehe..."consumated treasury"...
incidentally, "one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all" is part of the US pledge of allegiance and not the US Constitution.
The constitutional provision that affects prayers in schools is the guarantee of separation between Church and State. Prayer is not allowed in public schools funded by federal money. Pray all you want at a private school that allows that kind of thing.
I'm not american, by the way...
2006-08-24 07:58:04
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answered by spindoccc 4
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Whose prayers should be allowed? Christians? Which ones: Catholics, Presbyterians, Pentecostal, Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican, Mormon, Jehovah's Witnesses, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox or any of hundreds of other denominations? What about Jews? Muslims? Wiccans? Zoroastrians? Hare Krishnas? Baha'i's? Buddhists? Scientologists?
If we allow one then we must allow them all or else we are instituting a state religion, wiping out the line between church and state and along with it all the provisions in the constitution for freedom of conscience.
Better to leave faith to the family and the individual to address and let society (including schools and all other public insitutions) to respect the rights of the individual to believe or not believe as they see fit.
2006-08-24 07:59:55
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answered by Rory McRandall 3
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it has been after the Renaissance Period that religion and government disbanded, this makes friars (or other religious authorities) take head of the government (this is more of the Roman Catholic case).
Anyone has rights to what they believe in, if the country enhances a iron fist in uniforming religion and not allowing people with other religion (or atheist) or even questioning their religion... isn't that discrimination to the natural rights of human beings to firmly believe in what they think is right as long as it does not affect the mass in a terrible/ unfortunate way?
As for school, if you're in a Public or Non-Sectarian school, you're most likely not to be told to pray (towards a specific religion) but then if you're predominantly Catholic in the school.... there is a possibility.
if you're gonna hit on Bush like that, please do it in a Political way, not a Religious or a Philosophical way
2006-08-24 08:12:11
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answered by arelente2 2
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Prayer is an active effort to communicate with a deity or spirit, including a monotheist God, Saints, gods within a pantheon, or others; either to offer praise, to make a request, or simply to express one's thoughts and emotions. The words of the prayer may either be a set hymn or incantation, or a spontaneous utterance in the devotee's own words.
i thought i would start with the wikipedia definition of prayer. anyone can pray anytime they want in school, at work, at teh beach, mall, etc. prayer is about a relationship with God, not about following the example of a teacher that may or may not believe in God. I would not force any one to pray to God if they do not believe in Him.
2006-08-24 08:11:32
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answered by forjj 5
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Prayers ARE allowed in school. The religious right totally distorts the truth on this issue.
When a student wishes to pray, he or she is perfectly allowed to.
School-Sanctioned, or organized prayer, is not allowed as that would be "respecting the establishment of a religion" and constitutionally barred.
2006-08-24 07:55:10
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answered by Ricky T 6
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