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I think Juve gave football a bad name and people will never trust Juve anymore.

2006-08-24 06:37:33 · 21 answers · asked by rumman 2 in Sports Football Italian Football

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2006-08-24 07:16:24 · update #1

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Your questions often are Juventus bashing.
It's usual to me to have some one trash talking about Juve: I'm from Turin, Juve fan, and quite old referring to average age in Y-a, so it's since decades it's going on... I guess you need to know some points:
1. Juventus is one of the world most winning teams. Listing all their records needs too much place.
2. Juventus was an highly competitive team all over their history. Forever they received hate and trash talking from other Clubs' fans.
3. About football scandal, it needs to say
i) Top Juventus manager were Antonio Giraudo, Luciano Moggi and Roberto Bettega. The last is a former Juve player. They always were together - working, watching match and so on. From investigations it's clear Bettega wasn't involved at all, nor were Juve players and coach. Only - and it's enough - Moggi and Giraudo. In Milan AC the second president Galliani was involved in the scandal as well as lesser manager Meani. Fiorentina and Lazio had involved their President and owners, Della Valle and Lotito respectively. Between the many accusations they got, the first one asked the second to setup a match between their teams, Lotito refused but didn't reveal this to Football Federations. Juventus and Milan haven't such a critical accusation - they 'selected' the ref to officiate various match to have a 'fair' treatment, and Football Federation and Ref Association managers were involved. They WEREN'T PAID, there is only evidence of some free tickets given to a Refs manager. And players NEVER know this. They did their best. Juve had Buffon, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, Zambrotta, Del Piero, Thuram, Trezeguet, Vieira playing in WC final, as well as the former players Inzaghi, Henry, Zidane and coach Lippi. This is the better way to show the world Juve is a GREAT Club, besides other Clubs supporters words.
ii) Anyway, Juventus:
* admitted they're guilty
* banned THE WHOLE OLD MANAGEMENT
* said 'serie B relegation could be a balanced judgement and we need to accept it'
The other Clubs involved - Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio:
* declared they were innocent (LIARS)
* declared if they were fined, they immediately switch to Law Courts.
Sport Court judges
* switched Milan first judgment to a lighter one, allowing them to play Champions League preliminaries
* canceled Fiorentina and Lazio 'serie B' relegation
* Juventus had only switched from 30- to -17 points in 'serie B'.
They had an hard judgment against the most collaborative team and a fair judgment with menacing Clubs, and, besides law codes and microcodes and lawyers masterworks, this is an ancient and stinky Italian behavior who must be blamed.
'Forte con i deboli e debole con i forti'
'To be harsh with the weaker and soft with the stronger'
Cowardice.
Doing this they were willing to avoid other judgment session, which obviously will stop the championship starting. There was a last judgment, they refused Juventus claims and now they got what they deserve.
Blame on them.
Now, Juventus will be more fined (if Italian Football Federation wouldn't do this FIFA will sanction them and Italian Clubs in UEFA cups), and championship won't start.
Morons, all they are morons.

Believe me, Juve wrote GREAT pages in football history and this is what all over the world supporters will remember. Milan and Lazio were already fined and 'serie B' relegated - with players involved in betting - in the last '70. One of those players was Paolo Rossi, I guess supporters don't remember him for betting, but for the stunning 1982 WC, especially in Italy - Brazil 3-2.
To gave football a bad name corrupted managers works very well, but trash talking is definitively USELESS.
You could be the # 10,000 spitting at Juve I've collected in my life, but I'm forever a BIANCONERO and I fully trust my Club.

2006-08-24 23:10:44 · answer #1 · answered by erri 5 · 0 0

Hahahaha!
Are you serious?!
Not at all. Football is not that weak, and neither is Juve.

Think of this: does an overdated portion of chocolate ice cream (if you do like chocolate ice cream) taint the image you have of chocolate ice cream? No.

This too shall pass. Besides, it's wrong to blame the whole club for the errors of some (some that even are part of other clubs also, let's not kid ourselves). Their player are great, and in the end, that's what a great team is made of.

Just wait for the new improved Chocolate Ice CReam. It'll rock your world!

Goodluck!

2006-08-24 17:06:30 · answer #2 · answered by justasking 5 · 0 0

Juventus made public what many football players and viewers suspected in the first place. All those that paid close attention, knew something was going on, and now the whole world knows.

Italian football in general has made a travesty of football. With the racism and cheating.

There not alone though. It's not fair to blame it all on Italy, even though it's mostly them.

2006-08-24 06:59:06 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

One way another, someone is going to take advantage of their team and start doing bad things. I don't think Juve fans will ever stop cheering for Juventus. I don't think they tainted the image of football entirely, but the image of ITALIAN football...

2006-08-24 06:43:52 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Honestly I don't.

Football is a sport that is loved all around the world, and even if people learned that all of FIFA was terrorists, people would still like football and the image would not be tainted. I don't think Juve will get a bad name either because its the board of juve that did it, not juve. After like 5 years they will be ok.

2006-08-24 06:46:20 · answer #5 · answered by Chuck 1 · 0 0

No, Juve is being scapegoatted because their a whale in a pond. If the intent was to clean up the sport every team involved would have been demoted. Why was AC Milan given a slap on the wrist and allowed to stay in Serie A? Could it be because they are owned by Silvio Berlusconi; who until recently was president of Italy and it's richest citizen. We'll spent 1 year in Serie B to take one for the league, no matter I'm a Juventina for life.

2006-08-24 14:46:45 · answer #6 · answered by tesorotx 5 · 0 0

NO I don't. That was using a CANNON when a fly swatter was the required remedy. Italian soccer has plummeted in my estimation as a result. They could have banned Moggi for life, but why punish the OLD LADY like they did? It was berlusconi's money and influence..that should be what is investigated. AC Milan came out pretty well..why was that?

2006-08-27 03:47:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Think again. Football can't possibly get a bad name because of this. Juve will be back in Seria A ASAP and it will always be the best Italian club - ever.

2006-08-24 07:55:19 · answer #8 · answered by Rescator 2 · 0 0

O Yeah! O Yeah! That is a big yeah! Don't trust the Old Lady anymore. Thats why we are here for!

2006-08-24 09:10:59 · answer #9 · answered by jason_the_cool_dude 1 · 0 0

If you're referring to the scandal no, there are scandal in every country and that doesn't affect the performance or trust of any soccer player.

2006-08-24 18:26:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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