How do you justify reparations and affirmative action?

Question

You know, I'm white, and certainly not a racist, but I can't help feel that giving minorities an advantage is the most racist thing I've ever heard of in my life. If you want equal oppurtunity why not just leave race ambiguous on the applications for jobs and colleges? Ok so maybe there would be less of one race and more of another but don't you think it'd be better to have the smartest kids possible? And as far as reparations, no one receiving them was a slave, not even their great-grandparents were slaves. I'm irish and I think if you pay off African-Americans then you had better pay me twice as much (for being born into a culture that I had nothing to do with.) Pretty much, I'm just sick of all the Al Sharpton bullcr*p. I want somebody who is for reperations or affirmative action to tell me why they think its a just cause, that I be denied from a college even though I had a 1400 SAT score and my friend's african american roommate only got a 700, and was accepted to the same school.

The only arguments I ever heard from the other side of the table were the unmentioned minority geting loud, aggressive and in the other person's face. Now we are online, diplomatic and civil as it gets. So now I am willing to listen if you have a legitimate reason. Anyone?

Someone here made another good point. My family didn't even move to this country! I'm a first generation American, and yet I pay taxes that go toward Reparations as though I myself was a slave owner, when in reality I'm not even a descendant of a slave owner.

Hello0o0o??? So am I to assume that no one supports these things?

My real problem with this comes from my childhood. I was placed into advanced courses since I was in 4th grade. In 6th grade I took afterschool courses for middle school level material. In 8th grade I started high school work, and in High school I was taking college level courses. I always had to push myself harder, learning harder material and more of it and there were never any non-white kids in these courses. So just because I'm white I need to be a super genius and sacrifice a part of my youth and my social life in order to be competitive with any random minority. I decided to move to Japan. I'm a minority over there. Guess what? I got into the number 3 school in the entire country but in America I was rejected from a college (Rutgers University) that is not even a third teer rank. That is pathetic. And that kid with the 700 SATs just cuts all his classes, smokes weed all day and fails everything. THAT is what I'm angry about. Peace America! And go F*uck yourself!
Japan > America

Basically what I'm saying is, I had to make it on my own steam, so should everyone else.

first of all, this country wasn't established 400 years ago, but I'll ignore that. You are an ignorant ************. You see you are just looking for someone to blaim. Like I said, I am a first generation American, and therefore I am in no way guilty and yet you still think it's just fine to blaim me based solely on race. You don't care about correcting anything, you just want to make easy money. You know if an African person moves to America tomorrow he can collect reperations and be elligable for afffirmative action's additional rights, even though he nor his anscestors were never slaves. do you see what's wrong with this? It's not about who to blaim, it's about that you should just let it go. The real oppressors died about 200 years ago, It's a life lesson that you are too proud and bostful to accept. And you're grammar is attrocious.

Answer 1

AMEN!

i say again, AMEN!

affirmitive action is a crock. Alan Bakke is a hero of mine because he stood up and WON against bogus affirmitive action rules.

as far as reparations go---didn't they all get 20 acres and a mule at the end of the Civil War? give it up.

Answer 2

Now you may understand how blacks feel.

"I can't help feel that giving minorities an advantage is the most racist thing I've ever heard of in my life"

But if you really want to know racist explain this, serious when you find a answer email me a tell me. I have a open mind.

Yet that happen to ALL blacks for 400 years, and the people who did 90% of that form of oppression NEVER own a single slave.

I think blacks say reparations because it means to repair or to restore something. Some blacks are effected not always slavery but segregation and Jim Crow. Others are not. So they would say they need this in order to get reparations. But what I learn was that blacks do not want reparations for what they tell you.

If you listen carefully you will find out why blacks want reparations and it's not to repair or to restore. You will hear them say things like "slavery, disfranchisement, Segregation, Jim Crow, and 400 year of continuing oppression." You will hear them say how bad their ancestors were treated, and they would list examples of this. Notice the connection, it's not because all blacks need it or want it. It's just because 400 years of oppression went unpunished. That's all they want it someone to pay for that crime, like the nation who did it. That's truely the real motive behind it.

You said you lost out on a job because you believe it was Affirmative Action. So if we can agree that's the case think about how many blacks alive today lived in segregation and lost jobs because of Jim Crow. My mom for one and they told her that it was because she was black. The point is If you truely believe that's the most racist thing you have ever heard then you don't know racism. If that the most race thing to hear then you have no choice but to agree what i'm about to say.

So this is less racist for a group to go out and drink with their family and have a picnic which means to "Pick a ******" for a lynching. When a nation oppress a people 400 years and that same nation is still here today, and hold themselfs not guilty. That same nation the kill hundreds of thousands because they wanted to vote. People who kill blacks just because he didn't give a certain group respect that cost him his life.

Do you know how people died in the millions because they were black. I mean "dead" lost their life, the most priceless thing to have. When you live in a nation that you know hates you so much it just decide to kill you, then you know true racism. Yet you find that losing or the belief you lost out on your school because of Affirmative action is the most racist thing of all. WHY??????

Answer 3

I don't know about most blacks, but I'm going to ride the Black Ticket and see where it takes me. I had the lousiest GRE scores on record, but after my personal interview got into one of the best graduate schools in Philadelphia. Well, anywho. I don't want to be someone's token, and I have worked hard for everything I have, even served four years in the military. But, AA is in place for a reason. I live on the upper East Coast now, but I grew up in Tennessee, and I saw a lot of horrible things in my time. I may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but at the end of the day, I can say that I worked hard to get where I am, riding the Black Ticket or not. Thank you. My name is Adjo Adjo and I approve this message!
AWwwwww! Let's be friends. You need a BLACK friend LOL to change your narrow perception of all blacks.

Answer 4

i do honestly think some places wouldnt accept african americans if they wernt forced to, but yeah its a little ****** up thats what my tax moneys going to. I feel bad i do, but i've never hurt an african american, i dont discriminate, hell my theripist is african american, but i dont see why i'm paying for some white **** up a hundred years ago. my family wasnt in the country, we were all working in below poverty stadards in other countrys, then we moved here, and worked in below poverty standards,.

Answer 5

proportional representation, unless there is obvious greatere merit regardless, is quite acceptable. Eventually the cards will fall where they may. Im part irish too and i know we were treated harshly when my grandfather entered the country. It made us tougher though. Try another unv. like one here in Canada. Good luck. It's cheaper and SATs don't matter, just grades.

Answer 6

What makes me angry is not the affirmative action itself, but the people who get to take it. Middle class blacks from middle class neighborhoods get the money. It should be reserved for poor inner city or depressed rural population. It's BS that so many successful black people get the fundage simply because they are black.