There is no such race as "Welsh" so how is it?

Question

That if you say you dislike welsh people you are called racist. Nationalist maybe but not racist.
I grew up in Cheshire and unforunately have met many many welsh people in my time, not one of whom I liked. Have I just been unlucky? I like people based on who they are not where they are from.

I read welsh was a division of the celtic race but is not a race in its own right like being black or asian or white. Taken to its logical extreme you would end up with the Liverpool race or even the Chipping Camden race.

I'm not English, I grew up in cheshire, I'm Californian with Irish parents so there

'ch must bod Cymraeg. Ach 'n anhardd a hurtyn. 'ch fam ydy dafad

Hey Keefer, you are just like every Welsh person I ever met, I know if I met you I'd hate you

Answer 1

I'm a Welshman (a southern Welshman, in case anyone's interested), and I am ashamed of and disgusted by the Welsh people. So much so that I haven't lived there since they elected the monstrosity that is the Assembly by 50.04%, after a massively expensive government-sponsored pro-Assembly campaign.

Race is a complex issue, involving notions of ethnicity and culture. I have no doubt that some Welsh people are by now arrogant and self-deluded enough to think of themselves as a distinct race, with this distinct ethnicity and culture. Pay no attention, it's gibberish. For many comfortable decades the only truly distinct "cultural" traits of the Welsh were apthy and a failure to produce anything remarkable. Now that Wales is taking itself seriously, it still refuses to produce anything remarkable, but one is required to believe in its special qualities, which when all is said and done are about as special as the emperor's new clothes.

You will, from time to time, meet interesting, attractive, pleasant Welsh people. But you have to look outside Wales to find them - they're the escapees who dared to look beyond the "wonders" of their homeland.
(No I don't mean me - I'm just a grumpy Welsh bugger who rerfuses to play along)

Answer 2

i can honestly state that i have met some excellent welsh people,i lived in wales for a good few years my daughter and son were born in wales thier passport says country of birth wales, uk ,they speak welsh, most english people are a of the opinion that welsh people can be rude by speaking thier own tongue in thier country,i find that amazing,i have no doubt that you have met many welsh you did not like,as well as many scots,irish pakistanis,polish,chechs,americans
ect,ect.i know that a lot of folk from cheshire have an issue with the welsh,but i have noticed the deeper you go into wales the nicer they become,you will find in places like ryll,llandudno, what i call tourist welsh,they live in these places full of english,who own all the hotels ,fun fairs the shops ect ect ,is it any wonder you get an attitude when they hear your accent. they are hard pressed to be able to buy a home because of the inflated prices with the other nationalities purchasing the small cottages as second homes, the work they do in the north is predominatley based upon the tourist industry need i say more , i am not welsh,
but have taken the time to learn welsh. bora da, LF

Answer 3

Just like any group of people there are nice Welsh people and bad ones too. I should know, I am Welsh! I think you have just been unfortunate to be honest, we are proud of being Welsh and those who live near the border (near you in Cheshire for instance) may be a bit more sensitive about the Welsh/English divide. Try South Wales people, we don't tend to be so nationalist and a bit more accomodating (but we do still have bad apples too!).

Just a thought!

Answer 4

Apart from anything else, you misunderstand the word 'nationalist'.
If the usage is that one who dislikes the welsh people is called a racist, then that is the usage.
If you live in Cheshire you might be more exposed to the North Welsh. The South Welsh are different.

Answer 5

Why do the English think that they arre the centre of the universe? Just because someone is from Wales, doesn't make them a bad person. On the contrary. They are part of the celtic race and have a long and proud tradition. You could do well to remember that. I'm not welsh, but I have met some terric people from there. Warm and kind.
I like people for who they are too. But please do have respect for people from traditions other than your own!

Answer 6

I don't understand this. You begin with the assertion that the Welsh are not a race. Where do you get this view from? Is it one you have just made up? Come on. You can tell us.
My understanding is that the Welsh have always been recognised as a people in their own right. To abuse them on this basis is wrong, no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it or name you want to call it. Of course, maybe they don't like you much either. But don't worry.They aren't being racist. Merely accurate.

Answer 7

I am Welsh but I think you've gone to the wrong parts. Being from South Wales it's common knowledge that North Wales people are very arrogant and not worth the time and effort. Try Sth Wales next time. Plus if BB's Glyn is anything to go by you're better off without them up there.

Answer 8

I've been there a couple of times. Never have I met such an unwelcoming and unsocial bunch of people in all my born days. Even the hotelier once complained that one of his (paying!) guests was making too much noise with his knife and fork at the breakfast table because it might disturb his young baby. We soon put a stop to that by telling him that WE were paying HIM and if he chose to shag, that was his business, not ours, and therefore we would ALL make as much noise as we thought reasonable at a breakfast table. (Actually, it worked wonders that we'd all had a go at him because suddenly the evening meals were 50% bigger!).
Of course, it goes without saying that wherever we went they all spoke Welsh to each other so that we couldn't understand what they were saying to each other about us, but they had no difficulty speaking good English when it came to taking our money!

Answer 9

my guess is that the welsh are no more rude than people of any other nationality. av met nice welsh folk, av met offish welsh folk.

am from the north of england, and we are portrayed as uncouth, beer swilling, violent idiots. i like to think none of these words apply to me generally, but there is such a culture here in some ways. even so, am guessing yobs come about in every walk of life, not just northerners: we are not arl rough, gruff and grim.

people are people.

Answer 10

I'm not Welsh, but I know a few. They are great people with warm hearts and a rich cultural heretage. Great singers too. Very similar to their Celtic brothers the Irish.