Why do christians think they have a right to tell people not to get abortions?

Question

People have civil liberties, this is a free country. Conservative christians have no right whatsoever telling people without their beliefs what to do because "their" religion thinks it's wrong. People who do things against your bible are adults, and do not need daddy/mommy telling them what to do. Why don't you just back off and keep all your garbage at church?

John: I was referring to passing laws against civil rights such as abortion and gay marriage.

SPLATT, get real, a fetus isn't even a human being yet

John: Separation fo church and state.

WE are the ones picking religion apart, the 1st amendment does not benifit you as atheists are increasing, not dying in numbers in America. The opposite is happening to christians. Do some research on a search engine

Answer 1

Because they are ignorant, uneducated fools who have nothing better to do than harass people.

SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!

"Pro-lifers" (or ANTI-CHOICERS) are ignorant, uneducated, and CONTRADICTORY. They are not really pro-life as they claim to be.

If they were pro-life, they would NOT support a war killing thousands of REAL, INNOCENT children as opposed to an insignificant embryo or fetus. (The majority of pro-lifers are conservative republicans who SUPPORT the war.)

If they were pro-life, they would not support killing animals just to satisfy their taste buds, or to make a fashion statement (furs, animal skins, etc).

If they were pro-life, they would not kill insects.

If they were pro-life, they would not support "pro-lifers" who bomb abortion clinics, kill doctors who perform abortions, harass innocent employees at abortion clinics, nor would they do it themselves.

If they were pro-life, they would not support the dealth penalty.

If they were pro-life, they would adopt many many children since they supposedly "care so much" and want to make sure that all people considering abortions carry the pregnancy to term and give the child up for adoption.

If they were pro-life, they would NEVER make statements like "you should have been aborted".

If they were pro-life, they would be genuinely nice and understanding, and they would NEVER gossip about people, insult people, or hate people. Why are some pro-lifers SO mean? If they really cared about the lives of others, would they be mean, and judgemental? No, they wouldn't! Why aren't they nice to everyone? Since they are mean to people and hate people, that means it wouldn't matter to them if those people died, So why do they care about the lives of certain "people", and not others? That's not fair, and that's contradictory.

MY body, MY life, MY reproductive system, MY fetuses and embryos, MY business, MY choice.

Since when is a piece of flesh more important than a grown woman? Who cares if it has a heartbeat? The fetus or embryo may have a heartbeat, but that is NOT life. It is not a baby until it is viable. It can not survive without the mother's body, and the mother should not be forced to have her body used as an incubator. It's HER body. Forcing a woman to carry a child she does not want is more disgusting than rape. Statistics show that women who had forced pregnancies and gave their children up for adoption suffer more than women who have been raped. Rape is a quick thing. If you were already sexually active before being raped, it will not be so hard to deal with. But having to carry an unwanted child for 9 months and then having to give it up? That's extremely painful physically and emotional. That is over 9 months of physical struggles, and a lifetime of emotional struggles.

Also, the fetus may be "alive", but is it life? No! It's not. It is not yet living a real life. It is just a piece of flesh with a heartbeat. I can think of MANY more things with a heart beat which pro-lifers do NOT care about.

Did you know that illnesses are LIVING ORGANISMS? Yes, AIDS, and CANCER are LIVING. Does that mean that you should live with them, and let yourself die?

Did you know that tumors have PULSES? Yes, tumors have pulses and they are LIVING ORGANISMS. Does that mean you should let the tumor destroy your body?

I have plenty more examples showing how pro-lifers are contradictory, but I won't waste time.

We all know pro-lifers are uneducated, ignorant, and the only purpose of their life is to follow their bullsh*t religion so they can get to "heaven". They haven't got minds of their own, and are gullible enough to believe what the bible has to say.

The arguments pro-lifers make about abortion are wrong, anyway. They ALWAYS mention "God" when debating about abortion. WELL PRO-LIFERS, GUESS WHAT? You're wrong! There is NO proof of "God" therefore the "facts" you provide are FICTION!

Every pro-lifer should get a life, and leave everybody alone. My body is none of their business. My reproductive system is none of their business. My fetuses and embryos are none of their business. Have they nothing better to do than harass people all day? Are they THAT pathetic, and bored?

ALL pro-lifers are contradictory and their arguments are ridiculous. They say the stupidest things like:

"Why kill an innocent baby when you can give it to a family that wants kids but can't have kids?"

-First of all, other families are none of my business. Why should I waste 9 months of my life going through physical and emotional hell just so I can make a random couple happpy?
Second of all, There are already SO many unwanted children in this world. There are so many orphanages and foster homes, and NOBODY cares about the children in them. If there were really "SO many people who want kids but cant have them", then there wouldn't be any unwanted children out there!
Why bring another unwanted children into this already over-populated world?
Also, why don't pro-lifers adopt a few children themselves?
...I just proved that pro-lifers don't know what they are talking about and that they are CONTRADICTORY.


"if you're not ready for a child, you're not ready for sex! if you're not ready to face the consequences, don't spread your legs!"

-That is NOT true. Sex is a natural, beautiful, pleasurable thing which everybody should experience whether they are ready for children or not. Having children is not the only purpose of sex. If sex existed solely for reproducing, then orgasms would not exist! Sex is here for us to enjoy, not only to have children.
Also, there are SO many people who already have a few children, are happily married, but are NOT ready for more children. For example, Would you say that a middle aged woman who has children and is married but is NOT emotionally, physically, and financially ready for another child is not ready for sex? Of course you wouldn't! But of course that woman still has sex despite the fact that she's not ready for more children.
...Once again, I have proved that pro-lifers don't know what they are talking about and that they are contradictory.


"if you saw somebody trying to kill their child in the street of course you would do something about it"

-Yes, i'd do something about it, but that is totally irrelevant. That has NOTHING to do with abortion.
You can NOT compare a real child to a fetus or embryo.
Who cares if you terminate a pregnancy when the fetus or embryo can't feel anything and is NOT aware of anything occuring as opposed to a child that can feel and is aware?
It has been scientifically proven that a fetus can NOT feel anything before 20 weeks. 90% of abortions are terminated long before 20 weeks; long before the fetus can feel anything.
Even if a woman has an abortion after 20 weeks when the fetus can feel, who cares? The emotional and physical pain the mother goes through is much worse than the pain the fetus is going through. The fetus will only "feel pain" for a short while as opposed to a woman who will feel pain and discomfort for over 9 months. Also, the fetus's brain is not developed enough to acknowledge the situation. Why do you think nobody remembers being in their mother's stomach?
...Once again, I have proved pro-lifers wrong.

"what if your baby wouldve found the cure for aids or cancer?!?!"

-There are "what ifs" in EVERY situation no matter how minor or major it is. You can NOT justify something or say something is wrong based on "what ifs".
Here is a question I have for you, pro-lifers: "What if the baby would've been the next hitler?"
...Once again, MY argument WINS.


For the men: You don't have a right to oppose abortion, and you do NOT have the right to speak out against it. You also do NOT have the right to criticise women who have had abortions.
Let me tell you when you will be able to oppose abortion. You will be able to oppose abortion the day your PENIS turns into a VAGINA, the day you GROW A UTERUS, the day you get a MENSTRUAL PERIOD, the day your body CHANGES TO ACCOMODATE AN EMBRYO OR FETUS INSIDE OF IT, and the day YOU GET PREGNANT. That is the day you will be allowed to speak out against abortion. Too bad that will NEVER happen, so keep your ignorant opinions to yourself.

Answer 2

I agree with you that christians are trying to impose their rules on everybody else, but they do have valid points against abortion. I'm not saying it should be illegal because everyone has the right to choose, I'm just saying I don't think it's right. Unless you are raped you do have a choice, you have the choice to not have sex or you have the choice to use birth control. Either works great and would greatly reduce the need for abortion in the first place. Women need to open their eyes and take responsibilities for their actions. If she has sex, she should choose to face the consequences and not take the easy way out. Even if she doesn't want to raise the child, there are many couples waiting to adopt because they can't conceive themselves. And please don't tell me that fetuses are not human beings. If you've seen a picture of a baby aborted at 8 weeks, it already has arms, legs, 10 fingers, 10 toes and even a heart! If that's not true human life, then I don't know what is. I'm just asking you to take these points into consideration. I'm not saying we should outlaw abortion, just make it so it doesn't have to happen so often and possibly discourage it.

Answer 3

If you believe in civil liberties, than surely you believe that everyone has a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, right? Why do you want to deny the right to life to the most innocent, defenseless people group among us? This need have nothing to do with religion. Are you aware that there are groups of pro-life atheists? See, for example, http://godlessprolifers.org

If this is a totally free country, than why don't we do away with all laws, including laws against child abuse, child molestation, and rape? After all, these are all "personal choices," right? Who are we to say that these "choices" are wrong?

Scientifically speaking, every abortion kills a living human being. Most abortionists will not commit abortion before 7 weeks due to the risk of "incomplete abortion" (parts of the baby being left inside the womb). By 7 weeks, the child has a beating heart, recordable brain waves, tiny fingers, and possibly the ability to feel pain. If you doubt this, take a look at:

Photos of Abortions, Including 1st Trimester Abortions:
http://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html

A Four-Minute, Must-See Video on Abortion:
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html

Photos and Facts About Prenatal Development:
http://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-2-prenatal.html
http://www.studentsforlife.uct.ac.za/foetal%20dev%20photos.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm

Pain Perception in the Unborn:
http://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html

Most people with your level of hostility against pro-lifers have been involved in an abortion at some point. If this is the case, I recommend http://www.healinghearts.org

Answer 4

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Answer 5

You said that "Conservative christians have no right whatsoever telling people without their beliefs what to do because "their" religion thinks it's wrong."

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!

They have every right to say what ever they please and as loudly and as frequent as they like and if you don't like it than that just to bad.

Its the the First Amendment buddy and it applies to everyone, not just those who agree with your view points.


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm

Answer 6

Its because they think they are the one and only true religion and if it says its wrong then its wrong.. hmm isnt this the same concept that muslims use for attacking.. Geese I hope somone doesnt write another bible where it says kill then were in big trouble.

Answer 7

Good point, but it's not just christians it's mostly everybody! I think if abortion is o.k that means we can go around and kill whoever we want, it's the same thing. A Fetus is a life you're here right. . . . Well you were a fetus. If your mommy got an abortion you would'nt be here now what right does she have to take your life unless you don't care about living. . . . Do you? I'm not being religious I'm just trying to make a point!

Answer 8

It's none of their business, most Christians are uneducated anyway, they're so dumb, they murder the abortion doctor's in the hopes of saving some cells (a fetus), eye for an eye, God was against that.

I think there would be more peace in this world if we all kept our nose out of the privacy of others.

Christians are bigots!

Answer 9

When someone sees an injustice done they have a responsibility to speak up, so when someone murders a baby we have to say something or else be guilty ourselves.
Jesus said to go into the world not just church

Answer 10

This is a huge issue in this country, which becomes less free by the day, by the way.
They're really tring to overthrow Roe. vrs. Wade.
Its bad and counter productive.
What can we do to help?
www.votetoimpeach.org