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Most muslims support terrorists indirectly in the name of their religion.

2006-08-22 13:50:03 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

I JUST received the same e-mail, from 2 different people. It was in regard to the Muslim religion, which is, undisputedly the FASTEST growing religion, in the United States! I didn't know that. An "IMAM" which is the equivalent of a "priest" or "minister" spoke to a group of people, at a diversity training. A Roman Catholic priest and a Protestant minister did so, as well. To sum it up, after the three completed their respective explanations of the basics of each religion, there was a question and answer session. A member of the group asked the "imam": "So, let me get this straight. You are commanded, by Allah, to KILL ALL INFIDELS, in order to get into Heaven?" He answered "YES!" The group member then asked him to please define "infidel." The "imam" said "NON-BELIEVERS!" without hesitating. SO......if you or I do not believe in "ALLAH" and his commandments, we are target practice, for Muslims. That's what it boils down to, according to an actual Muslim leader and follower of allah. This is one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard. Ask a Muslim. Truly, ask one. I don't care what someone's faith is, usually. The pope, or Billy Graham, though, would NOT tell you that JESUS wants Catholics or Protestants to KILL people of other religions, if they want to go to heaven. That's for certain. They would tell you that you ARE going to Heaven, and that you should LOVE your "neighbor" (people of all religions) so that they, also, might go to heaven, It's really given me something to think about. Be well.

2006-08-22 13:59:01 · answer #2 · answered by patterson589@sbcglobal.net 3 · 1 1

do we need to do the: are they terrorists or are they freedom fighters dance yet again? the islamists who claim that they are determined to do whatever needs to be done to make the planet a muslim one are terrorists. the persians who claim that israel will be wiped off the map (and we will do it?) would be terrorists., etc. the main point is : when are the "middle eastern types", of any and all ethnicities and religions going to act like adults and negotiate as opposed to murdering one another. the arabs, when they have no jews, persians or kurds to attack, murder each other. and have done so for at least 1000years. and, obviously are doing so as we speak, in iraq. how about it, already? :-)

2006-08-22 13:53:04 · answer #3 · answered by drakke1 6 · 1 1

every group - muslims, shahids, lawabiding muslims, mexicans, illegal immigrants, americans, nazis - contains a range of people - each has to be judged individually

one person is in the group for the chance to be sadistic - another is there because too afraid not to be

2006-08-22 15:02:03 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

"Those who partake of this elixir of duty as is taught herein with faith, being solely absorbed in Me- such devotees are exceedingly dear to Me. "

__ Lord Krishna

"Those who hear this talk of yoga, which is sweet like a shower of nectar and accords with duty and turn it into self-experience, develop an expanding faith and respect for yoga and practice it, after holding it securely in their heart. If they have attained a state of mind as described by me, they realise its fruit as from the best seed sown in a fertile field.

But only those who bear loving devotion towards me and regard me as their all-in-all and as their ultimate goal, are my true devotees and yogis and it is for them that I feel a strong longing. Those who are fond of hearing tales of devotion, are the holy waters, the sacred places and the holy ones.

I meditate on them, they are the objects of my worship, and I hold none else as superior to them. I am extremely fond of them, who are our treasure and I find great satisfaction in meeting them. But, O Arjuna, I esteem those who take delight in recounting the tales of devotees as great gods.

Thus spoke Mukunda, the primal seed of the universe, the giver of joy to his devotees, said Sanjaya to Dhritarashtra. He added: O King, the Lord of Vaikuntha who is pure and perfect, merciful to the people, protector of those who have surrendered to him and are At for such surrender, whose constant sport is to render help to gods, to cherish and protect the worlds and those who have submitted to him, who is famous as the saviour of religion, who is the same to all because of his boundless generosity, who although powerful, became the bondman of Bali, who is compassionate to his devotees and frank with those who love him, who is the bridge which goes starlight to the Truth, and the very treasure-house of arts, is speaking and lucky Arjuna is listening. Now I shall continue the tale, which Lord Krishna will recount to Arjuna, so said Sanjaya to Dhritarashtra.

Jnanadeva says, listen to the same story, which will be translated in Marathi. I have been taught by my Guru Nivrittinatha to render this service to you."

____ From Bhagavad Gita ( Jnaneswari)

luv and SAI RAM,
jk
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2006-08-22 22:40:10 · answer #5 · answered by jayakrishnaathmavidya 4 · 0 0

A mujahid fights in a jihad. A shahid is a mujahid who has died in a jihad.

Let's make Venn diagrams. Not all terrorists are Muslims, not all Muslims are terrorists, not all Muslims are Arabs. Not all Arabs are Muslims.

Not all Muslims speak Arabic. Allah is the Arabic (not Muslim) word for God. Arab Christians like Lebanese Maronites and Iraqis Chaldeans call on Allah.

OK, let's play with statistics. A tenth of a percent of 1.2 billion is 120,000. Which is still a lot of terrorists. Even a hundreth of a percent is 12,000 terrorists. Which I think is still a lot of terrorists.

If we group people according to race or eye-color or soda preference or even by most religions, if we make generalizations, they are usually faulty. This is why we learn not to make generalizations about a group of people. If we study Muslims and Islam, however, we can make some observations, that do apply to the group as a whole. Making these observations may help us to stay safe -- which is why it makes good sense to examine whether Muslims AS A GROUP are a threat to the safety and security of non-Muslims..

Now, with that out of the way, let me explain about the LAW-ABIDING Muslims.

But first, let's preface my remarks with a poem by Robbie Burns:
(which even can be applied to today's terrorists)

"On Thanksgiving For A National Victory"

Ye hypocrites are these your pranks
to murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame proceed no further
God does ne want your thanks for murder

OK -- it is not a short explanation but here goes...

I live in SE Michigan where there is the largest concentration of Muslims outside the Middle East.

The Muslims who are NOT terrorists may be just as much a threat as the ones who are.

Do you know what taqiyah is?
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm

See these video clips of the baby suicide bombers (shaheed). The children are dressed in normal clothes but they talk with such zeal about becoming a shaheed and they spew hatred for Jews and non-Muslims. This is SCARY for real...
http://www.memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165
See also
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38826
Photos of children
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~nahm0002/child_abuse.html

Muslims begin indoctrinating their children from toddlerhood to fight against the kuffar (unbelievers).

Islam is a totalitarian religion that demands world dominance and destruction of kafir (non-Muslim) countries. Islam demands total submission to the religion, nothing less. The Islamic doctrine of Al Taqiyah (dissimulation) hides this fact. That is why scholars say that Islam is a religion of peace and jihad just means to struggle.
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm

I will quote some verses from the Qur'an. I admit that the verses are taken out of context but since I have given the citation and here are 2 places to read the entire chapter online,
http://www.quranbrowser.org
http://www.quransearch.com

Please feel free to read the whole context of the quote. See if it makes a difference.

The verb qatala means to fight and kill. Such as in the phrase ..
Qur'ān Sura Barã´ah 9:29
Fight against the people of the book, those of them who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, who do not forbid that which Allah and His messenger have forbidden, and who do not follow the religion of truth (Islam). (Fight against them) till they (agree to) pay ‘jazia’ (the submission tribute) and accept an inferior status (with humiliation and submission to the government of Islam.) (Munir Munshey trans.)

“a holy war through financial means” ( Al-Jihad bil-Mal ).
Muslims that are NOT terrorists do contribute money directly to terrorist organizations. Yes, some do get caught and some do not.

Most Muslims contribute money to so-called charity organizations and sometimes the money finds its way to terrorists.
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/293
http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/3_05/charity_2.htm
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2004/1207global.html

Muslims are threatening to the culture in which they come to live. They do not assimilate. They reform the culture to suit them.

Muslims use the legal system to have the call to prayer (azan) mandated by law to be broadcast on loudspeakers from 6 am to10 pm 5 times daily (EVERY DAY). Muslims use the legal system to have "halal" food subsidized by the federal government in the public (free school for everyone) school lunch program. Muslims use the government medical system to have their children but raise the children in the Middle East. Muslims circumvent the tax code to smuggle cigarettes and other goods from one place to another taking advantage of the tax differential.

Some people jokingly call Dearborn, Michigan --- Dearbornistan. Here are some excerpts from an article by Debbie Schlussel:

"Bint Jebail--also spelled "Bint Jbeil"--located in southern Lebanon and very close to the border, is the key Hezbollah stronghold. It is the site from which much shelling of rockets and missiles, onto Northern Israel and beyond, emanates. Thousands of Detroit area Muslims (the majority of whom are Shi'ite) come from the Bint Jbeil area, and they support Hezbollah. Bint Jbeil's Mayor, Haj Ali Bazzi, is a U.S. citizen, with a Michigan Driver's License and an American passport. "

"The Bint Jebail Cultural Center was founded in Dearborn, Michigan in 1994. Incredibly, American taxpayers subsidize this "cultural center," since it has 501(c)(3) tax-deductible status. In 2004, the year of its last tax return on file, the club spent over $85,000 on "cultural and religious seminars and lectures," most of them extremist....While it operates mostly as a banquet facility, the Bint Jebail Cultural Center is also used as a frequent meeting place for Hezbollah supporters and a locale for pro-Hezbollah rallies that frequently feature anti-American and anti-Christian hate, not just anti-Semitism."

But then there is Hamtramck, Michigan too. A delightful place to visit. It was the Al Islah mosque (recently built across the street from St. Stanislaus Catholic church) that petitioned the court to allow it to broadcast the azan (call to prayer) 5 times a day EVERY day from 6 am to 10 pm. If you come to Hamtramck you can see Muslim women in the full head-to-toe black abayah and some even have the niqab (face veil). By contrast, in Dearborn, the women dress more freely in the colored headscarf and jilbab (like a raincoat.)

I think another person answered about Osma Sabhi Abulhassan and Ali Hussaki who were arrested in their Mrs. Hussaki's mother's car with the Metro Detroit airport logo (she works there). The Dearbornistan duo had cell phones, cash and maps of WallMarts. Who knows how the cell phone chip can be modified by a JTAG TAP to set off a primer?

Then there are the Hezbollah supporters who smuggle cigarettes from North Carolina and other states and sell them in Michigan (which has a higher tax).

Oh yes, the women who come to the Middle East to have their babies in Dearborn so they will have a US birth certificate. Mike Cox has prosecuted a few for Medicaid fraud.

I am not sure of the outcome of the court case to have federally funded "halal" food served for breakfast and lunch to Dearborn school children or whether a multi-purpose room has been provided for Friday prayer. Dearborn has enacted legislation for government and schools to close on Muslim holidays.

Many Dearborn residents are vehemently anti-American.

Muslims have a SACRED DUTY to rid the world of fitnah. Sayyid Qutb, an Islamic scholar, writes that the world would be a utopia under Islamic theocracy. Islam is a political as well as a religious system.

There are two Arabic verbs that are translated as "fight" in English - jahada is struggle and fight, qatala is fight and kill

Qur'ān Sura Al-Anfãl 8:39 {Eng, Ar, transliteration}:
So fight (kill) them (unbelievers) until there is no more fitnah (disbelief or worship of any god but Allah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)" ... "And fight with them until there is no more fitnah (persecution) and religion should be only for Allah

وَقَتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لَا تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ الدِّينُ كُلُّهُ لِلَّهِ فَإِنْ انتَهَوْا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ بِمَا يَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ

Waqatiloohum hatta la takoona fitnatun wayakoona alddeenu kulluhu lillahi fa-ini intahaw fa-inna Allaha bima yaAAmaloona baseerun

Allah commands deeds of terror by the believers against the unbelievers as the means of creating the emotion of terror in their hearts. The only reason needed for action is that "they resisted Allah and His Messenger". Such an approach to "conflict management" is nothing to be ashamed about according to Islamic understanding, but it is a basis for pride. According to Islam, it is one reason for the superiority of Muhammad over all other prophets.

Qur'ān Sura Ãli-´Imrãn 3:151
We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, since they set up besides GOD powerless idols. Their destiny is Hell; what a miserable abode for the transgressors! (Khalifa trans.)

سَنُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ بِمَا اشْرَكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَنًا وَمَاوَهُمْ النَّارُ وَبِئْسَ مَثْوَى الظَّلِمِينَ

Sanulqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba bima ashrakoo biAllahi ma lam yunazzil bihi sultanan wama/wahumu alnnaru wabi/sa mathwa alththalimeena

Qur'ān Sura Al-Anfãl (8):12-13
Recall that your Lord inspired the angels: "I am with you; so support those who believed. I will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved. You may strike them above the necks, and you may strike even every finger. This is what they have justly incurred by fighting GOD and His messenger. For those who fight against GOD and His messenger, GOD's retribution is severe. (Khalifa trans.)

إِذْ يُوحِي رَبُّكَ إِلَى الْمَلَئِكَةِ أَنِّي مَعَكُمْ فَثَبِّتُوا الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا سَأُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ فَاضْرِبُوا فَوْقَ الْأَعْنَاقِ وَاضْرِبُوا مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ
ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ شَاقُّوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَمَنْ يُشَاقِقْ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ

Ith yoohee rabbuka ila almala-ikati annee maAAakum fathabbitoo allatheena amanoo saolqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba faidriboo fawqa al-aAAnaqi waidriboo minhum kulla bananin. Thalika bi-annahum shaqqoo Allaha warasoolahu waman yushaqiqi Allaha warasoolahu fa-inna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi

Qur'ān Surah Al-Anfãl (8): 59-60
Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (Yusuf Ali trans.)

وَلَا يَحْسَبَنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَبَقُوا إِنَّهُمْ لَا يُعْجِزُونَ
وَأَعِدُّوا لَهُمْ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُمْ مِنْ قُوَّةٍ وَمِنْ رِبَاطِ الْخَيْلِ تُرْهِبُونَ بِهِ عَدُوَّ اللَّهِ وَعَدُوَّكُمْ وَءاخَرِينَ مِنْ دُونِهِمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَهُمْ اللَّهُ يَعْلَمُهُمْ وَمَا تُنفِقُوا مِنْ شَيْءٍ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ يُوَفَّ إِلَيْكُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تُظْلَمُونَ

Wala yahsabanna allatheena kafaroo sabaqoo innahum la yuAAjizoona. WaaAAiddoo lahum ma istataAAtum min quwwatin wamin ribati alkhayli turhiboona bihi AAaduwwa Allahi waAAaduwwakum waakhareena min doonihim la taAAlamoonahumu Allahu yaAAlamuhum wama tunfiqoo min shay-in fee sabeeli Allahi yuwaffa ilaykum waantum la tuthlamoona

Qur'ān Sura al-Hujurat (49):15
Mumim (true Muslims) believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and without doubt they strive in the cause of Allah( jihad fee Sybil Allah) with their wealth and their lives. Those! They are the sincere.

إِنَّمَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَرْتَابُوا وَجَهَدُوا بِأَمْوَلِهِمْ وَأَنفُسِهِمْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمْ الصَّدِقُونَ

Innama almu/minoona allatheena amanoo biAllahi warasoolihi thumma lam yartaboo wajahadoo bi-amwalihim waanfusihim fee sabeeli Allahi ola-ika humu alssadiqoona

2006-08-22 13:57:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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