People say "patriotism" is admirable but "nationalism" is not. Is either accceptable?

Question

If you are proud of aspects of your own culture, are you not implicitly stating other cultures don't have these characteristics so are inferior?.

We Brits, say we are proud of our sense of "fair play" - are we not saying other countries don't have such concepts?

(I think the Palestinians would question our assertions on "fair play", btw.)

Thanks, Proud Republican, but why would you be proud of something if other countries have it too?

Answer 1

seems like you are saying if one nation has a certain"concept" then no one else can have it.
I find it is not limited to one country to have the same "concept".
Therefore more than 1 nation can and does have the sense of "FAIR PLAY" at the same period in time.
The answer to your question is no .You are simply pointing out a characteristic you feel is worthy of note

Answer 2

Patriotism and nationalism are both important for a nations longevity and well-being.

Countries that lose this identity are more likely to succumb to the globalists who would rather see borders ands cultures eliminated for the sake of profit for a few and control of the rest, as is taking place around the world - specificaly the EU, who's citizens weren't told that their nations will no longer be sovereign when the 2003 EU Constitution is fully ratified.

Of course there are many countries who are patriotic yet don't realize that their governments are committing heinous acts because heavily controlled media keeps them blind to reality. The US is a perfect example of that. We have a government that is usurped by corporate run parties with a leftist globalist agenda. They use their corporate owned media to lie and whitewash every atrocious act and to convince unaware Americans that they're the "good guys".

It's a very dangerous situation when a large percentage of a nation is deceived. Our very patriotism could be the tool used by the globalists in power to bring us to our knees - which is a requirement to create a single global economy as promised by President George Bush. No country can remain on top.

Answer 3

Patriotism in its best sense means public or country-mindedness. Nationalism is too strong - sounds like speaking of "the fatherland" in Germany.
You know republicans are patriots because everytime you see them on tv now they are wrapped up in American flags.
George Bush is not a nationalist because he has no country.

Answer 4

Being loyal to your family or being proud of your town is natural and positive. As soon as it develops into national pride, it boarders on nationalism and automatically invokes the "we are better then the others" syndrome. American recent history is a good example of this.

Answer 5

It is easy to read words without knowing how corrupt language can be. Most people “know” that God is on the side of justice. However, in America “justice” is defined according to American standard. The media act as a megaphone for those in power to propagate America’s “justice” and America’s “divine mission” or the “messianic mission”, as it is called in mainstream media, to bring “democracy” to the Middle East and the world.

The American war on Vietnam that killed more than 3 million Vietnamese people was portrayed in America as a “just war” to “defend” the world from the threat of communism. The opposite was true. Many years later America’s elites acknowledged that the war on Vietnam “was a mistake”. It was one big atrocity. The U.S. army was forced to leave Vietnam. America’s imperialism in Vietnam has suffered a stunning defeat at the hand of peasant and defenceless people. The result of the war was: Vietnam is a country left shattered and its people suffering from America’s immoral war.

For more than a decade the U.S. is engaged in an illegal war against Iraq. In 1991, the U.S. orchestrated the first U.S. war on Iraq, followed by more than twelve years of genocidal sanctions and bombing, which decimated the Iraqi society, and took the lives of more than two million Iraqis.

According to UNICEF, the sanctions against Iraq resulted in the death of 500,000 Iraqi children under the age of 5 years old. In May 1996, “60 Minutes” correspondent Lesley Stahl asked Madeline Albright, US Ambassador to the UN: “We have heard that half a million children have died [as a result of sanctions]. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it”? Albright responded: “I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it”. UNICEF estimated that the under-5 infant mortality in Iraq in 2001 was 109,000, which has a population of 24 million, compared with about 1000 in Australia, which has a population of 20 million. Iraqi death toll is not being reported and publicly discussed, fearing it will amount to genocidal war crimes against those responsible for the wars .

To increase the destruction and atrocities wrought by the sanctions, the U.S. and Britain continued to bomb Iraqi infrastructure for thirteen years. Professor Joy Gordon quotes a Pentagon official: “What we were doing with the attacks on infrastructure was to accelerate the effect of the sanctions”. Many thousands of children died as a result of contaminated water and the inability of hospitals to function without electricity and running water. What right does America has to destroy nations and killed so many innocent human beings?

My advice to Americans is to take a hard look in the mirror, and ask yourselves why your country is committing horrendous terrorist acts on the soils of other countries. The destruction of Iraq and the horror brought forth by American war on the Iraqi people, and America’s other countless atrocities rob America of all moral authority and idealism.

Answer 6

everything in moderation

if you offer blind allegiance you become the fool.