when are logical thinking and imagination not connected?

Question

can they operate by themselves, or are they dependant on each other in all situations?

Answer 1

Imagination helps us create ideas and logical thinking helps refine those ideas into workable solutions. They work together to help us to make the best of our knowledge.

I think they are dependent on each other.

Answer 2

Interpretation....

It depends solely on your opinion, what do you consider logical? From a scientific perspective the part of the brain that controls imagination transmits the data to the part of the brain that controls logic. This part of the brain will either dismiss the thought or add it into its pool of acceptance (i.e., religion, politics). However, each individual deduces differently. This process is not the exact same in everyone. Hence, it solely depends on your interpretation.

Answer 3

Logic cannot exist without imagination. It is based upon things which don't really exist, or rather: it is based upon *things*, which don't really exist. "Things" - like particles, moments, and individuals - are human fictions. Likewise cause and effect.

"Logic is bound to the condition: assume there are identical cases. In fact, to make possible logical thinking and inferences, this condition must first be treated fictitiously as fulfilled."
[Nietzsche, The Will to Power, section 512.]

One apple plus one apple equals two apples - is this a case of a+a=2a? No, because no two apples are exactly alike. What, then, about one quantum plus one quantum equals two quanta? The same applies here, as no one can measure two exactly equal quanta. The assumption of equal quanta and identical apples is a *simplification*, that is, a falsification.

"[T]he will to logical truth can be carried through only after a fundamental *falsification* of all events is assumed. From which it follows that [...] logic does *not* spring from will to truth."
[Nietzsche, ibid.]

Answer 4

Imagination is not restricted by proven facts and experience. Logical thinking is restricted by facts. All decisions in logical thinking whether wrong or right are based upon some empirical facts or atleast intepretation of those facts
Imagination is what you see on those people on american idol who think they can sing!

Answer 5

I would say in everyday mathematics they are not connected. It is just straight ahead logic based on predifined terms and functions.

Once you get into theoretical/abstract mathematics, however, you have to use your imagination to ponder new solutions to a problem.

Answer 6

Logical thinking is based on facts and deduced reasonings. Visual images or proofs are required. Imagination is a flight of fantasy. The realm or scope is limitless. Both are workings of the brain. But the two are not connected.

Answer 7

I must say that a couple of your responses are fairly well put but none actually answer the question you've presented. You are asking "when" which, indicates a time frame, is the logical thinking process, along with imagination not connected?

To answer your question properly we firstly need to define the agents of the subject Logic, and Imagination. However, there is a third agent that also must be presented to derive a conclusion from our definitions. This third agent is really the catalyst that allows the former two processes to operate within their own perspective fields of operation.

Firstly, Logic itself is restricted to that portion of our knowledge which consists of inferences from truths previously known; whether those antecedent data exist in general propositions or particular observations and perceptions. Logic, however, is not the same thing with knowledge, though the field of logic is coextensive with the field of knowledge. Logic is not the science of Belief, but the science of Proof, or Evidence.

Logic is a science of the operations of the understanding which are subservient to the estimation of evidence. Therefore, Logic is the common judge and arbiter of all particular investigations. It does not undertake to find evidence, but to determine whether it has been found. Logic neither observes, nor invents, nor discovers; but judges; both the process itself of advancing from known truths to unknown, and all other intellectual operations auxiliary to it including Imagination.

As you can see, your latter questions have been answered “Can Logic and Imagination act independently?” Yes, absolutely! And, “Is Imagination dependant on Logic in all situations?” No, absolutely! Obviously they are not since Imagination has not been presented as a truth nor proven to be an agent of knowledge. Since whatever is known to us by consciousness, is known beyond the possibility of question. What one sees or feels, whether bodily or mentally, one cannot but be sure that one sees or feels. There is no science required for the purpose of establishing such truths; no rules of art can render our knowledge of them more certain than it is in itself, (Its reality). There is no logic for this portion of our knowledge. Therefore this level of consciousness can be considered as part of the mental Imagination processes.

Imagination is actually used as a pivotal term. The theories about the activity of imagination are as widely varied as theories of sensibility. Some hold that Imagination is governed by the senses themselves; others define Imagination as the faculty that processes sensory data to produce a feeling response; still others see imagination not as coeval with sensibility, but as able to manipulate feeling in order to produce the creative work of art or the political work of compassion.

In any given discourse of sensibility, imagination tends to take on a stable, well-defined role which can be enhanced by the Logical chain of thought, yet it possesses the acute properties and possibility of spinning out of control.

Imagination then, places us at the threshold between our daily reality awareness and the dream world. If we are able to bring a degree of alertness and openness to that threshold, the dream world will reach out to meet us. The dream world provides us with its unique view on the world and we bring our questions (Reasoning), our capacity for learning (Logical), and our ability to be surprised (Spontaneity). This marriage, of inner world and outer world, can provide our lives with much needed insight, energy, passion, and meaning based on its personal value and Logical conclusions at the personal level (Truth).

The third agent, Reasoning now is the “when” in your question since reasoning in itself is a mental process which informs our imagination, our perceptions, our thoughts, and our feelings with whatever intelligibility these appear to contain; and thus links our experience with some conceptual universal meaning. At best, a cohesive understanding and agreement to the personal experience(s). Therefore Logic has not yet become an agent until an Evidence of this experience has become a Truth.

In conclusion, Reasoning precedes Imagination, and Imagination precedes Logic until a Truth has been found and established as a personal proof, truth, or Logic at the personal level. However, the sole object of Logic being the guidance of one's own thoughts: the communication of those thoughts to others in this situation often falls under the consideration of Rhetoric. I hope this helps your understanding.

Answer 8

When you are in a Lebanese bunker with your 3 kids and wife, and see drawn just moving on sky, and on your car no gas also you hear that last night the missile hit your friend’s car when they are fleeing.
And you knew bombs are coming from f17. Then.....

Answer 9

Logical thinking is fed by imagination. Unfortunately, so are logical fallacies.

Answer 10

all things pertaining to the mind are always connected, in fact, everything is connected to every other thing in one way or another...a disconnection is more of people's way of making themselves more important and others less important...