What I'd like to hear inner city women tell the Christian right wing about Abortion rights?

Question

Lately, anti-Abortion Activits have been targeting inner cities:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060820/ap_on_re_us/abortion_inner_cities


basically, I wish every woman who is for freedom to choose would stand up and tell these anti-abortion necons to:

SHUT THE F_ _ K UP !
IT IS MY BODY
IT IS MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE
YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER ME
UNTIL YOU START PAYING MY BILLS AND MY BABY'S BILLS YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO SAY TO ME.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANT DO?
YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME EXCEPT A WASTE OF THE 1ST AMENDMENT.


I want to see women stand up for their rights.
I want women to be empowered and unafraid to tell their government:

YOU ARE MY GOVERNMENT, YOU WORK FOR ME...

Answer 1

While I agree wholeheartedly on principle, and am STRONGLY pro-choice, what they fail to realize is that we have the CHOICE to choose or not to choose abortion as ONE OPTION. This right is, unfortunately, seriously jeopardized by the current Right-Wing administration's misuse of power and their control in the SUPREME COURT. Keep an eye out for all attacks on our liberties, NOT JUST this one.

I also need to state that, while I have made the choice (several years ago) to abort, I now regret it and wish that my circumstances were better. The condom broke. My family was physically abusive. I couldn't face giving my baby up for a blind adoption and not knowing if my baby would have had a better chance or not in life than I could provide.

Now, of course, there is also the option of an OPEN adoption, which would have allowed me the right to visitations and updates on my baby with a "shared" right with the adoptive parents. (I probably would have been seen as a "friend of the family" or something similar in relation to my child.) Do enough of us realize this option exists?

Answer 2

GET YOUR 'MORALS' OFF MY DEMOCRACY

If you want to destroy the free world to live in your 200o yr old imitation, outdated, middle eastern, fake religion then why be christian- go be a muslim: they have dozens of countries where you can live in your ideal society (don’t let the door hit you on the way out.) Not just the Christian right though, a lot of this cultural shift is from the over 30 million people who immigrated here illegally in the past 10 years. I hate people from third world countries that elevate themselves from 'worthless peasant' to 'god of this country' the minute they get here and want to change western civilization to suit their stupid religion or culture. If you don't like the renaissance or the enlightenment have the decency to realize that it keeps you alive, free, and fed. Which is a lot more than your god will do for you.
Anyhow, if you cant control your own body you’re not free. I don’t know any woman who uses abortion as birth control, but if the idea upsets you than promote condoms and sex ed. We have over 6 billion people - far beyond what can be sustained.
I think anyone who thinks a bunch of cells is a baby should go around collecting every maxi pad and used condom in the world and praying to them. Hold little funerals in your house, I'll mail you some. Also every crack addicted, incest or rape produced little halfwit, every starving third world country child - should be shipped directly to their doorstep and they should raise them from their own pockets, in their homes.

Answer 3

Maybe they wouldn't have as many issues if so many women didn't use abortion as birth control like it was nothing. Sure its your right to choose but carelessly getting pregnant when you don't want a child and then getting an abortion is ridiculous. Also many people believe that from the moment of conception it is a life (and I agree after personally seeing very early ultrasounds with the heartbeat and baby moving around)

Answer 4

Are you aware that abortionists target inner cities due to a racist agenda? See:

http://www.blackgenocide.org

I am against abortion in all circumstances, but I am NOT a neo-con. I didn't vote for Bush and I encouraged others not to vote for him. I am 100% against the war in Iraq.

When a woman aborts a child, her body is NOT the only body involved. Most babies are not aborted until at least 7 weeks, due to the risk of incomplete abortion (parts of the baby being left inside the womb). By that time, the baby has a beating heart, brain waves, and tiny fingers. No one has the right to "choose" to kill an innocent human being.

There is plenty of help for any woman in America who needs it. There are crisis pregnancy centers in nearly every community which give referrals for financial, legal, housing and medical assistance, provide free maternity and baby supplies, and come up with whatever kind of help a woman needs. (See http://www.optionline.org/advantage.asp ) I've seen pro-lifers outside abortion facilities pull out their wallets and checkbooks when a woman changes her mind and lets her baby live. But even if there were no help available, poverty is no excuse for murder. Anyone who doubts that abortion is murder needs to see:

Photos of Abortions, Including 1st Trimester Abortions:
http://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html

A Four-Minute, Must-See Video on Abortion:
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html

Information on All Aspects of Abortion:
http://Abort73.com

Photos and Facts About Prenatal Development:
http://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-2-prenatal.html
http://www.studentsforlife.uct.ac.za/foetal%20dev%20photos.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm

Pain Perception in the Unborn:
http://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html

Governments are supposed to exist to protect the innocent, not to make killing legal.

Answer 5

This is such a subjective argument; on one hand you have a body of people incapable of understanding the idea of murdering an innocent life, on the other you have a group of people incapable of understanding why they can't make their own decisions as to how to govern their bodies.

The sad truth no matter which way a person decides to think on this topic, someone is going to be injured. There will always be extenuating circumstances and loopholes which will inevitably victimize someone.

Answer 6

Has it ever occurred to you that it doesn't matter what anyone says about it, we won't change our minds? The reason for that is because it is a deeply held spiritual belief of ours that God hates the shedding of innocent blood and we could never condone abortion. No tactful conversation or rude ranting and raving will change our minds, because it's not our minds that would have to be changed, it's our hearts.

Answer 7

Hahahaha, see the thing is we do pay for alot of babies that are born. I would rather do that than see babies murdered.

Also, i think the "CHOICE" comes in when you decide to be irresponsible with your actions.

condoms are a wonderful thing, not only are you protecting yourself from pregnancy, but also of disease.

Answer 8

You are a self center person who can't think about anyone but you! What about your baby's rights? What right do you have to take that baby's right away?

Answer 9

Don't listen to the judgemental pro-lifers on here.
"Pro-lifers" (or ANTI-CHOICERS) are ignorant, uneducated, and CONTRADICTORY. They are not really pro-life as they claim to be.

If they were pro-life, they would NOT support a war killing thousands of REAL, INNOCENT children as opposed to an insignificant embryo or fetus. (The majority of pro-lifers are conservative republicans who SUPPORT the war.)

If they were pro-life, they would not support killing animals just to satisfy their taste buds, or to make a fashion statement (furs, animal skins, etc).

If they were pro-life, they would not kill insects.

If they were pro-life, they would not support "pro-lifers" who bomb abortion clinics, kill doctors who perform abortions, harass innocent employees at abortion clinics, nor would they do it themselves.

If they were pro-life, they would not support the dealth penalty.

If they were pro-life, they would adopt many many children since they supposedly "care so much" and want to make sure that all people considering abortions carry the pregnancy to term and give the child up for adoption.

If they were pro-life, they would NEVER make statements like "you should have been aborted".

If they were pro-life, they would be genuinely nice and understanding, and they would NEVER gossip about people, insult people, or hate people. Why are some pro-lifers SO mean? If they really cared about the lives of others, would they be mean, and judgemental? No, they wouldn't! Why aren't they nice to everyone? Since they are mean to people and hate people, that means it wouldn't matter to them if those people died, So why do they care about the lives of certain "people", and not others? That's not fair, and that's contradictory.

MY body, MY life, MY reproductive system, MY fetuses and embryos, MY business, MY choice.

Since when is a piece of flesh more important than a grown woman? Who cares if it has a heartbeat? The fetus or embryo may have a heartbeat, but that is NOT life. It is not a baby until it is viable. It can not survive without the mother's body, and the mother should not be forced to have her body used as an incubator. It's HER body. Forcing a woman to carry a child she does not want is more disgusting than rape. Statistics show that women who had forced pregnancies and gave their children up for adoption suffer more than women who have been raped. Rape is a quick thing. If you were already sexually active before being raped, it will not be so hard to deal with. But having to carry an unwanted child for 9 months and then having to give it up? That's extremely painful physically and emotional. That is over 9 months of physical struggles, and a lifetime of emotional struggles.

Also, the fetus may be "alive", but is it life? No! It's not. It is not yet living a real life. It is just a piece of flesh with a heartbeat. I can think of MANY more things with a heart beat which pro-lifers do NOT care about.

Did you know that illnesses are LIVING ORGANISMS? Yes, AIDS, and CANCER are LIVING. Does that mean that you should live with them, and let yourself die?

Did you know that tumors have PULSES? Yes, tumors have pulses and they are LIVING ORGANISMS. Does that mean you should let the tumor destroy your body?

I have plenty more examples showing how pro-lifers are contradictory, but I won't waste time.

We all know pro-lifers are uneducated, ignorant, and the only purpose of their life is to follow their bullsh*t religion so they can get to "heaven". They haven't got minds of their own, and are gullible enough to believe what the bible has to say.

The arguments pro-lifers make about abortion are wrong, anyway. They ALWAYS mention "God" when debating about abortion. WELL PRO-LIFERS, GUESS WHAT? You're wrong! There is NO proof of "God" therefore the "facts" you provide are FICTION!

Every pro-lifer should get a life, and leave everybody alone. My body is none of their business. My reproductive system is none of their business. My fetuses and embryos are none of their business. Have they nothing better to do than harass people all day? Are they THAT pathetic, and bored?

ALL pro-lifers are contradictory and their arguments are ridiculous. They say the stupidest things like:

"Why kill an innocent baby when you can give it to a family that wants kids but can't have kids?"

-First of all, other families are none of my business. Why should I waste 9 months of my life going through physical and emotional hell just so I can make a random couple happpy?
Second of all, There are already SO many unwanted children in this world. There are so many orphanages and foster homes, and NOBODY cares about the children in them. If there were really "SO many people who want kids but cant have them", then there wouldn't be any unwanted children out there!
Why bring another unwanted children into this already over-populated world?
Also, why don't pro-lifers adopt a few children themselves?
...I just proved that pro-lifers don't know what they are talking about and that they are CONTRADICTORY.


"if you're not ready for a child, you're not ready for sex! if you're not ready to face the consequences, don't spread your legs!"

-That is NOT true. Sex is a natural, beautiful, pleasurable thing which everybody should experience whether they are ready for children or not. Having children is not the only purpose of sex. If sex existed solely for reproducing, then orgasms would not exist! Sex is here for us to enjoy, not only to have children.
Also, there are SO many people who already have a few children, are happily married, but are NOT ready for more children. For example, Would you say that a middle aged woman who has children and is married but is NOT emotionally, physically, and financially ready for another child is not ready for sex? Of course you wouldn't! But of course that woman still has sex despite the fact that she's not ready for more children.
...Once again, I have proved that pro-lifers don't know what they are talking about and that they are contradictory.


"if you saw somebody trying to kill their child in the street of course you would do something about it"

-Yes, i'd do something about it, but that is totally irrelevant. That has NOTHING to do with abortion.
You can NOT compare a real child to a fetus or embryo.
Who cares if you terminate a pregnancy when the fetus or embryo can't feel anything and is NOT aware of anything occuring as opposed to a child that can feel and is aware?
It has been scientifically proven that a fetus can NOT feel anything before 20 weeks. 90% of abortions are terminated long before 20 weeks; long before the fetus can feel anything.
Even if a woman has an abortion after 20 weeks when the fetus can feel, who cares? The emotional and physical pain the mother goes through is much worse than the pain the fetus is going through. The fetus will only "feel pain" for a short while as opposed to a woman who will feel pain and discomfort for over 9 months. Also, the fetus's brain is not developed enough to acknowledge the situation. Why do you think nobody remembers being in their mother's stomach?
...Once again, I have proved pro-lifers wrong.

"what if your baby wouldve found the cure for aids or cancer?!?!"

-There are "what ifs" in EVERY situation no matter how minor or major it is. You can NOT justify something or say something is wrong based on "what ifs".
Here is a question I have for you, pro-lifers: "What if the baby would've been the next hitler?"
...Once again, MY argument WINS.


For the men: You don't have a right to oppose abortion, and you do NOT have the right to speak out against it. You also do NOT have the right to criticise women who have had abortions.
Let me tell you when you will be able to oppose abortion. You will be able to oppose abortion the day your PENIS turns into a VAGINA, the day you GROW A UTERUS, the day you get a MENSTRUAL PERIOD, the day your body CHANGES TO ACCOMODATE AN EMBRYO OR FETUS INSIDE OF IT, and the day YOU GET PREGNANT. That is the day you will be allowed to speak out against abortion. Too bad that will NEVER happen, so keep your ignorant opinions to yourself.

Answer 10

AMEN!