a paradox is a statement, if it is true it must be false/
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The LITERAL "son of God" has to have both of two Characteristics.
1. He must have come from God OR He must have receive his life from God.
2. He must be the same kind of being as God otherwise he is not the son.
But each attribute excludes the possibility of the other.
If he receives his life from God, then he is not the same kind of being as father because God does not receive His life from anyone, that's why He is God.
If he is the same kind of being as God, then he is NO ONE'S son, because God is not the son of any being.
We see now that the two requirements in this case are Mutually exclusive. In Short, It is IMPOSSIBLE that God can LITERALLY have a son.
This makes it PARADOX
Agreed?
2006-08-19
11:14:01
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It follows by logical necessity that if God is one, and if He is eternal, Then obviously He does not beget , Nor is he begotten. Because if He beget, then He will have a child and the child will have to be God-like. So there will then be two Gods, because "the son of a man" is "a man", "the son of a horse" is "a horse", but natural son of God should have to be a God. Since we agreed that there is only one God, you cannot have two. Some Christians say that Jesus and father are one God. This is again illogical claim, because If God is the Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. OR If he was begotten, that means he would have father. Then the father will be older than him and more eternal than him. and we cannot have one who is more eternal than "ETERNAL"
2006-08-19
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Quran (holy book of islam) gives the answer to this question
Quran (3:59-60) The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt."
Did Adam had a father? Did he had a mother? If you say that a person who does not have a father is God almighty then Adam is a bigger God.
God can create anything, if He wishes, He can create million person like Jesus.
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2006-08-19
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update #2
We are all individuals...
2006-08-26 11:34:25
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answered by luckiest 4
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I agree with what the Quran has to say and believe it. The verse that you have says this:
God created man from dust or clay, okay?
Then, after making the sculpture, he said to it "be" and it was, this means that He gave the object life.
The Quran also says that God has no children, nor has He any parent. God is all eternal and everlasting. He has always esisted and will keep existing, nothing can change that. He is the one and only, there are no others like him.
To go on, the Quran says that nobody can see God for He is shrouded behind a veil of light. The story goes that when Moses asked God to show him His face, God did so (only a teeny tiny bit) and Moses was knocked out, while the mountain he stood one turned to dust. This mountain's (Mt. Sinai, I think, not positive) dust has since then been used as Surma or the Islamic eye-liner which both men and women wear because it has healing properties for the eyes and protects them from the harsh sun of the desert (in Saudi Arabia)
2006-08-27 10:16:44
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answered by ~*Prodigious*~ 3
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Well first the bible proves that there was a person born of the VIRGIN Mary. Maybe you should explain how a woman can have a baby and still be a virgin. Also the bible says he is flesh of my flesh and spirit of my spirit. He had all the powers of GOD. He was sent here to live among man to show it was possible to live a sinless life. He also died to pay the greatest cost known to this day. That way we would not have to pay this price. Was it a price too high as some say? He died to save the sinner. What sense does that make? People think that because someone did something stupid, Murder, Assault or other crime that if they ask for forgiveness they still will not or should not go to heaven.
I think the hardest thing is for us is to believe in something that we have not or can not see as real.
2006-08-19 11:25:15
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answered by thebulktiny 3
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Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
In our Image meaning more than one
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Meaning God the son was with him
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
God the son came to earth
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Showing Jesus's name was the word of God
2006-08-19 11:27:09
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answered by Anonymous
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I think that this is just one more piece of evidence that the Christian Church needs to take a long, hard look at its own history. The whole business of whether Jesus was the 'same' as God, despite claiming to be the "son" of God, was essentially settled by the Council of Nicea in 325, which is to say by committee... consisting of representatives of around 14% of the people in the world at the time who called themselves 'Christians'.
Personally, I think the whole thing is a wash because there are strongly-worded warnings about 'editing' the Bible in the Bible itself, and the Council choosing what was and was not acceptable is simple human arrogance.
I reserve judgement, and I do mean judgement for myself, with respect to Judaism and Islam, as I don't really know an awful lot about them, but I certainly wish all of their devout followers the rewards that they have earned... in every sense of the phrase.
2006-08-24 17:57:11
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answered by deputyindigo@sbcglobal.net 2
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While on earth, Jesus was a human being. A perfect one, since he was conceived through holy spirit in Mary's womb. But this is not how he began, he told his disciples that he DESCENDED FROM HEAVEN John 3:13. Thus, Jesus had an existence before coming down to earth. That is why John 3:16 says that God sent his only-begotten son. He sent him from heaven to the earth.
He is the first-born of all creations. Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation
Thus, he did come from God, through God's holy spirit. He is God's son. He was persecuted and later killed because he claimed to be God's son! And a noteworthy thing to keep in mind is after he was baptised and a dove ascended from heaven, there was a voice [God] and he said "this is my SON, the one that I have approved." What further proof do we need?
2006-08-20 08:13:22
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answered by AnGeL 4
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You need to get some information a bit more accurate.. your thinking is a little off the reality of this particular situation.; as indicated in the Holy Scriptures.
Jesus The Christ is a priest forever.. having no geneology.. has always been.. In the manner of the King of Peace.. both having no geneology... has been and always will be forever. There are not any, nor will there ever be any duplicates.
He was given a mortal form for the purpose intended. Then was returned to His throne.
2006-08-27 06:31:06
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answered by mrcricket1932 6
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In the New Testament this phrase frequently denotes the relation into which we are brought to God by adoption (Rom. 8:14, 19; 2 Cor. 6:18; Gal. 4:5, 6; Phil. 2:15; 1 John 3:1, 2). It occurs thirty-seven times in the New Testament as the distinctive title of our Saviour. He does not bear this title in consequence of his miraculous birth, nor of his incarnation, his resurrection, and exaltation to the Father’s right hand. This is a title of nature and not of office. The sonship of Christ denotes his equality with the Father. To call Christ the Son of God is to assert his true and proper divinity. The second Person of the Trinity, because of his eternal relation to the first Person, is the Son of God. He is the Son of God as to his divine nature, while as to his human nature he is the Son of David (Rom. 1:3, 4. Comp. Gal. 4:4; John 1:1–14; 5:18–25; 10:30–38, which prove that Christ was the Son of God before his incarnation, and that his claim to this title is a claim of equality with God).
When used with reference to creatures, whether men or angels, this word is always in the plural. In the singular it is always used of the second Person of the Trinity, with the single exception of Luke 3:38, where it is used of Adam.
Easton, M.G.: Easton's Bible Dictionary. Oak Harbor, WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1996, c1897
2006-08-19 20:43:30
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answered by humblecaringknight 2
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personally i don't know much about religons and stuff..*sighs* i wish i did had more knowledge...but i wont say that God has no physical image...but the image we have in our mind..is not just an image...i think a piece of Gods Spirit was put in every single Human being...regardless of other religon/color/race (ya'll knwo what i mean) i mean my beliefe is Islam..and we believe that God has no Son...and i've been reading the Bible..i did a while ago..if anyone can point out where exactaly its mentioned that Jesus Christ is the son of God, would be greta...cuase i've been trying to find it but couldnt alot of other stuff in life getting in the way so if anyone know where it is please post it here thanks!
for the person above me... i can assure you 10000% that there is no way that it says in the Quran that you kill others and get rewarded...thats just a load of crap made by someone who has no life and all that person does is makes up bull crap about something and releases it in publics and watch other people fight over it...so if you read the Quran there is no where it says that "we" kill others to get rewarded.... or suicide...thats one hell of a sin were talking about...and i do agree with you about your religon/God being your Soul... i agree 100% ... no matter what happens i would never change my religon for nothing ...beasue its in my soul/heart/Blood!
2006-08-20 08:11:12
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answered by phvxoui 2
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Your understanding is flawed. God is a Spirit ,Jesus was A man with a Spirit.
And now is a Spirit in a Celestial Body. No flesh inters into heaven. It was not a blood line that made Jesus Gods Son , it was Gods Spirit in him that made him Gods Son. And Jesus the Man was from the line of David through his Mother. How God did this I do not know , but I am sure God knew about artificial insemination before man did. And We are Abraham's Seed so. you add it up. " No God did not have Sex with Mary or any one else"
2006-08-20 08:02:26
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answered by kritikos43 5
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I dont think Jesus was any more a "son" of God then you or I. I think Jesus was enlightened, but the very fact he believed himself to be the son of God and didn't believe others to be the same is flawed in my opinion. We are all born capable of the love Jesus tried to teach, we are just not all capable of showing it. You can only show others how to express love more fully, you can't give them love. IF some were not capable as others in loving, then the concept doesn't exist because it isn't universal. Love must be universal, expressing love , however, is a factor of the human experience.
2006-08-24 03:45:45
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answered by Anonymous
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