For a site set up to discuss and share scientific ideas and knowledge, we do seem to be awash with disinformation designed to undermine rational thinking and scientific facts, It is a sort of pollution as I see it.
If it's not the Christians pushing Creationism in the Astronomy and Space pages and substituting dogma for knowledge, then it's the Astrology enthusiasts who don't know the difference between Astrology and Astronomy, substituting superstition for knowledge,
Then we have the conspiracy theorists who doubt the lunar landings took place, the pseudo-science buffs who will believe every UFO sighting reported, the crackpots who think we have never been into space, that the moon is an optical illusion or is only 20 miles away and the crackheads who think the aliens are here already or that they are one of them!
And then there are the ignorant who repeat every scrap of disinformation they get in their inbox as though it were the gospel truth, the gullible who believe that if an answer is awarded best answer, that means it is the right answer, the facile who think saying Uranus is hysterically funny and stunningly original of them and the inarticulate who phrase their questions so sloppily that you can only guess at their meaning,
Amidst all this garbage we are having to wade through it sometimes gets unnecessarily difficult to conduct the discussions we come here to conduct and to maintain a sense of purpose as to why we are here. We are being distracted and destabilised,
Give me enthusiasm, give me curiosity, give me a genuine desire to learn and I can connect to it and relate to it, And this site is working as it was meant to do, But the God Squad are determined to take that pleasure away and pollute cyberspace with the effluent built up in their closed minds,
I have come to the conclusion their organised interventions are an abuse and that if we object, then we must make abuse reports to Yahoo.
Of course they are organised: look how many of them write "god" in capital letters as a code whereby to recognise each other!
2006-08-19 16:11:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Your argument excludes all possibilities except the two you happened to select. It's not the case that either God created Earth, or Earth created itself, because something other than either God or Earth might have created Earth. Arguments such as yours are sometimes called false dichotomies. Moreover, since nothing can be the cause of its own existence, Earth obviously could not have been the cause of Earth, and that would oh-so-very-neatly have given "God" as the only remaining answer. How clever that strategem was! And how dishonest.
Existence is the only meaningful tautology. Existence exists because the only alternative is non-existence, which can't exist. Not only is there no excluded middle, there's only one end: existence.
But how does nature implement the tautology of existence? Existence is energy. And energy has one inherant condition: nothing can remain perfectly static. Always, there's a flux of energy, even in a vacuum. The basic state of existence is quantum chaos, in which vacuum fluctuations are the most significant events.
Vacuum fluctuations are random changes in fields of force that permeate space. Sometimes, there's enough of it to produce a temporary (or "virtual") pair of particles, such as an electron and a positron, or a quark and an antiquark.
Universes are very unusual virtual particles. They begin as vacuum fluctuations, or superpositions of such, of very high energy: so much that an event horizon forms around the energy locus, which isolates the energy from whatever region it formed in.
The energy can't disperse in a normal thermodynamic manner back into the region it formed in because the event horizon (the beginning of time) is in the way. So two things happen at once. First, some of the primordial energy changes state by a process called pair production - it becomes particles, mostly quarks and leptons. Second, an equal amount of energy becomes engaged in force links between the aforementioned particles. In other words, it becomes potential energy.
We perceive potential energy as space, and we perceive the progression of the events in which the particles engage as time.
The "big bang" was actually the leftover energy: the radiation that didn't become either particles or the space for the particles to be scattered through. It's the third part of the primordial energy that fell behind that event horizon in... whatever place that was. The blast of the big bang wasn't an explosion in the normal sense: it wasn't a transformation of fuel into energy. It was energy from the beginning of time that was seeking a way toward a thermodynamically more probable condition.
Imagine a room full of air. If you wait long enough... and it might take a VERY long time... all the molecules of gas will just happen to be moving toward the same corner and arrive at about the same time, leaving the room (except for that corner) in a vacuum. Of course, that very improbable distribution of gas molecules wouldn't last very long. In the next instant, all that air would come blasting back out of that corner, back into the room, to reestablish a more probable distribution of gas. It would seem like an explosion, though. And it would make a "big bang."
That's the sort of thing the Big Bang was.
Once the energy for our universe had, by random chance, cropped up as a vacuum fluctuation and had fallen into its own spacetime pocket, the events leading up to the creation of Earth (by the forces of nature) were set.
2006-08-19 19:11:29
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answered by David S 5
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People on earth created God
2006-08-19 18:57:00
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answered by rumplestiltskin12357 3
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god, if there is a god is real. but to the extent to make a universe. god is a robot maker. just gives the battery to make us work, the spark. before the big bang, unknown. so we turn to god. it's simple. the earth was created by all the essential materials needed. a perfect soup. earth just happened to be at the right spot to give life.
"god created the earth in 7 days" bull. "god made adam and eve" bull. both to me are just simple answers of how we are here. biblically, the earth just about 3,000 years old. can the bible explain the dinos? earth was made billions of years back and slowly became a hot spot for life.
the universe is huge. millions of galaxies are in the universe, over a billion stars are in just one galaxy and at an average, 15 planets are around one star. god can't only pay attention to us, if there is which i think there has to be, other life out there.
i go with scientology more. but i just use god as a reason to the unknown of before the big bang.
2006-08-23 13:32:22
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answered by Homer 4
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people believe in god for two reasons:
1.death
2.lack of knowledge
long time ago, people thought the lightning was the anger of GOD. it was because lightning was strange to them. so they believed that lightning was the sign of God's presence. because they didn't have another answer for that. but now we know that there is no god in lightning. it's just because of the electricity. so in these days, nobody admire god for lightning. so the belief of metaphysics retreats, as the human knowledge develops.
But I think the human knowledge will never find out whether there is a god or not. because when a question has been answered, some other questions would be created about the first one.
For example when human found out the lightning cause by electricity, there was another question:where has electricity, atoms,etc. come from?
Thereby, the human will never prove if there is a god or not.
but there is a sense in human, which need to worship somebody, which is able to do anything and has even create itself(human), for the two reason that I had already written.
So the human race need to worship god, even though it doesn't exist.
2006-08-19 16:23:16
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answered by Yara 2
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And God said, "Let there be a Big Bang, and there was a Big Bang". The Earth is a less than a flyspeck in the cosmos.
Whether God created the Earth and Mankind or not, it's our responsibility to use the Earth wisely and treat Mankind kindly.
2006-08-19 18:44:25
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answered by SPLATT 7
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I think the universe created the Earth.
2006-08-19 20:31:41
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answered by Bigger is Better 1
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I just think that a really Big Bang happened and after the universe started cooling off the Sun was formed and it's gravetational influence put things into orbit which started to clump which made some of the planets. Like Earth.
2006-08-19 16:45:25
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answered by suppy_sup 3
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Scientists have felt since 1927 that science proved the existence of God. Since scientists are fond of referring to Einstein to prove their points -
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." - Albert Einstein
The problem with the Big Bang theory is that no one can explain where the single point that was a few centimeters across came from and then became so compressed, in a vacuum no less, that it exploded creating the universe. It is easy to see how everything could be created simply by introducing matter to the vacuum.
Using scientists' own physical laws you can only arrive at the conclusion that since the vacuum was infinite, the matter that filled it, the universe, must be infinite.
2006-08-19 17:49:44
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answered by Anonymous
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Many races believe that it was created by some sort of God, though the Jatravartid people of Viltvodle VI believe that the entire Universe was in fact sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure.
The Jatravartids live in perpetual fear of the time they call The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.
2006-08-19 17:26:54
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answered by Krynne 4
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