Can the observer be seperate from the observed?

Question

Is it possible to be seperate from what we observe? If so where and how does that seperation occur?

Answer 1

Semantically, your question structures its own answer. By definition, "observer" is different from "observed". "Observer" is the subject; "observed" is the object. So in this sense, your question supposes a line of separation between two entities.

Logically, however, we have two different sets that, while they do not share a subset of elements, they do share a third set of elements. Schematically, each element in the third set changes state in the presence of an attribute or attributes of the observed while registering this change of state in a manner sensible to the observer. There results a transitive effect: The observed acts upon something which, in turn, acts upon the observer.

But there is no direct linkage between the observer and the observed.

Also there may exist multiple "third sets" by which the same observed attribute may act upon the same observer in multiple ways, or upon different observers, seemingly, in a similar way. Using this model, one can plug-in one or more of our "five senses", or--just as easily--plug-in a measuring device or chemical reagent.

Thus, a single change in the observed may transmit in the same moment to many different observers which "smell", "taste", "feel", react, interpret, report, represent...respond in some way quite differently by virtue of their different composition, orientation, predisposition, wiring, programming, chemistry, etc.

We are really asking what happens when one or more variables are changed within a system. In that there are actors and reactors, we are separate from what we observe. In that both observed and observer change together in knowable, if not predictable, interdependent patterns, we are irreversibly intangled and interactive as different features of a common transaction or system.

Answer 2

Relativity is the best example of this seperation. An observer and observed in different time vectors are certainly seperated.
Simple example you can go outside and observe a star that may not have existed for millions of years.

Answer 3

YES!

You must remember to establish your domain.

In classical physics, observation has little or no effect on the observed. ie, if I saw you driving in your car, it did not affect how you drove or affect your path.

In quantum physics, observation is tied in to the obseved. ie, if I watch your photon flying around, I will collapse its wave function and affect its state.



PS In 3 stooges physics, any observation will cause the stooges to begin slapping each other, thus resulting in Mo being injured a bit, but Curly ending up with the biggest slap. Unless no one observed it...

Answer 4

Everyone is observed by someone, and everyone observes others. So...no?
By the way, I have a serious fear of clowns, so I will not be observing you.

Answer 5

I observe myself in a mirror everyday !

Answer 6

if I observe somebody and this one doesn't know then it is produced the separation

Answer 7

i think of separation happens whilst repetitious assertion is carried out. consistent assertion of the comparable phenomena might have a tendency to allow you to chop up your self from the mentioned.

Answer 8

nope you cant if you observe anything it changes.

Answer 9

not according to Heisenberg