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do you really want to see middle americans making crap wages without health benefits?......that translates to------millions of workers having to work two jobs, and even then many cannot afford health insurance.....how is this good for the country?...........im betting you cant answer this and resort to insults

2006-08-18 15:29:01 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

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they dont like having to pay employee benefits or deal with greivances when they try and cut corners

2006-08-18 15:35:58 · answer #1 · answered by cynthetiq 6 · 0 0

I'm betting you lose. Unions had their place in history, but have outlived what they originally stood for. Unions now stand for making money for the Union and the union PACs. There are plenty of laws that protect employees to the point that unions really aren't needed. What would happen without unions? Well, for one the cost of making products would drop causing the prices to drop, competition would guarantee this. If an employer wanted to stay in business, he would have to treat his employees as good as if not better than his competitors. Why work for company A when I get better wages/benefits at company B?

Companies exist to make money for the owners and stockholders. When unions demand higher wages, that isn't going to come out of the profit margin, the price of the product will simply go up. The consumer would bear the brunt of the union's demands. Once again, the union would come out and say, hey, stuff is getting more expensive we need another raise... and so inflation is born. What do the unions get out of this? More members, more dues paid in to the union coffers.

See, no insults. Just experience having been a Union Steward and Editor in Chief of our Union's newspaper.

2006-08-18 15:47:19 · answer #2 · answered by sparkletina 6 · 0 0

The Unions had a very important place in our history. Prior to craft minimum wages, laws regarding work week hours, etc. I'm sure there are several areas where they still do a lot of good. Unfortunately, they also have a negative effect. They cut competition as they drive non-union business out of the market. They make it difficult to fire bad help, which hurts the entire business and endangers everyone's job. When there's an economic downturn they have actually drive companies into bankruptcy. I can only assume they thought no job was better. This is personal experience for me as my family had to move from Detroit in the 80's for this exact reason.

2006-08-18 15:47:49 · answer #3 · answered by MEL T 7 · 0 0

I think a lot of them see unions functioning to serve the least common denominator. The lazy slackers, malcontents, and goof offs take over the union shops and drag the entire operation down with them.

The other complaint I've heard is silly union work rules. That way everytime something needs to be done, instead of getting it done there's a 3 hour discussion about who's job it is and do we have the correct craft doing the correct part of the job. Then after the work finally gets done, which may be several days later, there is the onslaught of greivances about how the work was done and who was slighted.

Still others complain about union corruption. "Where is Jimmy Hofa". If the unions are such a great deal why do they resort to violence and intimedation to enforce strikes, and gain new members. Their most distasteful tactic is to have the company hand new employees application for union membership with application for employment. Then have union dues deducted directly from paychecks. If its such a good deal why wouldn't people voluntarily pay their union dues. Of course most of the money paid into union dues goes into the pockets of union bosses and organizes. I've heard that organizers get paid between $80,000 and $100,000 per year, for almost no work. That money comes directly out of the paychecks of hourly workers.

Unions are dying out because they no longer provide any service to anyone. This doesn't have to happen, and wouldn't happen if unions would live up to their end of the bargan they could almost name their price.

At one time a union worker meant someone that knew his job and did 8 hrs of productive work for 8 hrs of pay. Unions had their own training programs and employers new if they hired someone out of the union hall they would get a fair days work and a qualified worker. I truly believe if the union would purge themselves of malcontents and slackers, establish their own training programs and offer motivated, qualified workers, employers would be fighting over the opportunity to hire them.

2006-08-18 15:56:22 · answer #4 · answered by Roadkill 6 · 0 0

Unions play a major role in protecting government workers (ex: teachers) from being abused by the political whims that are really not in the best of the nation - Unions also protect government worker who work in areas of high security where politicians would otherwise fire these workers because they have finding that don't match their political agendas - even if such agendas are too the danger of the United States.

2006-08-18 15:52:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The right hates unions because they are in existance to help the little guy. They stand up against the rich, selfish business owners, and prove to them that they are dealing with human beings, not employee numbers. Unions need more support in this world. Sometimes people are too chickenshit to stand up for themselves, then they cry for help when they've been laid off. Well if you organized a union, things like that wouldn't happen. Takes a little time, takes a little money, but its' worth it. Yep, I'm a union president's daughter. And I likes it that way...

2006-08-18 15:36:45 · answer #6 · answered by Nikki 6 · 0 0

They want more money for doing less work. That's why companies outsource. Unions want more for less.

So they take their products over seas to have them produced for less money and workers just grateful to have a job.

As for your health care comment. That's something the employee needs to demand from the employer. If it can't be provided...perhaps further education to reach a job that provides health care.

I am self employed and offer health care to my employees. Most employers if they want good employees, offer health care.

My brother is in a union and he does nothing but complain. Mainly because if someone doesn't do their job and if they have seniority, its extremely hard to fire them. I believe if you quit doing your job, you should be fired. Not given protection by how many years you've been there.

2006-08-18 15:35:25 · answer #7 · answered by John 3 · 0 0

Because they have a negative effect on the principles of the free market that make it work so well. When unions and collective bargaining are in force, it effectively takes merit out of the equation. You can't earn more by working harder, nor can the company effectively fire incompetent employees. I could go on, but that's the basic idea.

2006-08-18 15:36:18 · answer #8 · answered by Chris S 5 · 0 0

Everything that you say about the consequences of not having unions is based on the assumption that all businesses are run by people who have personalities like Ebeneezer Scrooge. That is known as a stereotype. It is overly simplistic thinking. Human nature is more complex than your assumption.

2006-08-18 15:41:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Because too many of us are content on being slaves to the capitalist. It was working class in England which brought about universal adult franchise and democracy. If the yuppies have their way they would even abolish vote and let the corporates decide how the country is run and foreign countries occupied. They have already privatised torture in occupied countries... they might do the same to government soon.

2006-08-18 16:04:44 · answer #10 · answered by boogie man 4 · 0 1

Unions are a perfect representation of communism. The only people who make money in unions are the union leaders.

2006-08-18 15:40:52 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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