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In the silent realm of white light chatter,
Weaving stars through fingertips,
She reaches out acros't Orion,
Lifts the Dipper, sloe glass she sips.

Celestial lady, eternal queen,
Embracing all of Hubble's Flow,
From Creation's dawn to age unseen,
Time's arrow never left its bow.

- Plischke

2006-08-17 17:42:23 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Other - Arts & Humanities

12 answers

Regarding the previous answer detailing the mythology, I don't quite see how these factoids connect with the meaning of the poem. Maybe I'm missing something... but here are my "objections":

"In the silent realm of white light chatter" COULD be Artemis sitting on her throne in Olympus... but why silent? Why white light chatter? I don't see any reason to think this is a reference to Artemis.

"Weaving stars through fingertips" COULD be the glow of the moon as her "fingertips"... buy why? Plus, Artemis didn't put Orion and "Dipper" (Ursa Major/Minor) in the sky. Zeus did! (Hera turned Callisto into a bear, later Zeus put her into the sky along with her son, Arcas.)

"She reaches out acros't Orion" could be Artemis caressing him... I'll grant that one ;)

"Lifts the Dipper, sloe glass she sips"... How does the sipping fit in to the myth?

"Celestial lady, eternal queen" COULD refer to the fact that she was widely worshiped... but many gods and goddesses were widely worshiped.

"Embracing all of Hubble's Flow"... Watching over the stars? Does Artemis watch over the stars in Greek mythology? I don't see the connection.

"From Creation's dawn to age unseen"... Forever remembered? Artemis? Again, I don't see the connection.

"Time's arrow never left its bow"... It does seem plausible that this is an Artemis reference, however a more straightforward interpretation would be with regards to the previous sentences, concerning eternity. Time's arrow refers to the fact that time is considered to "move forward". If Time's arrow never left its bow, that would be a descriptive way of saying that eternity is like time not moving.

Anyway, this is a really tough question! (For me at least.) I'm going to mull it over, then come back and edit my answer to include my own "interpretation"... if I can think of a good one!

For now, all I can say is that I see a lot of references to science and the idea of God as Nature, here personified as the "eternal queen".

2006-08-17 20:00:27 · answer #1 · answered by Jon 3 · 0 1

My kin is exciting , worrying , clever , loveable, and the various time annoying . My families pastime are attaining their objectives , and continually having each and each others lower back no count what . My families objectives are paying for a house , ending college , geting a clean vehicle and so plenty greater.

2016-09-29 09:45:58 · answer #2 · answered by duchane 4 · 0 0

something about astrology..

someone marries Orion.... and holds him and he is a hubbie? She's the queen now. He's the king. Now they sip from the big dipper.

2006-08-17 17:49:50 · answer #3 · answered by Mama R 5 · 0 1

I think this is very good, she sounds fay or a goddess of old , those that we have forgotten, those we see no more or believe in . For some a myth for some unreal that don't exist. For those who believe and see blessed be.

2006-08-17 17:56:28 · answer #4 · answered by ret w 4 · 1 1

Mother of Wisdom

2006-08-17 18:02:57 · answer #5 · answered by cindy c 2 · 0 1

Hi!

I have never heard of this poem until now, so I do not know if my view on the poem will be accurate... but I will give it a try.

I think the poem is about the Goddess Artemis. I will give you the mythology first, then a break down of the poem.

I think Artemis (the goddess of the hunt) is lamenting the lost of her lover Orion... and that of her hunting maiden (or follower) Callisto, who was turned into a bear. Artemis was the one who put the Orion constellation and the Ursa Major/Minor constellation (big dipper and small dipper) in the sky. And 'Ursa' means "bear" in Latin.

This is going to be hard to explain, so stay with me. I will start with Orion.

According to some legends in Greek Mythology, Artemis was tricked by her brother Apollo to kill Orion. This paragraph below was taken from www.wikipedia.com.

"Artemis was in love with Orion. She was very happy and spent many of her days hunting with him. Apollo, her brother, got jealous that she was paying more attention to Orion than to himself, so he came up with a plan to get rid of him. Apollo sent a giant scorpion to kill Orion, but Artemis put him on an island where the scorpion could not get to him. Apollo then challenged Artemis, saying that she could not hit with a bowshot what appeared to be a rock, but was really Orion, far out in the water. When Orion's dead body floated to the shore, Artemis wept for days. She sent his body and his hunting dog to the stars, where they became the constellations Orion and the dog star Sirius."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis#Orion

Callisto has a longer, more complicated myth. Callisto was a hunting companion (or follower) of Artemis and swore to maintain her virginity. However, Zeus (Artemis father) fell in love with her and got her pregnant with a son. Zeus wife, Hera, becomes jealous and turns Callisto into a bear. Some say Artemis turned her into a bear for breaking her vow. Eitherway, Callisto's son hunts down his mother. Before he could kill her, Artemis turned them both into constellations... some say it was Zeus who did it. For this poem, let us go with Artemis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisto_%28mythology%29

Moving on to breaking down your poem...

Line One -- "In the silent realm of white light chatter"... This could be Artemis sitting on her throne in Olympus. She is not paying any attention to the other Gods there (white light) as they talk informally about unimportant things (chatter). She is lost in her own thoughts.

Line Two -- "Weaving stars through fingertips"... It was Artemis who put Orion, and possibly the "Dipper" (Ursa Major/Ursa Minor) in the sky according to my references below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28mythology%29#Death
(In another variant, Callisto's son, Arcas, nearly killed his mother while hunting, but Zeus or Artemis stopped him and placed them both in the sky as Ursa Major and Ursa Minor.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisto_%28mythology%29

Artemis was the virgin goddess of the hunt, wild animals (especially bears), wilderness, moon, and childbirth. Maybe the glow of the moon is her "fingertips".

Line Three -- "She reaches out acros't Orion"... Perhaps Artemis is caressing him? She probably misses her lover greatly.

Line Four -- "Lifts the Dipper, sloe glass she sips"... The term "sip" in the poem may be symbolic of "taking in something slowly" like when you sip a liquid (you drink slow). Perhaps the poet used this symbolism because a "dipper" is a cup or ladle used for dipping into liquid. The word "sloe" comes from a base word that meant purple/blue (I think).

hmmm... sip and sloe... Perhaps Artemis is comtemplating (drinking in the sight of) the Ursa constellation as it sits in the dark purple/blue night sky.

The Big Dipper and the Small Dipper are apart of the constellation Ursa Major and Ursa Minor ... which both mean the Great Bear and Small Bear (in Latin) and is based on the myth of Callisto, Artemis follower.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisto_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis#Worship

Line Five -- "Celestial lady, eternal queen"... Artemis, a goddess of the moon, was worshipped almost everywhere in Greece.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis#Worship

Line Six -- "Embracing all of Hubble's Flow"... Artemis is watching over the stars she placed in the night sky-- Orion and Ursa. Look up Hubble's Law for the "Hubble" reference in poem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law

Line Seven -- "From Creation's dawn to age unseen"... All this (the stars, the gods, the myths) will be forever remembered.

Line Eight -- "Time's arrow never left its bow"... Because time will never cease. When an arrow leaves it's bow, it will have to stop flying sometime-- it will either hit something or lose velocity and plummet down to the earth. Artemis was known for her bow and arrow-- she was the goddess of the hunt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis#Childhood

I hope this helps you out... Did I just do your homework? ;)
T.

2006-08-17 18:50:48 · answer #6 · answered by Theophania 4 · 0 2

1st: abcb
2nd: abab
4th line has alliteration of the s sound.
Lots of personification, all through out the poem.

2006-08-17 17:50:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I know the description but what I'll write is to explicit here!

2006-08-17 17:49:41 · answer #8 · answered by Zeta 5 · 0 1

This is from the following link

http://www.saibaba.us/texts/jnaneshwari/chpt13.html


"The sages have sung it variously and severally in different Vedic hymns, and also in aphorisms on Brahman that is well reasoned and conclusive.

Some (ritualists) argue that this Field belongs to the individual Self and that the vital air is its tenant. In the house of the vital air labour his four brothers (other vital airs) and the farmer in the form of the mind supervises their work. The mind has ten pairs of bullocks in the form of ten sense-organs and toils hard day and might in the farm of sense-objects. Then missing the steam of scriptural injunctions, the embodied Self prepares the beds of misdeeds by sowing the seeds of injustice (26-30). Then he secures an abundant crop of sins, as a result of which he suffers pain in many births. On the other hand, if after making certain of the availability of the steam in the form of scriptural injunctions, he sows the seeds of meritorious deeds, he enjoys happiness in many births.

On this some others (i.e. Sankhyas) say that this Field does not belong to the Self and that this matter should be referred to them for a decision. In this Field, they say, the Self-dwells as a wayfarer for a short time and the vital air is a field watchman who keeps awake day and night and protects him. The Field is the hereditary estate of the beginningless prakriti, whose fame is sung by the Sankhya thinkers. (31-35). Since the prakriti has all the necessary implernents, she herself cultivates the Field. The three qualities in this created world who originally cultivate this field were only born of her. The seed is sown by the rajas quality and it is protected by the sattva quality, while the tamas quality reaps the crop. Then she prepares the threshing ground of mahat (the Great Principle) and gets the crop threshed by a bull in the form of Time, as a result of which all the subtle impressions of gross creations get heaped up in the Unmanifest.

But this did not find approval with the intellectuals (the proponents of divine Will). They said, yours is a modern idea. How can your prakriti hold its ground before the Supreme? We shall explain to you the entire position of the Field, you may well hear it. The divine Will was lying in a latent state in the bed-chamber in the form of formless Brahman. It awoke all of a sudden, and since it was always active, It found the treasure in the form of the universe in accordance with its desire. Then because of its exertions the three worlds, which were in a latent form in the garden of the formless Brahman, came to possess name and form. Then he brought together the barren lands in the form of gross elements and created therefrom four kinds of living beings born from the womb, sweat, eggs and soil (41-45). Then taking different portions of the Ave gross elements, human bodies were formed and embankments in the form of good and evil deeds were erected on both sides of them, making the barren land fertile. Then the divine will constructed underground paths of births and deaths, linking this created world with the supportless Brahman. Then that divines Will in co-operation with egoism created animate and inanimate universe. In this way from the void of Brahman the tree of divine Will brought forth many branches and so it is the cause of this worldly existence (46-50).

Then hearing these fine words others (i.e. naturalists) challenged them and said, "How wise of you to say all this! If your divine will can be said to remain latent in the Absolute, why should we not allow the prakriti of Brahman? Leave this alone and keep away from this discussion; we shall explain properly what this Field is. Now tell me, who fills the clouds in the sky with water? Who supports the stars in the sky? Who is it that has stretched the canopy of the sky and when? Whose will has ordained that the wind should always keep blowing? (51-55). Who sows the seeds which sprout into hair on the human body? Who fills up the ocean with water? Who sends the showers of rain? In the same way the Field is produced as a result of its natural disposition, and no one has a hereditary right over it. He who looks after it and none else will reap its fruit."

On this the advocates of Kala (Time as Destroyer) retort in anger, "If what you say is true, then why has Kala sway over this Field? Even after knowing the formidable assault of Kala, people stick in pride to their own particular doctrines. This Kala is dreadful like a den of lions. If after knowing this you indulge in empty talk, how will it help you (56-60)? This Kala will hold in his fatal grip all of a sudden even the blessed denizens of Satyaloka at the final dissolution of the world. He enters the heavenly woods and destroys the eight regents and elephants that guard the eight quarters. In the whirl of this Kala, the deer in the form of human beings become dispirited and wander in the pits of births and deaths. Just see how this Kala has spread out his paw and has held in it the elephant in the form of the world and so the supremacy of this Kala over the Field is the sole truth.

O Arjuna, these are different views about the Field. (61-65) It is recorded in the Puranas that the sages in the Naimisha forest held discussions on this Field. The Vedas have expounded their theory about this field in metres such as the anushtabha and people take pride in them in support of their views. Even the Brihatsama in the Vedas which is holy from the point of view of its knowledge, does not know this Field. Many learned men have laboured to determine the nature of this field, what it is, how great it is, and under whose control (66-70). Now I shall tell you in detail about - this Field such as it is."

luv and SAI RAM,
jk

2006-08-17 21:27:55 · answer #9 · answered by jayakrishnaathmavidya 4 · 0 2

Don't count on writing for a living.....

2006-08-17 18:05:49 · answer #10 · answered by yahoooo reject 3 · 0 1

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