Did you hear the bushco illegal wiretapping was ended?

Question

Judge nixes warrantless surveillance

thats what the headline said. Federal judge ruled the warrantless wiretapping was unconstitutional. An it invaded our right to free speach and violated our privacy.
Score one of many victories to come for the Dems!!

Answer 1

About time.

Answer 2

Thank god,

The repubican part stays silent as the president does a power grab and over reaches his constitutional powers while voilating those of everyday americans.

One of many victories, lets hope so, nay lets make it so.


To the guy who claimed terrorist have won a victory.
You are lacking in the proper deductive functions of your brain.
for one,
Wire taps are in no way hampered with a warrent, there are even warrents you can get 72 hours after the fact, there are secret courts. Our efforts are in no way hampered. Besides if to extend your logic further your a terrorist.........

1) Terrorist hate our freedoms, according to W.
2) You hate protecting our freedoms, according to your post.
3) You and the terrorist hate our freedoms...
4) you lack the ablitity to see complex issues beyond black and white..


REMEMBER the wire taps began before 9/11 yes, before 9/11 and have been used to spy on peace groups.
What your suggesting is wrong in fact, whereas the violation of freedoms of normal american is very real.
jerk.






*****WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 — A federal judge in Detroit ruled today that the Bush administration’s eavesdropping program is illegal and unconstitutional, and she ordered that it cease at once.


District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor found that President Bush exceeded his proper authority and that the eavesdropping without warrants violated the First and Fourth Amendment protections of free speech and privacy.

“It was never the intent of the Framers to give the president such unfettered control, particularly where his actions blatantly disregard the parameters clearly enumerated in the Bill of Rights,” she wrote, in a decision that the White House and Justice Department said they would fight to overturn. A hearing will be held before Judge Taylor on Sept. 7, and her decision will not be enforced in the meantime pending the government’s appeal.

The judge’s ruling is the latest chapter in the continuing debate over the proper balance between national security and personal liberty since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, which inspired the eavesdropping program and other surveillance measures that the administration says are necessary and constitutional and its critics say are intrusive.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/washington/17cnd-nsa.html?hp&ex=1155873600&en=a6f8950517248da0&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Answer 3

It's no surprise that in its first legal test the warantless wiretapping was found to be illegal. This is good news for all Americans even the ones who have become convinced that the only way to prevent terrorism is to illegally listen in on the phone calls of all Americans; as if that were the only means of intelligence available and without which we are all doomed. Nonsense, is that what passes for police work and investigation these days? The NSA is still allowed to listen in on any one's conversations, they just have to get a warrant after thirty days if they identify a person of interest. It's really not that much to ask.

Answer 4

Finally.

But it's not a victory for the Democrats. It's victory for everyone who respects the constitution, and who believes that this is a nation of laws. And that nobody is above the law.

For those who'd like the statutory cites to verify yourself that the program was wrong, read 50 U.S.C. §1801 et al. (FISA) Warrantless wiretapping is illegal if anyone US citizen or resident alien is a party to the conversation. Read 18 U.S.C. § 2511: Compliance with FISA "shall be the exclusive means by which electronic surveillance... may be conducted".

Unless authorized by court order, or within one of the narrow exceptions, warrantless wiretapping is a felony offense, punishable by up to five years per violation. Anyone who orders a criminal action is vicariously liable for that criminal action.

Then read Article II Section 4. "The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

Answer 5

I don't know if I'd limit it to a victory for Democrats it's a victory for preservation of the constitution. The preservation of the constitution can't be a party thing it's a good for America thing. Some other items of interest or the Administration feeling that perhaps Iraq isn't right for democracy after all. No weapons, no liberation, no democracy, we've lost the war for hearts and minds but the oil remains.

Answer 6

Don't be going out and buying your champagne just yet.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House "couldn't disagree more" with a federal judge's order on Thursday to halt the National Security Agency's program of domestic eavesdropping.

White House spokesman Tony Snow said the Bush administration's "Terrorist Surveillance Program" is "firmly grounded in law and regularly reviewed to make sure steps are taken to protect civil liberties."

"We couldn't disagree more with this ruling, and the Justice Department will seek an immediate stay of the opinion and appeal," Snow said in a statement.

Answer 7

Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, a 1979 Jimmy Carter appointee to the District Court in Michigan made the ruling. How great is this, he is overseas slamming Israel for starting the war with Hezbollah, and she is here undermining our safety? What do you want from a liberal judge? Especially one appointed by Jimmy Carter, a joke of a president! Yep, score one more stupidity point for the Dems!!!!

Answer 8

It's not a victory or a loss for anyone yet, it's just a decision at the lowest level of the federal courts. To be continued at the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court.

Answer 9

the nsa is going to continue this practice- believe me. whats another lie anyhow by these bureaucrats.they will find a loophole to excuse what they are doing.these so called "leaders" need to get on down the road. we are tired of lies-deciet and terrorism caused by govt entities.your crimes against the elderly and innocent are disgusting. i see your thermal imagers- i see the destruction to my property with your surveillance in my trees.i see the lasers and prowlers with night vision trespassing. you walk on thin ice when you creep upon my land. just remember-- you deal on my terms when on my property. i dont dial 911. bring your own body bag cause thats where your gonna end up.

Answer 10

Don't get too excited. I'm sure Bush and Cheney will find a way to get one of their handpicked judges - or their stacked Supreme Court to overturn this and agree with them.

If that fails, then they will get their crooked attorneys to rewrite the law, and their congress full of sheep to pass it.

Answer 11

glad to hear your very happy about it Charlie, oh BTW, do you live in a high rise or close to what could be a target area? Hope you have a good nights sleep knowing America's a LOT less protected now