If God were truly all powerful, and all knowing, would he/she not have stopped homosexuality in the beginning?

Question

I'm just wondering, why would God create homosexuals if he/she hates them so much? According to so many of those devout Christians.

Answer 1

GOOD question. I'm gay and I question christians all the time with that one. They always say that god didn't make gays. Oh, people, you contradict yourselves with what you call sins, murder, decency... Oh, the bigotry and stupidity christians display whenever they twist their own beliefs to suit themselves. And if GOD wants people to choose him ON OUR OWN, then WHY are so many christians destroying his plan by judging others and FORCING other people to live by the bible whether they want to or not??!! The people who read it only seem to breed to hatred, judgment, bigotry and ignorance. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LOVING ABOUT THAT.

Answer 2

God cannot hate. God can only love. God has promised never to judge us, here, as we were given Free Will, and Free Choice!

And, those aren't devout Christians, those are devout self righteous boobs.

Sooner everyone learns the difference, sooner everyone will get back to loving God!

If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Be the change you want to see in the world. (M. Ghandi)

Answer 3

God doesn't care one way or another -- you will get a lame group of people trying to argue free will -- which of course requires that homosexuality is a choice -- which is why facts don't stop evangelicals.

The Bible is mythic, most old line churches know this -- but again the fundamentalists ignore the evidence.

The canon of the Bible was not formalized until the Council of Carthage -- when it affirmed a resolution of the synod of Hippo recognizing a group of books drawn together and claimed as divine by Bishop Anathasius. Anathasius did not even coin the word canon until 327 and the Council of Carthage did not formalize the list approved by Hippo until the 390s, and then sent it on to "the Church across the sea" (Rome) for the Pope's approval.

There are no full copies of what is now considered scripture until the 4th century. There are two copies from the 4th century (Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus) together with hundreds of manuscript fragments of various forms (Papyrus and Vellum Manuscripts and Vellum Palimpsests). Overall there are over 5000 copies of at least part of the present canonical Bible that are from the sixth century or earlier. These range from a few verses to whole books, to Bibles that were read in churches. According to Dr. Bart Ehrman, one of the foremost experts in the world on Textual criticism and Textual reconstruction, those manuscripts have between them at least 200,000 differences. Some of those differences are minor, or meaningless -- but some are very important and would change core Christian doctrines like the Virgin birth of our Lord and his divinity -- among others.

One does not need to be an expert to see that the Bible is fiction, and not the Word of God however. Even the American Bible Society explains scriptural accreation as starting with Hebrew tribesmen telling stories around a campfire. That is exactly where the earliest parts of the Bible started -- then it was expanded through midrash and so forth.

Looking at the received texts, the idea of Sola Scriptura becomes evidently ludicrous. The Bible says that the world has corners (Isaiah 11:12) and that it sets on pillars (I Samuel 2:8). It says that God accepted a human sacrifice -- he may have prevented Isaac's, but he allowed a general to sacrifice his own daughter without even a murmur, the text giving tacit support to the idea that having given his word, the man had to kill his child. (Judges 11:30-39). It clearly maintains that genocide is often commanded by God (Joshua 10:40-42 and I Samuel 15: 2, 3 and 8) and that, after killing all the adults in a race, taking the female children as sex slaves is permissible (Numbers 31: 17-18).

The God revealed by the Bible is not only both a liar who doesn't know the natural laws of his own world, and a monster, as shown above -- but he has no real regard, even for his own people, whom he forces into cannibalism (Leviticus 26: 27-29) when he is mad at them; or his priests, whose faces he wipes with dung (Malachi 2:1-3).

It is not only gays and lesbians that are hated by bible-god. This monstrosity also suggests killing kids who eat or drink too much (Deuteronomy 21: 18-21), and says that if he is angry with parents he will kill their children (Leviticus 26:22) and he blames things upon children whose great-great-great grandfathers committed the things being blamed on the kids (Exodus 20: 5).

Putting it in a word, bible-god is a monstrosity, a horrific demiurge of evil. Something that even he admits ( Isaiah 45:7 ) [Furthermore, the word used in Hebrew for evil, the word ra' is widely conceded to mean a number of different things: It can mean "wickedness," "mischief," "bad," "trouble," "hurt," "sore," "affliction," "ill," "adversity," "harm," "grievous," and "sad." So no matter what particular interpretation is given of this word -- it has profoundly negative implications. The idea that god is sovereign over the affairs of man makes this even worse, because no matter what interpretation it has, it indicates that bible-god deliberately does harm.]; evil about which he sometimes changes his mind (Exodus 32:14). What a font of unchanging morality -- that almighty God can decide to kill an entire people, and then be talked out of it by a human servant... Furthermore, it is obvious, if God can change his mind, then even if the Bible were not full of errors and horrors, you could not trust that God had not changed his mind on any other issue in it.

So, yes, I suppose if one wants to take as truth a book that says that beetles have four legs instead of six (Leviticus 11: 21-23) and that rabbits chew their cud [which they do NOT] (Deuteronomy 14:7) and if you are willing to, having accepted it as truth, overlook the fact that bible-god routinely changed his mind (I can show you other instances if you wish) then yeah, I suppose its words would matter and gays are therefore going to hell.

I on the other hand, while a Christian (as in Christ follower) am NOT a literalist, and do not think that a book of bronze age myths owing heavily to the Sumerian and Egyptian myths in the Old Testament and to a collection of pagan faiths, particularly Mithraism in the New Testament matters at all.

Christianity is centered around love, faith in Christ, and Eucharist. At best the Bible is sacred because of its place in the life of the early church and should be regarded as holy myth -- stress on the myth. And what is a myth? It is fiction.

Regards,

Reynolds
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org
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Answer 4

God is your Good Cop in your brain. The Devil is your Bad Cop. You heard the saying, "it's all in your head". There is no actual God, sort of like Santa. People believe because it gives them hope and guidance. But really it's just themselves doing the talking. Heaven? It's what "we" make our lives here on Earth. The God "people" spread hatred and counter the beliefs they say God supposedly spreads. Ever hear, "do onto others and you would have them do onto you"? Or, God died for your sins? Make Earth your heaven, be happy!! As long as you don't hurt others, life is meant to be FUN!!! Enjoy it, you only get one. Trust me!!!

Answer 5

Why would God stop something that is given as a gift to a select number? Who are they to disparage or judge any of God's gifts?

Obviously the answer must be that God doesn't hate anyone. God is, however, extremely disappointed in 'christians' who preach bigotry, hatred, discrimination and therefore violence against LGBT people in 'his' name. WWJD?

Answer 6

God gave us the power of free will..So we can choose to either right or wrong..I actually don't think that statement is a way to defend being gay to any religious fanatic!

Answer 7

stop it? God created us all, and He makes no mistakes. if God didn't create homosexuals, there wouldn't be any! God loves all of His creations....according to what I was taught growing up.

Answer 8

Does this mean you agree with those "Devout Christians"?

Answer 9

Hate the sin not the sinner.
My thoughts.
We are not to judge or gossip, just accept, pray and keep watch and to help with our burdens for we are all sinners and one is just as bad as the other.

Answer 10

All I can say is that homosexuality is in every religion. While they are being hypocritical.