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Who do you frisk; Habib or the 65 year old asian lady?

2006-08-16 12:33:20 · 24 answers · asked by george_the_cat 2 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

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Racial profiling should always be okay. There is no better predictor of crime rates than race. No "social factor" comes close to being as good. The stigma against racial profiling is the result of successful leftist propaganda. The leftists want to make everybody think that everybody is everybody else's "equal," and it just isn't so.

But as long as the leftists control the media and have the money to make or break political careers, they'll continue churning out their "racial profiling is unjust / evil / misleading" message, and the idiot public will just keep on lapping it up and trying to impress each other with their "learning" (i.e., with how well they have memorized that day's mind poop from TV).

The only reason it has become semi-okay to make an exception for Arabs is that Israel is at war with Arabs (currently, the Lebanese and the Palestinians), and Israel's fifth column in the United States and its fifth column in Britain, and its fifth column in Europe, happens to be the mainstream media establishments in their respective countries. The propaganda that those media produce is the propaganda that makes White people think the way the Jews want them to think.

Normally, the Jews are paramount among the leftists who produce the "racial equality" propaganda in our mass media. But just now it is convenient to them to make an exception. So, for a while, we're all going to be "equal" except for those nasty Arabs over there. It's okay to racially profile them, we'll be told. Of course, once Israel has finished with its current round of Arab troubles, things will change again. Arabs will be merely one more race that the Jews are trying to mix us White people up with, again.

And, you know: it'll work. We Whites have a peculiar gullibility about us. It's our foremost racial weakness. We're the most innovative race, the most creative, the most intrepid... and the most gullible. What we believe today about the morality of racial profiling depends entirely on which direction the propaganda winds are blowing today on our TV and in our newspaper headlines.

Next month, those moral winds might well be blowing in the opposite direction, and White TV watchers will tumble thataway with no more memory of last month's trend than leaves blowing in the wind.

2006-08-16 12:49:04 · answer #1 · answered by David S 5 · 0 1

The more basic question is "is profiling Ok in law enforcment or security?" Why does the fact that it is racially based make it suddently more suspect?

Profiling is a tool to identify a subset of people to examine more closely when you don't have the time or resources to examine EVERYONE. If the investigation does not violate personal rights, then the fact that the decision was based upon a profile match doesn't change it into a "civil rights matter" because anyone COULD have been investigated... it's just that these SPECIFIC people were.

Prove to me that profiling at all is bad, i.e. unjust, and then we can talk about it... until then, slapping racial on top of it is your way to dilute the real issue and drum up emotion based reactions.

2006-08-16 12:43:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think it's okay, but I'm conservative like that. :) I also don't feel it's strictly a racial thing. Granted, you pick out people based on their physical appearances (which is racial, yes), but it's only done because a certain cultural group is the one causing problems. I wouldn't be so for it if it didn't work. Even though the same amount of weapons is getting through during security tests, they'yre not getting through when it counts. It would be different if the terrorists weren't ALWAYS Middle Eastern. Sucks if you're Indian though.

2006-08-16 13:17:25 · answer #3 · answered by elizabeth_ashley44 7 · 0 0

Duh!!!! You search the one who fits the description of the people who normally do these things. The flights on 9/11 were not hijacked by old ladies in walkers, and neither were the planned attacks recently foiled in the UK. They were hijacked by ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST WHACKOS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, and I dont want to hear anyone say that searching them isn't ethical or politically freakin' correct. When there is a possibility of a terrorist attack, we don't have time to worry about these people's feelings for being stopped for 30 seconds. I am not saying that they are the only ones who should be stopped, but they should be a priority, because if we try to be PC we'll end up searching old ladies, and NOT Baba Rajib.

2006-08-16 13:05:19 · answer #4 · answered by NY Golfer 2 · 0 0

From the events that happened here in London last year with the shooting of an innocent Brazilian it seems to me that most "whites" (I hate that word) can't tell one dark skinned culture from another. If you haven't got minimum melanin then you are suspect, eh?

Well, I'm of lighter pigmentation with green eyes, yet of Pakistani Pashtoon descent, as is my blonde grandaughter. I was also raised a moslem. But could I be a terrorist? Some unlikely reasoning here, methinks.

I just doesn't fit! (p.s. I'm not 65 yet though)

2006-08-16 12:58:16 · answer #5 · answered by copperyclover 3 · 0 0

Well...the 65 yr old Asian lady might have some tubes of lip gloss or facial cream with her and therefore according to our government is the greater risk.

What a wonderful world.

2006-08-16 12:40:16 · answer #6 · answered by krystlebluewaves 2 · 0 1

Round up all the liberals in this country. Put them on planes and fly them to Iran..Syria and Afghanistan. If they land safely...the rest of us here at home will pay to send them prayer rugs and Berkas for the women. Let them live in this world. They are socialist fools and need a lesson.

2006-08-16 12:50:52 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The one that gives rise to a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, or that gives rise to a reasonable suspicion of being armed and presently dangerous. That's the constitutional requirement for a frisk, as defined by the US Supreme Court.

And religious or ethnic affiliation by itself is not grounds for reasonable suspicion, only irrational prejudice.

Not only is racial profiling a blatant constitutional violation under the 14th Amendment, but it is also counter productive. As soon as security focuses on one particular group or practice above others, it creates weaknesses in the entire security system.

And that kind of predictability just makes it all the much easier for people who are trying to avoid security to slip by, because they know what to expect from the security guards so they can take advantage of those blind spots.

But if you want to profile one particular religion or race or ethic group go ahead. You'll just guarantee missing the next real threat, because whatever the security guard are looking for, I guarantee the next real threat will be something else.

2006-08-16 12:37:59 · answer #8 · answered by coragryph 7 · 3 3

I'd say it's fair to only frisk muslims, when you're trying to stop muslims from blowing up your plane - so long as you can reliably identify people as Muslims or not. As these TSA people don't look like the shiniest coin in the fountain.....I don't trust them completely yet.

2006-08-16 12:39:31 · answer #9 · answered by dryheatdave 6 · 1 1

yes i agree with racial profiling if all of a sudden people of asian decent started trying to commit these crimes then the same would hold true.......as the old saying goes "one bad apple can ruin the whole bunch"

2006-08-16 12:41:28 · answer #10 · answered by dumbdumb 4 · 0 1

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