Is China a good example of somewhere that communism is working?

Question

I'll wait to see if I get any of the usual moronic answers before I add details.

Answer 1

If working = economy improving, then I guess yes it might work because:

1) Under 1 party rule it doesn't have to please everyone to get the job done. Eg no strikes are allowed, which provides certainty and stability for business and costs are low. This is a big plus for businesses because the government can do whatever it takes to get the job done - mass closures of state run enterprises, unlimited working hours. Whereas other countries like France and Germany have strong labour laws which protect the employees but also make it difficult for employers to cut costs by retrenching, increasing work hours per week, etc.

2) It can deal with dirty, tough issues such as sourcing energy and trading with other countries with dubious human rights records without the fear of being voted out in elections.

3) As the economy grows it's becoming more and more capitalist because people are out there to make money for themselves. The economy is the #1 priority, and as it grows the nature of the government must also evolve, and becomes less communist in the purist sense.

If working = society is progressing, then yes and no:
1) With little transparency and checks on government, it breeds more corruption

2) Human rights is still a big issue - journalists being put in jail, Xinjiang, Tibet independence activists, falungong believers all being oppressed.

3) Divide between the rich and poor is growing even larger. The rich are extremely rich, and the poorest still live like peasants.

4) Welfare - what welfare? Health and education is not free anymore.

5) Pollution, environmental degradation issues.

6) Information is being suppressed, hiding instances of abuse of power and corruption, lack of freedom of expression.

It's important to note that even though we want China to change instantly, it's a bit difficult to do for a 1.6b people country. It does have a lot of faults, but no one can say that the communist party isn't doing a fantastic job with the economy. If it was a democracy, I wonder if it could have made such a rapid transformation in so little time...

Answer 2

In its ideal form, social classes cease to exist, there is no coercive governmental structures, and everyone lives in abundance without supervision from a ruling class.

Well, Living and working in China, I can tell you that there are a lot of gaps now here, between people living in the countryside and people living on the big cities. So there is not communism anymore if there has ever been, people here seek their best interest which are most of the time to make money in order to be rich. Rich people invest money to get more money, we are deep into capitalism...

And for what concerns the government, well I wont say anything, I dont want to go to a rehabilitation farm...

Answer 3

If suppressing the people can be called communism working then yes it is.
I remember Tienanmen Square.

Sorry I still remember the images I saw on the TV and I am not trying to give you a moronic answer.

The link below is for amnesty International and it tells you what happened.

Answer 4

Cuba is where communism works best, but it's still pretty far from The Manifesto, and the fact it works is mostly because of Castro. Once someone else takes over then Cuban Communism will probably go seriously downhill and be overthrown.

Answer 5

The parts of China that are working well are those that have opened up to Capitalism. It's foreign investment that will drag China out of the 19th century.

Answer 6

well when and if communism ends/lets up China will really take off! There are still too many restrictions imposed like that banks cannot invest in the markets etc.

Answer 7

I don't think that China is really a 100% communist state now. They still use some of the "communist" government practices like central control and censorship but there the economy and business is booming because of Capitilism.

Answer 8

Where you been?
Its now a capitalist society under totalitarian control.
Communism when out with Dung Xao Ping.

So no.
No communism in China.

Answer 9

Hardly. China has embraced capitalism. It's government however is a draconian dictatorship. Moronic enough for you?

Answer 10

I wouldn't say China is purely communist. Some areas are, while others are capatilist in essence.