Recent terrorist alert changes?

Question

Well as per home office statement on BBC in UK just now.. some minor things have changed! Meanwhile a BA flight bound for New York has had to turn back, because a mobile phone was found on someone's person! Firstly how the heck did this person and phone get through the heightened security??? And also does this person not watch the news.. to know they shouldn't have it with them? and Thirdly if you were clever enuf to get it thru.. shouldn't you just have hidden it!!! It's pathetic that there is no consitency! eg.. you are not meant to have lighters on your person to the US and back.. this has been in place for a while! I have managed to fly with a lighter in my handbag.. so the airport authorities really need to get their act together or these terrorists will manage mass murder by seeing through the loop holes..your views please!! scary stuff!

re flicky.. anything flammable on an aircraft has an immense effect! The quickness that a fire starts and the density of the smoke that starts from that fire..is extreme!! Also a cell phone can be used as a device to detinate a bomb! People are not being paranoid... all these things are for real and need dealing with! Sadly it waits until things are imminent or do happen before they implement things.. why not do them beforehand..that's wot gets me!

Answer 1

These security measures are being enforced by human beings & no human being is 100% perfect & efficient 100% of the time. People make mistakes, always have, always will. All I can say is that they are doing what they think is best under the current circumstances.


As for ALEX B I just have to say this -

Yes it´´s the governments & securitý services who say that there is a terrorist threat - they are the people who are going to know about it, noone else. Who do you expect the alerts to come from? Bugs Bunny????

And so far you will not have seen any positive proof or evidence that such a threat really exists - what makes you so bloody special that you think the government has to clear things with you before they do anything?? You talk of security officials being paranoid, but I think you´re the one with paranoid fantasies here!

I bet you wouldn´t be calling the governments paranoid & over-reactive if the attacks had actually taken place, would you? No, then you´d have been calling them incompetent idiots. People with attitudes like yours really wind me up - never satisfied, no matter who does what or what the results are.

As for finding the security reaction ridiculous & offensive, well that´s your opinion & you´re entitled to it. Just don´t fly & you won´t have to worry about any stupid, ridiculous, paranoid, over-reaction by the governments or security services, will you?

Passengers bullied & treated like cattle are they? Well I suppose you´re one of the few people who would rather see innocent people getting blown up in mid-air then, are you? For goodness sake, get off of your high-horse & stop criticising these people who are only doing their utmost to protect us all- their jobs are difficult enough, without the likes of you putting your rusty pennies worth in!

I honestly wonder how different your attitude would be if you had a member of your family on board a plane that got blown up over the middle of the Atlantic. These are very sad times that we live in now & there are some extremely sick, perverse people out there who are insistant on death & destruction & believe it or not, the governments & security are the good guys in this senario, trying to protect us from those madmen!

Personally, I will not stop flying and if I am told that I have to be strip-searched & can´t take this, that or the other on board a plane with me, then I will comply without a moan.

As for top officials not getting strip-searched etc, it is obvious why they are not asked to go through the same procedures as the public because they don´t take commercial flights - they have their own security arrangements which, I´m sure are a lot more stringent.

Sounds to me like you´re the one who needs to come to your senses, not the governments or the security services - I raise my hat to them & thank them for doing their best under very difficult circumstances.

Answer 2

Who says that there is a terrorist threat and that we all have to obey their new rules? The governments and security services of the US and the UK.
So far I have not seen any positive proof or evidence that such a threat really exists. It might well be that it exists only in the mind and fantasies of paranoid security officials, who keep themselves heavily occupied and considered important that way.

Reminds me of the last phase of the "Cold War", when the West got more and more intelligence and evidence that the USSR was no longer able to keep pace with us and was therefore no longer a real threat. Despite the clarity of the evidence collected by the intelligence services, the leaders of CIA, NSA and other agencies chose to reject it as "unreliable", as it would have meant a stop to some of their programmes and a downgrading of their status.

Personally I find the paranoid over-reaction of governments and airline officials ridiculous and offensive. Although I used to fly a lot in the past, I have decided to make a stand on this. I will not use any aeroplane as long as passengers are bullied and treated in a worse way than cattle. Who do these people think they are when they order every passenger to be strip-searched by un-educated thugs? What do they think when they decide that we can now no longer take personal belongings as hand luggage? There are certain personal things I would never let out of my sight!
The airlines seem to be happy to play poodle to the security guys and go along with every demand, no matter how stupid it is. They are no longer a transport industry serving us, the passengers, but a bullying instrument of right-wing paranoid governments.
It is interesting to notice that the people who are responsible for all the commotion - the leaders and government officials of the US and the UK - are not subject to all those stringent controls when they use air transport. They are not asked to take their shoes off, are not fingered up by disgusting individuals, and have not to leave their personal belongings behind. Why is that? Is not security the same for everyone? Or are - once again - some of us more equal than others?
If we let them get away with all this, we have no right to complain that we are no longer free citizens, but pushed around robots. If we make a stand, things will change for the better. After all, the airlines need us and our money. If we stop flying under the newly imposed conditions, they will come to their senses very soon.

Answer 3

I have always maintained that we will never tighten up security to the level that will impede another 9/11 type strike. I make it through 2 airport screenings with a pair of cuticle scissors on my carry on bag--I forgot it was in my makeup bag. It was only at the 3rd airport that they discovered it. Makes you feel all secure, doesn't it?

Personally, we shouldn't worry too much about airlines as being terrorist weapons. They already tried that once--we aren't making it easy now, even though most security people at the airports are idiots in my opinion. The terorists will look for better methods to get to us--we should be focusing on our ports and what is being shipped in those thousands of containers that enter our borders everyday. In the US, we only screen a very small percentage of them. Very easy for terrorists to bring in a dirty bomb or bomb making materials--chances are those containers won't be searched. We should be more concerned with that kind of stuff instead of worrying about whether or not airplanes will crash into buildings. We won't let that happen again. A dirty bomb--that could do a lot more damage to people than any airplane can. That is the scary stuff we should be worrying about.

Answer 4

I think that there focus is all wrong.

Security alerts are driven by fear.

Instead of trying to protect ourselves from every danger, we should try to prepare for handling contingencies.

They have developed spy planes that can be flown remotely. Why couldn't they develop airplanes that can be flown remotely.

If as soon as a terrorist raises his head the pilot flips a switch that signals a remote pilot in an airport to start flying the plane, then the terrorist has no control.

What if, they installed jets to dispense ether on an airplane as soon as a terrorist raises his head. If the pilot were in a secure cockpit, he could have cameras viewing the entire cabin, and as soon as a terrorist raises his head he can release the gas that puts everybody to sleep, including the terrorist.

What if the airline companies contracted out with somebody to sell personal hygiene items at greatly discounted costs in airports, then people could buy everything they needed so cheaply that they wouldn't need to carry it, and the airline could implement some kind of no carry on policy.

Answer 5

In the US this week they busted two different groups of men with thousands of pre-paid cell phones. They were driving around buying up all the phones at Walmarts. How many bombs were these guys going to make?

One of the people busted in the UK plane plot worked security at Heathrowe.

I think it is time to try and figure out how to fix what is making these people crazy. Or is it too late?

Answer 6

Airport security is about making the public feel safe and keep flying.

I heard that the terrorists are going to drink the bad liquids and then piss on each other mid flight to blow up the plane.

Answer 7

all i have to was is wow its a cell phone.. people now days are way to paranoid to fly anymore..what harm is someone going to do with a lighter.. im sure that if someone lit something on fire in a plane the would just get beat up.. like come on people why are we all so paranoid of whats going to happen

Answer 8

The threat from terrorism might want to ok were stepped up a notch right here in London, who knows? Few human beings look even vaguely attentive to it. As one WW2 veteran reported some months back, "they couldn't get us all". He grow to be proper, so why attempt to inject 'panic' into the gang? Londoner's do merely not provide a damn. i recognize of one WW2 London artist, who in the course of the Blitz spent his time drawing sketches of the Luftwaffe planes overhead, even as waiting for the air raid to end. i have been in some air raids myself, even as i grow to be about 3. no longer very fantastic yet some distance more effective awesome than a 10 pound body bomb, that's for constructive. The bomb 'what' blew up the bus went off about 100 yards from me. maximum folk round merely omitted it. i grow to be driving on the time and merely headed north and drove on proper out of London and got here back abode by skill of the M25, which on the prompt grow to be quick flowing. It were given jammed as more effective joined it later even as significant London were given gridlocked. Blimey! That grow to be the 7/7 adventure. The terrorist threat comes from interior and is amazingly not likely to go back in a truck load. properly, wish no longer. I recommend, the IRA managed a truck load or 2 right here in London and Birmingham and N.eire and so on. Who knows besides?

Answer 9

The funniest thing is that you have always had to turn off mobile phones in flight anyway!

Answer 10

alert changes...it is always changing...terrorist for me is a weapon for economics...just like blockade and something...

UK has lost millions of dollars a day just for that term terrorist...and who give that information to the UK? you know who does...