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2006-08-13
19:05:39
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Coragryph, so your saying the Army didnt prosecute soldiers for there individual offenses? Thats funny cause I seem to remember that PFC Sunday got ten years Levinworth for harrasing them.And the others are recieving the same unbiased punishments.
Even though they behead our boys when taken captive Im really torn up about them being stacked into a naked pyramid.Its hard for me to pry that type of terrorist loving sympathy from my heart as easy as you are able to. please forgive us
2006-08-13
19:16:44 ·
update #1
Yeah mark what is wrong with you and palestinians.They have the whole cookie and are beating isreal up for taking a cookie crumb Isreal.Stingy huh?
2006-08-13
19:20:30 ·
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hahahahahaha elliot and wild rover, these terrorists dont give a hoot about freedom and equality .heres how there koran tells them to treat you two.Qur’an:9:5“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112“The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29“Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Ishaq:325“Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”
Qur’an:8:39“Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
If you would like the other 50 verses then e-mail me.
2006-08-13
19:23:30 ·
update #3
hahahaa kevin, yeah hezbollah terrorists help get you clean water to wipe off the gunpowder and blood from your clothes after they use you as a human shield.Real nice productive gregarious bunch those hezbollo's.im pretty sure lebanon can achieve clean water without a group of marading terrorists.What are they water purification specialists and just terrorists on there free time?
2006-08-13
19:28:24 ·
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coragryph, you are close but you are obviously biased against the american military.
the general in charge at Abu ghraib was relieved which is a mortal blow to any further career she expects to have in the Army.You also assume and speculate way too often to be taken as a real and sensible voice.
You were on the U-boat band wagon werent you.You were the guy villifying President Bush till it was found out to be a completely bogus accusation.Your a heck of a guy.
2006-08-13
19:41:24 ·
update #5
Nefarious the only people afraid of the patriot act are criminals, terrorists, and you.What are you looking at on the internet that you are afraid of the government finding out about?huh?what are you saying that you are afraid of the government finding out about?What books are you checking out at the library that you are afraid of being found out about?
2006-08-13
19:45:03 ·
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HHAHAHAAHAAa nefarious proposes that addresing world poverty will stop terrorism.Yeah osama Bin Ladin has a billion dollars but he needs your two cents.Hey keep your two cents nefarious.
2006-08-13
19:47:19 ·
update #7
This type of liberal mentality is precisly how Hitler was able to accomplish killing 6 million jews.
Everyone looked the other way till it was far too late.
And if you dont believe that muslim terrorists hate jews as much as he did then you have some reading to do .
They hate the U.S. for supporting Israel as well.
We as Americans have the concept of tolerance and understanding.
These are foreign concepts to these people.
Pull head out of sand, get off your couch and read about the korans military oriented verses.
2006-08-13
20:07:25 ·
update #8
I'm convinced the only way to eliminate terrorism is to meet them with force. Terrorists are beyond reasoning, and they have no sense of what the West regards as compassion, respect, or the overall sanctity of life. There is evidence enough of this in their tactics against their enemies.
Anyone who thinks that animals like this can be changed are only deluding themselves. After September 11th, it's obvious to me these are beings who sacrificed their right to be reasoned with. The only solution lies in destroying them. They have no place in civilized society.
2006-08-13 19:24:40
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answered by replicant21 3
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Liberals don't object to attacking terrorists. Or prosecuting terrorists that are captured.
They just want the government to follow its own laws when doing so.
It's really sad that people think it's OK for our government to ignore its own laws. Not even noble ends justify criminal means.
{EDIT} Yes, some of the soldiers who committed war crimes were prosecuted. But generally only those caught on tape, not the ones that gave the orders.
Willful and blatant disregard for the rules, especially coming from ranking officers and elected officials, only drags us down to the same level as the terrorists and tyrants we fight.
How can we claim any moral outrage at what terrorists do when we torture prisons in violation of our own laws. How can we expect our troops to even remember what we're fighting for, if we encourage the same atrocities that the terrorists commit.
If we are going to be a nation of laws, then we must abide by our own laws. If we don't, how are we any better than those we hate?
Let the military do its job. Let the fight the bad guys. Absolutely. Nobody is arguing that. But don't let them become the bad guys, because we have abandoned the liberties and the bravery and the integrity that our soldiers are fighting for in the first place.
2006-08-14 02:10:09
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answered by coragryph 7
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1) Not use terrorism as an excuse to over reach constitutional powers.
2) not use terrorism as an excuse to voilate 4th amdenment rights of American citizens
3) Not break from previous treaties or rather not subscribe to the "Clean Break Policy"
4) Not use america as empire.
5) Not create future terrorist like Osama during the 80's and arm dicators like Saddam during the 80's to create blow back
6) Not use U.N security council veto to allow Isreal to violate more than six UN. mandates.
7) Stop calling it a war........
and begin to fight it without the military being the first solution.
the systems of law enforcement that currently exisist such as NSA, CIA and FBI even the state dept. to some extent are more than capable to fight terror...
the problem is connecting the dot, and the culture of such institutions.
watch this doc on John Oniel that addresses the culture of institution when it comes to fighting terror.....new ideas and experts are often silenced.
John Oniels story is a lesson...from the cole to the milliuem plot to 9/11
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/view/
There needs a definite culture change in these institutions......
for example the DOD stalling on sending in ground troops into tora bora because Rumsfeld didn't like taking orders from the CIA.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/
we also have to stop rewarding failure...rumsfeld is case one, but they awarded presidnetial medals of freedom to Tennent who got it all wrong, bremmer who let the Iraq fall apart
Military action should be used, but not as the first solution and not by ourselves...
this notion that the UN is not part of the solution is ridiculous.Unrealistic and half asssed.
Intellegence is always your first line, but wire taps and spying isn't what works...its good old fashion informants.
it kills me when someone says if we had wire tapps or domestic spying we could have prevented ....
we had an FBI informant living with the terrorist of 9/11 what more do you need? it was a breakdown in the system.
How are terrorist funded, diamonds, oil, and herion come to mind.....we know this, they don't use banks so all this NY Times tratior nonsense is just that.
we montior and sieze....even if Pat Roberts of th 700 club has diamond deals in africa, with the same countries that terrorist use to trade in diamonds.
Rebuilding nations in a just and humane way....not a sell out Haliburton. If all iraqius had jobs and water and electricity...if they really had a real hand in rebuilding many would feel a sense of preserving the Iraqi state instead of tribal loyalty or even giving the Foriegn terrorist the time of day.
if the troops had been put in with the right numbers from day one, we could have secured the borders to stop forienger from coming in.
and we should have rebuilt Afganistan.....first.that would have been the best proof of American Justice....but no..we left.
and pulled many troops out.
Mostly the way you defeat terrorism is to address the issue of world poverty....
people with a job and steady income don't blow themselves up out of desperation...........
The roots of terrorist must be addressed......not everyone is radical and relgious fanatic...but will support them if the world they live in is desperate.
Theres so much more to say but this is all for now.
2006-08-14 02:40:16
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answered by nefariousx 6
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The solution to terrorism is freedom, justice and equality. Treating people with respect and not taking one side over another will help broker peace. A two state solution would defeat one of the main grievances of terrorists. If America gave the PLO billions of dollars like Israel then they could help their own people. Working with the international community would also help in the war against terror.
2006-08-14 02:15:01
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answered by Anonymous
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Instead of bombing the living **** out of the countries we should foster non radical Muslims distancing themselves from radical ones, this will lead to increased arrests when people notice things are weird among a neighbor. Also offer aid along with food and water.
Do you know why Hezbollah has such far reaching influence? They help all the citizens in their areas get clean water, and other necessary things. The U.S. should take this model and emulate it, but obviously not towards launching missiles at other countries.
The big thing is to step down our presence in the Middle East, this will reduce the number of people pissed off at us reducing the number of terrorists, the law enforcement in the countries need to learn to deal with the threat anyways and will be far more likely to get leads towards arrests due to people feeling more confident tipping off police of their own nationality.
The larger our presence the more terrorists we will see and the more attacks. We need to atleast pretend to be trying to help them and we will see amazing results. Afterall parts of Iraq are still in the stoneage because we bombed their utilities.
This actually was semi proven to work in the latest foiled terrorist plot, there were a couple tip offs by non radical Muslims to the British authorities which led to the infilitration, and watching of the group.
"hahahaa kevin, yeah hezbollah terrorists help get you clean water to wipe off the gunpowder and blood from your clothes after they use you as a human shield.Real nice productive gregarious bunch those hezbollo's.im pretty sure lebanon can achieve clean water without a group of marading terrorists.What are they water purification specialists and just terrorists on there free time"
You obviously missed the point, the point is to provide for the local people and help them get back on their feet not to treat them with hostility and turn a cold shoulder. I do not support the use of human shields, and that was in no way communicated through what I posted.
Both these links describe what Hezbollah does.
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&trh=20060812&hn=35588
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/08/12/10059385.html
"We as Americans have the concept of tolerance and understanding.
These are foreign concepts to these people.
Pull head out of sand, get off your couch and read about the korans military oriented verses."
Really tolerance just take at the look of questions on here about hating Muslims, tolerance I see. I have read about the Qur'ans military versus since I have read portions of the Qur'an. You are deviating away from the original question.
If I may I would like to pose a question to you, I will answer it after. If we were hypothetically invaded by another country they bombed our utilities, you had no running water, no electricity, the streets smelled and were littered with rubble, no one was aiding you, your friends and family were killed. Would you be angry? Would this lead you to attack the invaders? Do you think other Americans would attack the invaders? If you were provided food, medicine, water would you distance yourself from those who did attack the invader and possibly tip off the local occupational police?
This type of question is meant to put you in their place. Personally I would turn to violence to try to rid myself of the invader who was killing people around me, but if I knew that I was going to get much needed medicine, water, and food I would be appeased and would offer my assistance in ridding the country of extremeist. Don't you think this same thing would work with Islamic extremists?
2006-08-14 02:22:11
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answered by Kevin S 3
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Fix the social problems that lead to the birth of terrorism and stop playing games in other countries ie: supporting tyrants who murder their own people while lining their pockets with American funds meant for said peoples relief..Peace.
2006-08-14 02:14:50
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answered by wildrover 6
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The damnocrats have no solutions and no agenda, only a hate for the country they live in
2006-08-14 06:08:18
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answered by Anonymous
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End Israeli occupation for start you are a Zionist Jew who will divert any thing that serve Israel not the USA
2006-08-14 02:12:21
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answered by Anonymous
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appease them! appease them to no end! lets all give up our freedom and turn the US into a sandy wasteland, then pledge our allegence to mecca. burkas for everybody!. yay!
just kidding. theres no such thing as a liberal solution to terrorism.
2006-08-14 02:13:41
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answered by Stand-up Philosopher 5
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They want to offer them love, understanding, compassion and friendship as their heads are being cut off.
2006-08-14 02:24:45
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answered by Anonymous
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