Will you allow yoursell to be chipped by the Govermnet?

Question

It has been passed that by may 2008 all united states people will have to have a tracking chip placed in your drivers license and id's like social security cards ,credit cards and banks cards.
You can refuse but if you do you cant bord a plain,train,have a bank account and so on. Will you allow yourself to be chipped?
see here for the whole story
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

for those of you who think I am pulling this out of the air watch cnn it has already been voted on and ruled on in our goverment and has been passed! It is nota security device it is a tracking divice. they even said so on cnn. Bush himself eastablished this when he also changed the laws for him or any pres to be able tpo check your email, tap your phone or jail you in the name of the giv with out just cause .
the guidelines for this chip also state that by 2010 they would like to make sure that every us person has a chip inbedded in them ( babies at birth) so they can be followed. This will also have our money on it so they can take your money at any given time. Some people who have posted here really need tow atch senate meetings on tv and cnn more often!

Answer 1

To those who post to use a real site. Check the congressional database. This was passed into law in Feb 2005. All states are required to create driver's licenses with RFID technology by 2008. States are not compelled to comply specifically, but it has been stated that failing to do so will prevent citizens of the given state from being able to board aircraft or trains. These chips are already being placed in US passports. I am not an Orweillian type person, nor do I have anything to hide from the government, but RFID technology is a bit disturbing. We want to believe that they are these simple little chips that retailers use to prevent theft. The technology has progressed much further than that, and it gets more advanced everyday. If Americans keep denying the danger posed by these chips, we are going to wake up one day and find a new law requiring body implants. The one thing you can be sure of with government is that they will always take things to far if left to their own devices unchecked. Whether you believe in the dangers or not, I urge everyone to get educated on what these chips can actually do.

http://www.spychips.com

flbuffalo01: It is definitely a law as it relates to placement of chips in state ID cards. The government cannot force you to take a chip, but they can make it very difficult for you if you don't. I do not fear the technology in and of itself. What I fear is the potential abuses, and trust me there is alot of room for abuse. I cannot confirm the questioner's contentions about 2010, and required implants. My thought is that people should know what they are facing in the near future. As for it reducing fraud, I have to disagree. There are already portable readers available to interogate these chips. If implants containing all your personal data (medical records, ID info, bank accounts, etc.) become a reality, anyone who gets close enough to you with one of these readers will know everything about you. In my opinion more access to personal information is not the way to protect personal information.

Answer 2

I have not found this law yet, so I'll assume that you are right. The problem is that nothing listed that will require the chip is a constitutional right. The majority of the population want the government to come running to their aid when something happens. For example, your bank account is insured by the government against loss due to circumstances other than your own, IE theft. So if the government is expected to protect everyone, why can they not make it easier to do so? Credit card fraud and bank fraud would be a thing of the past with the chip. What few people actually understand is that the government already knows what most people are doing or can access the information. It is how they find criminals using credit or bank cards. If you live in a city, some day this week look around and count the number of cameras that are filming you everyday. Stores, banks, traffic lights, etc., they are everywhere.
It just hit me what chip you are talking about. (though I still have not seen the law and stand by what I already wrote). If you want to know what the chip is really like ask military personnel, they already have it for identification.

bryrose:
I'm not doubting the law exists, I just have not seen it on the news or had the time to look for it yet. When I checked your link I remembered hearing about the chip the military uses, I assume this is the same one, if I remember right the company is Guardian Angel, or I may have my stories confused.
Either way, I am very aware of the potential misuse of technology. I heard an interview friday with the Attorney General of the U.S. about the terrorist plot in London, he mentioned that he does not have an e-mail account, business or personal, because of what can be done with them as far as privacy invasion. I believe that we can overreact as well as stay protected. If people really though about it, many would not even have access to the net. All technology has a place and use. We can fear it or learn about it. Personally, considering the state the world is in, I am willing to give up some privacy for protection, I know the Constitution purists would disagree, but the founding fathers never had to fight an army that does not wear a uniform.

Answer 3

Let me see, the same chip they are now already using if you get a passport ???

And people are not having any chip put in their, their ID cards will contain electronic informaton to make faking or false ID cards harder. What is wrong with making security better in the US.

People did not want social security cards when they came out, they said this was the sign of the devil, They did not want drivers licence because it restricted thier right to drive, They did not want credit cards it was also the sign of the devil

I see no issue with it, and hope it works as well as it should

Answer 4

And the difference between this and a credit card or Social security number is what ? As long as it is not implanted in the skin or brain, you already have it. Further more, driver license is handled by states and not the federal. Trying using a real sight for information and not a cook sight.

Answer 5

We must fight the New World Order, and the fascist police state they are imposing on us. Each of us must ask them-self, are we going to sheepishly submit to those evil tyrants, or are we going to rise up and take back our constitutional democracy? The choice is ours. All they that receive the mark, will have their place in the lake of fire. The children of darkness are taking over. Are we going to let them, or are we going to fight? True, we probably really haven't got a chance against these guys, but we cannot allow them to beat us into submission, and make us their slave robots. I myself would rather die.

Answer 6

Dude, do you even care approximately your Potato Chip? because of the fact I doubt you're able to even think of approximately allowing it in case you probably did. Be strict! shop your toddler faraway from stuff like... Tiger Woods.

Answer 7

i think they have raised a what if scenario. Not necessarily what is happening. They are discussing chipping passports. Which is a good thing. You need to provide a more reliable source.

Answer 8

I think your sources may be little wrong on this one, then again it is an overly libertain dot com site.

Answer 9

I'd like to quote the USMC's saying, "Death before Dishonor".

I'd choose death before I'd be "chipped" by the government.

Answer 10

no 666