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people tell me i'm going to hell for being gay-what do ya'll think?

2006-08-12 17:21:22 · 28 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

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bull crap, you cant help being what you are, ignore all the bible thumpers and just dont hurt other people.

2006-08-12 17:24:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I think there are better reasons for being in hell! look around you, can you see all the evil? the killing, raping, abusing, stealing, the war etc....
We are all gods children, and god loves us. Plus I believe that God made each one of us the way we are, so why will he condemn us to hell.
Be strong and if you are happy with yourself then forget those people around you. Take the good and throw the bad. For those people, how do they know they wont go to hell for judging? I thought that was gods job!

2006-08-13 00:30:26 · answer #2 · answered by WICCA 4 · 2 0

The idea that God sends homosexuals to hell is not a Christian idea, it belongs to Biblio-idolatry. The Bible did not exist until nearly 400 AD in anything resembling its present form. The Canon of books as we know them was not created until the Council of Carthage.

The fragments we have of early manuscripts of the canonical books differ from one other. There are, by the lowest estimates, about 200,000 differences between the available early fragments. There are no autographs of the Bible -- and the earliest versions written are not something we have. Instead we have thousands of copies of copies of translations of copies. Reasonable scholarly study will show anyone willing to pursue it that the Bible we have is not only NOT anything resembling the original versions of the books that comprise it -- but that we have no idea of what those books might have said. Over a hundred years of Textual Criticism (a theological field where a scholar attempts to recreate what the originals probably said) has failed to yield any better understanding than we had -- and many textual critics are now saying that the search itself is meaningless, that we cannot ever know what the originals said. (See Dr. Bart Erhman; Misquoting Jesus; Harper SanFrancisco; 2006 -- for detailed explanation)

So does the "Bible" condemn homosexuality? In some forms. Is the Bible an authentic copy of anything that MIGHT EVEN POSSIBLY be divine? No.

If looking at the inconsistencies is not enough to convince you -- then I suggest looking at the errors in the received text. Sola Scriptura cannot possibly withstand even a casual but serious and honest examination of the texts.

The Bible says that the world has corners (Isaiah 11:12) and that it sets on pillars (I Samuel 2:8). It says that God accepted a human sacrifice -- he may have prevented Isaac's, but he allowed a general to sacrifice his own daughter without even a murmur, the text giving tacit support to the idea that having given his word, the man had to kill his child. (Judges 11:30-39). It clearly maintains that genocide is often commanded by God (Joshua 10:40-42 and I Samuel 15: 2, 3 and 8) and that, after killing all the adults in a race, taking the female children as sex slaves is permissible (Numbers 31: 17-18).

The God revealed by the Bible is not only both a liar who doesn't know the natural laws of his own world, and a monster, as shown above -- but he has no real regard, even for his own people, whom he forces into cannibalism (Leviticus 26: 27-29) when he is mad at them; or his priests, whose faces he wipes with dung (Malachi 2:1-3).

It is not only gays and lesbians that are hated by bible-god. This monstrosity also suggests killing kids who eat or drink too much (Deuteronomy 21: 18-21), and says that if he is angry with parents he will kill their children (Leviticus 26:22) and he blames things upon children whose great-great-great grandfathers committed the things being blamed on the kids (Exodus 20: 5).

Putting it in a word, bible-god is a monstrosity, a horrific demiurge of evil. Something that even he admits ( Isaiah 45:7 ) [Furthermore, the word used in Hebrew for evil, the word ra' is widely conceded to mean a number of different things: It can mean "wickedness," "mischief," "bad," "trouble," "hurt," "sore," "affliction," "ill," "adversity," "harm," "grievous," and "sad." So no matter what particular interpretation is given of this word -- it has profoundly negative implications. The idea that god is sovereign over the affairs of man makes this even worse, because no matter what interpretation it has, it indicates that bible-god deliberately does harm.]; evil about which he sometimes changes his mind (Exodus 32:14). What a font of unchanging morality -- that almighty God can decide to kill an entire people, and then be talked out of it by a human servant... Furthermore, it is obvious, if God can change his mind, then even if the Bible were not full of errors and horrors, you could not trust that God had not changed his mind on any other issue in it.

So, yes, I suppose if one wants to take as truth a book that says that beetles have four legs instead of six (Leviticus 11: 21-23) and that rabbits chew their cud [which they do NOT] (Deuteronomy 14:7) and if you are willing to, having accepted it as truth, overlook the fact that bible-god routinely changed his mind (I can show you other instances if you wish) then yeah, I suppose its words would matter and gays are therefore going to hell.

I on the other hand, while a Christian (as in Christ follower) am NOT a literalist, and do not think that a book of bronze age myths owing heavily to the Sumerian and Egyptian myths in the Old Testament and to a collection of pagan faiths, particularly Mithraism in the New Testament matters at all.

Christianity is centered around love, faith in Christ, and Eucharist. At best the Bible is sacred because of its place in the life of the early church and should be regarded as holy myth -- stress on the myth.

I don't expect anyone I know who is gay will be going to the mythic hell it talks about.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org
believeinyou24@yahoo.com

2006-08-13 10:57:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

People say , people copy, people pray, people smoking a joint and cussing like a sailor to hell send a gay; for being different:):).
The banker screws up your credit with one late fee, but steals millions from his clients, and leads the church in collecting funds(others, not his) while giving credit to god for saving him.
Personally I wish you were not gay, but a lot of people think enough of me to wish I was christian and for that I am grateful and think them. So I do not think your chances of going to hell is any higher than those who would send you there.
My personal opinion is that when you die that's it folks; It's all over.no after life, and no resurrection or jesus just a quiet return to nature eventually as the dust you were born of and what is wrong with that.

2006-08-13 00:34:11 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

What do you think?

Is your God a God that sends somebody to hell for loving someone?

Do you think your God will talk to you before sending you to haven or hell or whatever to see how you feel about your relationships?

Did your God make you a lesbian?

Does your God make mistakes? Do you think you are a mistake or just the way he or she wanted you to be?

Do you think true love is good or not?

Do you think "they" know what God is thinking or should you ask God yourself?

Have you asked God?

Does your God have a good sense of humor?

My God and Goddess both have a great sense of humor and are all about true love. You should be happy you are you, just the way you are. Be a nice person and try to do good in the world and all will be OK. Peace.

2006-08-13 00:33:08 · answer #5 · answered by MindStorm 6 · 2 0

I seriously don't believe that if there is a "God" and if he "loves everyone" that he could send gays and bi people to hell...It's just really not fair that if someone just is one way without their choice that they go to hell for it (I'm all in favor of gay marriage, and I'm also an atheist because of the Christian belief about gays...) It'd just be wrong and so un-christian...I mean, whatever happened to "do unto others" and all their other nice-nice bullshit...

2006-08-13 00:27:01 · answer #6 · answered by xcrimsonxphoenixofxhellx 3 · 1 0

Sin requires that the person knowingly violates God's will. If you do not recognize that homosexuality is against God's will then you are either naive, ignorant, or in denial. Homosexuality is an abomination. So, you have joined Satan by rejecting God. Don't forget, Hell is eternal damnation.

I too, sometimes reject God for my own pleasures. I try to be intellectually honest and know I have put my eternal soul in jeapardy. At least you believe in God and recognize he is your Creator who deserves to be obeyed. God bless you. See Matthew 7:21-25 where Jesus says many followers will not enter heaven. If you wouldn't mind praying for me too for I am a sinner.

2006-08-13 00:37:36 · answer #7 · answered by Search4truth 4 · 0 1

The concept of Hell and Heaven are worldly ideas. We usually make our own hell or heaven in the 'here and now'. You gotta be who you are. In my experience, (acting, musician, etc) the problem with those that are uncomfortable with 'otherly sexuals' is that they have not looked very deeply inside there own beliefs. By the by, I'm a single/divorced 'hetero' and loving it.

2006-08-13 00:30:36 · answer #8 · answered by Joe Schmo from Kokomo 6 · 1 0

Sweetheart, no I don't believe you're going to hell for being gay anymore than I am. God made me gay, so he must have made you too. It's not a sin, you can't help what you are-and you're not hurting anyone. It would be a sin to deny the way God made you.

2006-08-13 00:55:22 · answer #9 · answered by Agent Double EL 5 · 1 0

I say, "Live and let live." We all have enough work in looking inside ourselves to make sure we're living the life that makes us the best people we can be. It's not our job to judge other people. And, no, you're not going to hell.

2006-08-13 01:34:23 · answer #10 · answered by GSDoxie3 4 · 0 0

people always think that they know the bible but few ever really know what they are talking about...in the king james version of the bible it plainly speaks against homosexuality in several scriptures...but king james version of the bible was his own manipulated translation of the original hebrew bible... king james was the biggest sinner in the world... in the original bible there are no passages against homosexuality...people were just raised one way for years and instead of having a mind of their own to research and find out the truth they go with what they were taught all of thier lives and raised to believe... do not listen to what people tell you... if you are happy with the person you are then do not change just to please others.

2006-08-13 01:27:18 · answer #11 · answered by jen4802051709 3 · 0 0

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