who thinks these girls that have babies just to get a council house, should be cut off and not given a penny?

Question

towards anything other than to supprt the child. i am sick of these kids having kids themselves just to get a home, there was a documentary the other week and some openly admitted they were doing this for the home and benefits.

i am not sayiong all girls and their partners are doing this, but do you begrudge paying for the ones that do? i know i do.

i say stop rewarding them and make them suffer the consequences.

and to ROXY, if you read my question properly, you would see that i said the mothers should be given money for their children, so the kids wouldn't be without, what i don't like is these girls getting OUR money to spend it on the latest trendy clothes etc. they should only get money that is spent on the child.

and secondly, i ahve never picked up the Daily Mail in my life, i will stick to The Mirror, thank you very much.

i don't mind someone disagreeing with my question, but can you please read it properly first.

to SAZ17, damn right they should do their own housework! and how does that create money for the goverment??? i don't understand what that last bit was about, did anyone know what she is going on about?

also, wher have i said "single mothers"? nowhere, the men are as much to blame for getting these girls pregnant, it would be ignorant of me to just blame the girl.

Answer 1

I TOTALLY begrudge paying for this, seeing as I'm 26 and still don't (and probably never will) have my own place.

But how does one sort the genuine from the scammers?

Just be glad you're not like them, and enjoy your life for the freedom it brings. The girls who set themselves up for this don't have a life I envy. Sorry to say that, but it's the only way I can find so I can deal with life's takers.

In Thailand (I think) the government will allow uneducated girls only 2 children ever! And educated girls get paid for each child they produce. Yes it's 'social engineering', but they were worried about ending up with a growing population of unemployable unqualified communities, especially as the career-seeking girls never get round to procreating. It's been criticised for seeming fascist, etc, but I think it's a blooming good idea!

And if we're going to pay one sector of society to have kids anyway...?

Answer 2

Many of these young girls leave school in the full knowledge they are not of any real use in the workplace, they have no drive, no ambition and no direction as well as lacking in the basic skills for adult life, so they do what they think will be the easy option.

I firmly believe that people have the right to have a child, but they should also be responsible to bring it up without the support from the government, for a government to fund this habit with no real restrictions in place is ridiculous and the UK is one of the very few places that does, and because it does, it is the laughing stock of the world. Here in Spain there is a one off payment when a woman has a child of 2000€, that's it, nothing more, its up to the families to pay for the child then. Why should a government have to pay because someone wants to perpetuate their silly little gene pool, the issue really does need to be addresses and all the benefits scrapped. There is no reason why a woman cannot work once she's had a child, that's where the funding should be directed, to nurseries, but they should still be paid for in part by the parent, and not another freebie!

Answer 3

They're Called Welfare Mommas,They Think The Working PPL Owe Them A Living,Sorry I Don't...I Think 90 Days Assistance Within A 5 Year Period Is About Right After That Get A Job And Keep It Or Live In The Street And Go Hunry, I Hate Lazy *** Moochers

Answer 4

yes i agree, i know people who just have kids for benefits so they dont have to work and take great pleasure in telling you how much they get, i myself was a single parent after my marriage broke up, i paid the mortgage and worked full time, i wouldnt want to find myself in a position where i had to rely on handouts, this country needs a good shake up, i have known girls who say they are single parents and as soon as they get a council house move their boyfrinds in, carry on claiming as if they are one parent families while the boyfriend works, they must be on a good crack. Saying all that for genuine people out there it cant be easy, being alone and a single parent, its just the ones who take advantage of the situation. But that documentry was a real eye opener and the girls who admitted what they were doing should be ashamed of themselves, it doesnt give much hope for the next generation of benefit thiefs does it

Answer 5

You are a blind fool. There are 1,7 million lone parent households in UK, only 18% of which are mothers who have never been in a relationship. Of all of them approx 56% are in full time work.
You say only pay for the child - do you really expect a young mother to starve, to go without utilities and clothes? It is really stupid of you to blame some girl who has no other prospect in life but to get pregnant and be offered a crappy council house. Wow, thats set her up for life. Poverty in this country kills. Single mothers spend less on themselves and more on their children to alleviate the effects of poverty. (joseph rowntree foundation)
29 million people are in work - average income (national statistics 2006) was approx £25,000. This pay contributes approx £3000 to national insurance (which pays for
benefits/pensions etc - see ESRC society). This is a grand total of £90 000000000.
Single parents on benefit =787,000. Multiply by roughly £250 to account for income, child benefit, housing and council tax benefit =£197000000.
So how much are you paying towards this? approx 10% of your NI contribution (if you are earning £25000)which works out at about £8 a week. Not a lot.

The Office of National Statistics values household work, to which single mothers greatly contribute, at £739 billion a year.

Answer 6

This is quite a serious issue. Unfortunately, society is run by those in a position to make decisions and power is handed down by them to the next generation that they nominate to be elected in a fair and democratic way.

It used to be that women of ill repute were put into homes for such women and the children that they had were taken away from them. In those days, slavery was commonplace and so servant girls of ill-repute could be employed easily in supermarkets and shops.

Unfortunately, when you reward the wicked and punish the good you end up with the situation where everyone becomes wicked.

Hence the current terrorism crisis.

Answer 7

Council's have no legal duty to house or assist single mothers but they have a legal duty to protect the child. Are you saying that's wrong? On odd occasions single mothers get their children taken away from them instead, but normally the cheapest and best way to protect the child is to house the mother as well. It's catch 22.

Basically the government has two choices (A) make a newborn baby that's done nothing wrong homeless or (B) House the baby and mother. Now make your choice.

If you can come up with a third option please let the government know as different governments have been trying to find it for many years.

Answer 8

Only problem with that is that a drug addicted mom is not going to use the money for their kids. So the kids would continue to suffer. I to have not only heard it on t.v. I've heard it in real life. Sadly there are a lot of people out there scamming the system.

Answer 9

I do agree with you. But some of these girls have really bad home lives and think it is the only option they have to get out. There should be something out there for them, I don't know what though.

It's a very hard subject really when you get deep down.

Answer 10

Oh - me! me! I do!
Actually, I think that the state should refuse to support more than two children. Obviously accidents happen and women who fall pregnant by mistake need help - but it should be impossible to make a career out of it. If they stopped the benefits for more than two children then the lazy benefit-scrounging types would HAVE to go out and get jobs.
Grrrrrrrrrr!