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i want direct quotes not interpretations, where it clearly says you can kill innocent people . from the koran.

2006-08-11 17:10:15 · 6 answers · asked by Mr Warrior 7 in News & Events Current Events

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How about it Muslims. Ante up.

2006-08-11 17:16:56 · answer #1 · answered by Don S 5 · 4 0

it doesn't say any thing like that. the only way to get the answer would be to interportate. but becouse its suppose to be the word of god you realy shoudlnt have to. oh well thats why the religion is doomed to fail its to ridge in some places but to flexible in their defintion of jihad.

quotes from the koran or any holy book should be given in the entire context. any looser can paraphrase a book and make it say what they want it to say.

2006-08-12 00:20:09 · answer #2 · answered by ah64dtk 4 · 0 1

"4.101": And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will cause you distress, surely the unbelievers are your open enemy
"2.191": And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers
"3.12": Say to those who disbelieve: You shall be vanquished, and driven together to hell; and evil is the resting-place.
"3.151": We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

2006-08-12 00:23:26 · answer #3 · answered by rogerm11111 2 · 1 1

Why would anyone's "GOD" (which ever one you call god) want hate, war, or killing of ANYONE in the name of their religion. That is brainwashing! and taking the "WORD" out of context, no matter what type of religion the individual believes.

2006-08-12 01:46:35 · answer #4 · answered by p_lucas89 1 · 1 0

When you say "innocent" what do you mean? Are you using the Qur'an's definition of innocent?

I think you are referring to:

Qur'ān Surah Al-Mã´edah 5:32
...If someone kills a human being, unless as a penalty for murder, or unless it is to prevent the spread of corruption in the world, it is as if he has killed the entire humanity. (Munir Munshey trans.)

...anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. ... (Khalifa trans.)

... whosoever killed a person - unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land - it shall be as if he killed all mankind... (Sher Ali trans.)

مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَى بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَنْ قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِنْهُمْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ
Min ajli thalika katabna AAala banee isra-eela annahu man qatala nafsan bighayri nafsin aw fasadin fee al-ardi fakaannama qatala alnnasa jameeAAan waman ahyaha fakaannama ahya alnnasa jameeAAan walaqad jaat-hum rusuluna bialbayyinati thumma inna katheeran minhum baAAda thalika fee al-ardi lamusrifoona

And also
Qur'ān Sura Banî Israel 17:33
And do not kill anyone. Allah has prohibited it, except when it is rightful and befitting (and corresponds to the crime).(Munir Munshey trans.)

.And slay not the soul, the slaying of which Allah has forbidden, save for a just cause...(Sher Ali trans.)...

وَلَا تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ وَمَنْ قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِ سُلْطَنًا فَلَا يُسْرِفْ فِي الْقَتْلِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مَنصُورًا
Wala taqtuloo alnnafsa allatee harrama Allahu illa bialhaqqi waman qutila mathlooman faqad jaAAalna liwaliyyihi sultanan fala yusrif fee alqatli innahu kana mansooran

So the issue is not merely killing but rather killing someone who has murdered, committed horrendous crimes or mischief in the land which would be killing for a just cause.

Jhn 8:32 ... and the truth shall make you free.

Muslims do not consider the people of Israel, US or UK to be "innocent".

The strategic objective of Islam is to destroy the foundations of the non Muslim civilizations, as a prelude to the defeat of an isolated Israel, India, United States of America, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Russia, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc

Muslims have a SACRED DUTY to purge fitnah from the world. Sayyid Qutb, an Islamic scholar, writes that the world would be a utopia under Islamic theocracy. Islam is a political as well as a religious system.

Qur'ān Surah Al-Anfãl 8:39
So fight them (unbelievers) until there is no more fitnah (disbelief or worship of any god but Allah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world) ... And fight with them until there is no more fitnah and religion should be ONLY for Allah

Allah commands deeds of terror by the believers against the unbelievers as the means of creating the emotion of terror in their hearts. The only reason needed for action is that "they resisted Allah and His Messenger". Such an approach to "conflict management" is nothing to be ashamed about according to Islamic understanding, but it is a basis for pride. According to Islam, it is one reason for the superiority of Muhammad over all other prophets.

It is EVERY Muslim's SACRED DUTY to fight in the jihad/qitl fee sybil Allah. (struggle/killing in the cause of Allah)

Qur'ān Surah al-Hujurat 49:15
Mumim (true Muslims) believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and without doubt they strive in the cause of Allah (jihad fee Sybil Allah) with their WEALTH and their lives. Those! They are the sincere.

Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward, (Yusuf Ali trans.)

The verb qatala means to fight and kill.
Qur'ān Sura Barã´ah 9:29
Fight against the people of the book, those of them who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, who do not forbid that which Allah and His messenger have forbidden, and who do not follow the religion of truth (Islam). (Fight against them) till they (agree to) pay ‘jazia’ (the submission tribute) and accept an inferior status (with humiliation and submission to the government of Islam.) (Munir Munshey trans.)

قَتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْاءخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنْ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَبَ حَتَّى يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَغِرُونَ
Qatiloo allatheena la yu/minoona biAllahi wala bialyawmi al-akhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harrama Allahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqi mina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hatta yuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroona

2006-08-12 00:29:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

.. NO WHERE

.. I KNOW THE ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE AND JUSTICE

.. THE PROPAGANDA'S ARE BECAUSE OF NO-KNOWLEDGE, NO-STUDY, NO-RESEARCH, NO-ANALYSIS AND NO-UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY BOOK.

.. ITS ABSOLUTELY AN ABSURT AND IMMATURE.

2006-08-12 00:35:53 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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