One of my moderate liberal friends (leaning to the right more and more) asked me today if it was possible to support the troops but not the war? And I said sure you can, its how you rely that message. The day you start talking war criminal, murderers, and rapists is the day your a looney nut.
Any thoughts?
2006-08-11 12:44:36 · 10 answers · asked by John 3 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
It is a repeat of the Vietnam war. There were anti-war activist, but many people treated our soldiers like baby killers. Our vets suffered tremendously.
It will happen again if our citizens do not stand behind our soldiers.
2006-08-11 12:49:03 · answer #1 · answered by Baby Bloo 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My thoughts are that you are judgmental and for some reason think you are of such high intellect that you get to decide who is a 'looney nut'. Typical republican arrogance. You guys arrogance is running us straight into WW3.
I am ex-Army and participated in the Gulf War but I do NOT support the troops. I do not wish any harm to them but I do NOT support their actions. At this point they should do the right thing by the military code that we are taught and that is to disobey orders that you know are inhumane.
I forgive the ones who were already enlisted before the war started because they were stuck;but, I do not forgive the ones who have signed up since then. There is too much evidence stating the war was based on wrong reasons and this is just an occupation.
2006-08-11 12:49:58 · answer #2 · answered by BeachBum 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Agreed. With reservations.
Individuals may be guilty of war crimes, murder and rape. Put 100,000 armed people anywhere and some of them are going to commit crimes. But what 3 people do in the field one night doesn't make the entire force criminal.
Also, just because the Commander-in-Sheik has admitted to committing war crimes (18 USC 2441) doesn't make the rest of the armed forces responsible for actions in which they did not participate.
Those who committed crimes are subject to criminal punishment after a fair trial. That's the way our laws work. Those who are not criminals should not be treated as such by association.
2006-08-11 12:50:36 · answer #3 · answered by coragryph 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Sure, support the troops by calling for them to come home. The war criminals, murderers, and rapists among the armed forces is an incredibly small minority; focusing on that minority and making it seem as if the majority of soldiers are like that is blatantly ignorant.
2006-08-11 12:49:47 · answer #4 · answered by eatmorec11h17no3 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Referring to our soldiers generally as "war criminals, murderers and rapists" is very inappropriate and clearly marks you as not only a loony, but also an a******. But that must be distinguished from discussing particular cases of war crimes, murder and rape. It is important to keep in mind that the accusers in the Hamza rape and murder were not anti-war activists; they were American soldiers who came forward because they couldn't deal with what they had seen. Similarly, the accusations of massacre in Haditha come not from anti-war activists, but from the Iraqi army. I have not heard anyone publicly refer to our soldiers as "war criminals, murderers and rapists", and it seems to me more that many Americans who are in favor of the war feel defensive about any reference to particular war crimes, because they feel like it reflects badly on their support for the war. The problem is that war crimes, murder and rape by soldiers are very characteristic of bad command-and-control, low morale, and poorly defined missions. You don't see these kinds of accusations about our 1989 occupation of Panama, or the first Gulf War -- this is an indicator of how bad the situation in Iraq has gotten, and the debate over whether or not we're going to discuss these kinds of incidents is really a debate over whether or not we're going to discuss how bad the situation in Iraq has gotten.
2006-08-11 13:15:42 · answer #5 · answered by Josh 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I support our troops, but don't support the occupation of Iraq. Our brave soldiers are doing a great job consider the don't have adequate armor and for many their deployments have been extended.
2006-08-11 12:50:06 · answer #6 · answered by ggarsk 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Iraq war was a mistake and we all know it,
Denying it only hurts more people.
I total support the troops,,but Rumfield should be fired along with his boss for what he caused
2006-08-11 12:52:39 · answer #7 · answered by sam s 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Many, many republicans say it is impossible to support the troops if you don't support the decision Bush made. They don't want the troops to have the support of democrats or peaceful people. Someone should vote them out of office.
2006-08-11 12:52:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree
2006-08-11 12:49:41 · answer #9 · answered by The Big Shot 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Ya I have thoughts but it would be useless to say them to an obvious idiot.
2006-08-11 12:48:18 · answer #10 · answered by theforce51 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋