Not as an insult but someone pleae tell me why they think Homosexuality is a born thing.?

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I have 8 years in the medical field and am studying biology. Im not attacking anyone just curious. I cannot see how even if it were a genetic mutation as has show before it is a born thing in everyone. I could see if it were like 1 out of ever 1,000,000,000 people but thats about all nature allows for. Please speak your piece..politely and intelligently please. No religion just science.

I am a straight man. I am insulting i am simply asking for a different view. I am not anti-gay or anti-gay rights. I fully support gay rights. I think people should be free to do as they choose so long as they harm no one nor hinder anothers path to happiness. You present a very valid point sleepingtao, i will look that up thank you for the information and points of research...any other points of view are still welcome.

Correction I am NOT attempting to insult people. Please do not take offense. As much as people get upset at being persecuted you certain react badly for someone is eager to hear other points of view.

When i said that it may be a genetic mutation i was refering to a negative thing. All organisms have genetic mutation it is what makes up evolution. I was simply stating what i have heard as the most scientific explaination. Thank you for your point of you. I have not said outright that i think that it is something that you are born as or something you decide to be i am researching all perspectives before i make my choice, hense the request for opinions.

I agree that alot of it is common sense but it doesn't hurt to be curious of the scientific aspect of it. And the reason i was refering to a genetic mutation is because in all organisms espially mammals (sorry im a horrible speller) rely on genetic mutations to change their physical and mental attributes. It is how we evolve. An extreamely valid point about it being a recessive gene which comes out in some cases and not in others

Now that i do resent. Because i serve in our countries military i am instantly anti-gay? That is pretty closed minded for someone who is so professedly open minded. Things change everywhere, even in the military because people are willing to have open minds. It was a estimation my numbers. But as though you've already decided im anti-gay i wont waste much effort on a closed minded person. Funny though this situation is. A gay man shutting out the attempts of a military solder to be openminded. Nice.

Wow,i am astonded at such a negative reaction. I appologies for making the mistake of trying to learn before deciding. I will simply be anti-gay and decide to go against everything it stands for, not because i disagree with it but because the negative attitudes exerted by simply asking questions. Ignorance is usually rapid because people dont ask but in this case its because people who ask are attacked for wanting to now good luck with that.

Answer 1

Good ? why would anyone want to be gay when there are millions of hot babes out there?

Answer 2

What if it's a long since established genetic "mutation" that has permeated all higher mammals through some common ancestor? It may be a recessive gene and not an absolute marker but, rather, one which pre-disposes the bearer. There may also be pre-natal impacts e.g. Maternal hormone imbalances or pathological impacts. There have been some recent studies suggesting that mothers of male children suffer testosterone imbalances in subsequent pregnancies with male children.

Whatever the causes, GLB people are increasingly recognising that they are different at younger ages. This could be attributable to the increased exposure of children to sex and sexuality and would suggest that it is less an environmental issue than a physiological one.

Answer 3

Ok I have no detailed sciectific facts for you seeing as there hasnt been an over abundance of research funds spent on answering these questions especially here in the United states...
I think because the mass majority of the worlds population is straight everyone is presumed to be straight untill proven otherwise, they automatically believe we were straight and turned gay.....which couldnt be farther from the truth... If you really look at what homosexuals go through day in, day out.... discrimination at jobs, discrimination from health care providers, insurance companies, society, even our own flesh and blood ...
Can you honestly say that if you were in that situation you would put yourself through all that if it could be avoided?
and dont you think if homosexuality really was a choice... the majority of homosexuals would opt to AVOID the abuse?

it doesnt take a whole lotof research really to answer the question.. just a bit of common sence and the ability to your yourself in another mans shoes long enough to get an understanding of the reality of it all..

youre numbers on genetic mutations are way off base...
look at intersexed people... specificially people born with one testical and one ovarie... and also androgene insensitivity syndrome those are something one would consider genetic mutations.... and those conditions countless times more then 1 out of every 1,000,000,000

You may be a medic in the army. but you have much to learn
before you go quoting off the wall numbers out of your ***... you might actually do some research

I find it odd that a heterosexual guy who is currently enlisted in the army is intrested at all in anything gay related... much less research... And being as our millitary is anti gay I KNOW they are not funding your "research".. Im guessing youre so called research will consist of a couple searches on google

Answer 4

I have a masters in biological sciences and I am 57 yrs old...It was never a choice for me..any more than having blue eyes or blonde hair was a choice.. I don't know..there isn't 1 gay person who at sometime hasn't wished that they were straight..being gay is extremly difficult..especially when you lose your friends, your family, your jobs...everything changes. It is no wonder that the gay/lesbian teenage suicides are at an all time high.
Your question sounds intelligent...maybe the answer is not in the genetic mutation scheme of things..maybe gay people do supply something necessary for the survival of the species...Perhaps having a gay gene pool or whatever is simply the price we pay for being such a sexual species..our females reproduce at any time of the year...everyone is always ready for intercourse, etc. I just don't know. What I do know is that homosexuality isn't a choice...the same way that I know that heterosexuality isn't a choice for you...it's just what you are.. Gay people don't wish to be a group of people that are despised by everyone else...considered an abomination by their god..or anything else that negative...It is very difficult for most of them to get through the first few years of gay life..I, myself, tried to kill myself..and I now know many other similar stories...nobody goes through that because it's a choice.
So I would tend to think that it has nothing to do with the 1 x 10(10th power) or whatever as far as genetics go...and am more inclined to think that it serves some purpose...without serving a purpose it would never have survived evolutionarily.

Answer 5

Why do I think it is a born thing?
1) It happens in humans as well as animals
2) It is such a terrible burden to endure - people would suppress if they could. You are in the medical field. Have you ever looked at the statistics for how many gay people kill themselves when they reach adolescence out of despair? That is one of the first questions a cop will ask when investigating a teen suicide. Google it. No one would choose to be gay if they could otherwise be straight.
3) People can no more explain why they want the same sex than they can explain why they are left or right handed.
4) Straight sex does not turn a homosexual straight.
5) Read the kinsey reports.

Answer 6

There is absolutely no doubt I was born Gay. At 5 years old, I was attracted to men's bodies, not women's. I didn't know what the hell was going on...I didn't even know about sex until I was 10. It is absolutely genetic, period. It runs in my father's side of the family, where many of my 2nd cousins are gay. My mother's side has no gays that I am aware of. The fact that there is a relatively constant 10% gay is the first clue...too many too consistent for genes NOT to be playing a role. That doesn't mean that everyone born with the gay gene has to be gay. I was very happily married for years. But when I met my true love, it was out of control. NOTHING I tried could keep me away from him..16 years of being with him. My wife and I divorced on very good terms, we shared responsibility for my two sons (both straight when they could have been whatever they wanted..neither my wife nor I cared..their happiness is what we wanted). But I Will bet you even money that my grandson has a 50/50 chance...so what. who cares. It doesn't really matter what he or anyone else does in the bedroom...it affects neither you or me in any way. Good luck. Oh and by the way, I have Ph.D. in Microbiology, and I do know a lot about genetics.

Answer 7

If you are in the medical field and studying biology I'm surprised you have missed the tests and studies which have showed not a genetic cause per se but a change which can occur in the womb when a developing fetus is bombarded with too much of the "wrong" hormone at the wrong time. This causes, at the very least, a change in the hypothalamus which is known to be different in males and females.
This study is somewhat related: http://www.brightsurf.com/news/headlines/24576/Genetic_tug_of_war_determines_sexual_differentiation.html
Sexual orientation, gender identity and physical appearance can all be altered in the womb due to hormone fluctuations. The drug DES given to pregnant women in the 1950's and 1960's is a known culprit for causing this alteration. There could be some genetic factor which predisposes a developing fetus to be more vulnerable to these alterations but I am not aware of that specific study.

Answer 8

I just don't see how someone can change nature!? I was born straight and I have never been attracted to another woman in any way, shape or form. And I know a lesbian girl who said she was attracted to girls as long as she can remember. She also said that she just can't see herself with a guy. Being with a guy for her is like me being with a girl!! It's definitely determined by nature and people are born either as straight or gay. You should post a question, asking to see how many people out there turned gay later in life.
Also, why should we assume that it's a genetic mutation?? What if being gay is also a natural state?!
Too many possibilities.

Answer 9

When I was a child, I was told how I will eventually marry a woman. It was expected of me. I didn't really have the attraction as I went through pubrerty. Not by my choice, I started to have a strong sexual attraction towards guys as I grew older and went through high school, while still being told how I need to find a girl. I tried to get sexually aroused by women, but it did notwork, no matter what I did. As an experiment I bought some gay porn and loved everything about it. It turned me on, and I got aroused immediately by the images and sexual interaction between the men. I can't change who I am or what causes me to be aroused. This is the way I was born. I have never been sexually attracted to women by my being born, not by choice

Answer 10

Generally speaking, I'm inclined to believe that it is a 'born thing' because all of the gays I've spoken to have said as much. At first I wasn't sure whether or not to believe it - and I wasn't sure whether or not it was positive for gay rights, but then I've realised that the important thing here is taking people at their word. I can't speak about the science, but I can say that the anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it very greatly.

Additionally, as I can accept that my personal heterosexual tendencies are a 'natural' aspect of how I was born and not an active 'choice' I've made at any point in my life, it seems logical that the same should be true of other sexual preferences too.

For thousands of years, people who were born left-handed were forced to use their right hands - against their will and against their nature, often causing emotional trauma. I can't really see any difference between handedness being 'from birth' and sexuality being 'from birth' too.

Answer 11

To me, sexual orientation and gender identity develop as the brain develops before birth. The cause(s) of different identities and orientations is(are) just about, if not, impossible to figure out with today's technology. Relatives have noticed that I might be "gay or something" since before I was old enough to know what sex was and that there's a difference between males and females. As it turns out, I'm a transsexual lesbian. There have been many, many cases of people discovering their sexual preference/gender identity well before they knew the difference between men and women and what sex is. The evidence is hard to ignore.