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I am so proud of God intervening,proud of our country's Homeland Security Agency,and grateful for life today because so many people were saved.

2006-08-10 08:52:49 · 43 answers · asked by unmovingasp 3 in News & Events Current Events

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What we now know about the London-based plot to destroy ten civilian airplanes points to six conclusions.

First, what stopped this plot was law enforcement. Law enforcement. Not a military invasion of Pakistan, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, or Iraq. Old-fashioned surveillance, development of human sources, putting pieces together, and cooperation with foreign police and intelligence services.

Second, the conspiracy — if it resembles the London bombings of last summer — will likely be home-grown, another of the growing jihad "fashion" in Europe that comprises the new street gangs of this world. It is not a religious movement, it is not fundamentalism. These are thin veneers. It is at root sheer violence undertaken by young men resentful of many things (not least the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Lebanon) and ready to kill in return. Under different cirucmstances, it could be Tamils or Red Brigades or Michigan Militiamen, and has been.

Third, if al Qaeda was involved (allegedly from Pakistan), we can thank the failure of the war in Afghanistan and the cozying up to Musharraf to destroy them.

Fourth, there was no involvement by any American-based “cells,” according the FBI Director Robert Mueller. As many of us have been saying for nearly five years, and as the 9/11 Commission Report showed, there is virtually no plausible American jihad organization at work, and never has been.

Fifth, the plot again reveals how ill-equipped the U.S. Government has been in anticipating plausible attack scenarios and taking steps to prevent them. Liquid bombs were so hard to figure out? Al Qaeda already tried it. DHS has almost completely missed the threat, just as they are missing the vulnerability of cargo holds and God knows what else. Thomas Kean, the former GOP governor and co-chair of the 9/11 Commission, called this liquid bomb error “appalling” and wondered, on an NBC program four months ago, why no progress had been made. What are the tens of billions being spent on? This is Katrina II.

Sixth, and most important, we must end our involvement in Iraq and sharply refocus our presence in the region. The war president’s approach is not working. It’s a diversion from the real threat. It’s a spur to bitter revenge. It’s a big feedback loop that will endanger us for years, if not decades. Our lives are now at stake because the Bush catastrophe has created thousands of new terrorists.

Naturally, the politically expedient are trying to gain an edge. Defeated Senator Joseph Lieberman immediately attacked his victorious primary challenger Ned Lamont, saying that Lamont’s leave Iraq policy is somehow connected to this. It’s the opposite — the war distracts and inflames. We will see the crowing from the Bushies now, when in fact they were again asleep at the wheel, only this time the Brits saved the day. The war v. law enforcement contrast — remember how John Kerry was ridiculed by Cheney for uggesting that aggressive police work and human intelligence were anti-terror linchpins? — is now buried by conflating the “war against terror” in Iraq with this Scotland Yard and MI5 success.

Reversing America’s colossally destructive series of interventions in the Middle East — a cause, a trigger, a recruitment fountain, and a charity for jihad — will require an entirely different mindset, not just an adjustment or a measured retreat. When America responded, after being prodded, to the tsunami victims in Indonesia early last year, it profoundly changed Indonesians’ views of the United States. New attitudes of support and cooperation suddenly sprang forth. This “natural experiment” should be examined to learn from, possibly to emulate, in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere.

We’re now viewed as destroyers, and destruction is the retort. This is the “new Middle East” that is aborning — one of relentless violence — if we do not end our own relentless violence there. The would-be bombers in London are a reminder of how close it is.

http://www.mcblogger.com/archives/2006/08/six_lessons_fro.html

2006-08-18 02:15:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Grateful? Grateful that it took almost FIVE WHOLE YEARS to stop another attack and the perps of 9/11 are still out there? Grateful that the "security personnel" in airports mainly consists of poorly educated minorities who often don't speak English. Grateful that I have to worry about a race of people who happily sacrifice their women and children for "Allah" and a shot at 70 vestal virgins? Grateful is the wrong word.

I am thankful to God that this particular cell was thwarted, but I am frustrated that we still seem to be penny-wise and pound foolish when it comes to security. Airport security personnel needs to be better qualified, better educated and, yes, ENGLISH speaking! I have watched many "questionable" people pass thru security, while my 2 daughters and I stand and have our bags and backpacks searched through! By some guy who was probably slinging hash the week before! Security in this country needs to catch up with the terrorist cells and FAST. I just pray that next time I can truly be "grateful."

2006-08-10 09:15:59 · answer #2 · answered by tiggyman41 3 · 2 1

There is the potential to do great harm. It is a blessing that the terrorist plans were thwarted, but in a way, they accomplished part of their goal --- to terrorize.

You have the right attitude.
Other individuals HAVE been terrorized.

Allah COMMANDS deeds of TERROR by the believers (Muslims) against the unbelievers (non-Muslims) as the means of creating the emotion of terror in their hearts. The only reason needed for action is that "they resisted Allah and His Messenger".

Such an approach to "conflict management" is nothing to be ashamed about according to Islamic understanding, but it is a basis for PRIDE. According to Islam, it is one reason for the superiority of Muhammad over all other prophets.

Qur'an Surah Ãli-´Imrãn (3):151
We will throw TERROR into the hearts of those who disbelieved, since they set up besides Allah powerless idols. Their destiny is Hell; what a miserable abode for the transgressors! (Khalifa trans.)

سَنُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ بِمَا اشْرَكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَنًا وَمَاوَهُمْ النَّارُ وَبِئْسَ مَثْوَى الظَّلِمِينَ

Sanulqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba bima ashrakoo biAllahi ma lam yunazzil bihi sultanan wama/wahumu alnnaru wabi/sa mathwa alththalimeena

Qur'an Surah Al-Anfãl (8):12-13
Recall that your Lord inspired the angels: "I am with you; so support those who believed. I will throw TERROR into the hearts of those who disbelieved. You may strike them above the necks, and you may strike even every finger. This is what they have justly incurred by fighting Allah and His messenger. For those who fight against Allah and His messenger, Allah's retribution is severe. (Khalifa trans.)

إِذْ يُوحِي رَبُّكَ إِلَى الْمَلَئِكَةِ أَنِّي مَعَكُمْ فَثَبِّتُوا الَّذِينَ ءامَنُوا سَأُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ فَاضْرِبُوا فَوْقَ الْأَعْنَاقِ وَاضْرِبُوا مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ
ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ شَاقُّوا اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَمَنْ يُشَاقِقْ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ

Ith yoohee rabbuka ila almala-ikati annee maAAakum fathabbitoo allatheena amanoo saolqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba faidriboo fawqa al-aAAnaqi waidriboo minhum kulla bananin. Thalika bi-annahum shaqqoo Allaha warasoolahu waman yushaqiqi Allaha warasoolahu fa-inna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi

Qur'an Surah Al-Anfãl (8): 59-60
Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike TERROR into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (Yusuf Ali trans.)

وَلَا يَحْسَبَنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَبَقُوا إِنَّهُمْ لَا يُعْجِزُونَ
وَأَعِدُّوا لَهُمْ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُمْ مِنْ قُوَّةٍ وَمِنْ رِبَاطِ الْخَيْلِ تُرْهِبُونَ بِهِ عَدُوَّ اللَّهِ وَعَدُوَّكُمْ وَءاخَرِينَ مِنْ دُونِهِمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَهُمْ اللَّهُ يَعْلَمُهُمْ وَمَا تُنفِقُوا مِنْ شَيْءٍ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ يُوَفَّ إِلَيْكُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تُظْلَمُونَ

Wala yahsabanna allatheena kafaroo sabaqoo innahum la yuAAjizoona. WaaAAiddoo lahum ma istataAAtum min quwwatin wamin ribati alkhayli turhiboona bihi AAaduwwa Allahi waAAaduwwakum waakhareena min doonihim la taAAlamoonahumu Allahu yaAAlamuhum wama tunfiqoo min shay-in fee sabeeli Allahi yuwaffa ilaykum waantum la tuthlamoona

Since Muslims, Jews and Christians have messianic beliefs, maybe praying for the messiah to come and bring lasting peace before the world destroys itself would be a win-win-win solution

2006-08-10 09:26:18 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

yes extremely grateful because with the anniversary of 911 around the corner there is going to be more terroristic activities. and did they say that it was 30 different airplanes that were coming to the US? Maybe they were going to all the major cities in america to blow some sh!t up. I am so proud and grateful that the airplane security was doing their job well.

2006-08-10 09:01:02 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

How did God intervene? I'm curious. I dont believe it was the big terrorist plot that the news has been hyping. It wouldnt surprise me at all if the CIA and MI5 had something to do with it. Every time governments are in trouble they need something like this to rally the folks around whatever they've got going & justify the means.

2006-08-17 05:30:33 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Why would God selectively choose to intervine in this current matter but fail to intervine in 911..the Iraq war..and the Genocide in Sudan...Homeland Security does"nt think our borders need to be better guarded!!

2006-08-18 08:45:00 · answer #6 · answered by Tooblak 1 · 0 0

A cheering applause, and a deep thankful bow of respect to the English police force. They just saved hundreds of lives!!

There should be some ceremony for the police ...something to put them on the pedestal!

Let those cowardly terrorists squirm in their ignorance and hate. In the name of Allah killing innocent people!?!

Why don't the moslems, who are so shocked about this, get on their own people ! Why don't THEY do something about this????

2006-08-10 09:20:01 · answer #7 · answered by bluebyou 4 · 2 0

AMERICA must remain vigilant. I am not an alarmist
the is a constant danger from those that hate our
country, GOD is on the side of the righteous. I only hope
that the LORD finds AMERICA righteous.

2006-08-18 08:48:55 · answer #8 · answered by bernice l 4 · 0 0

Totally. I pray for us, that God would protect us from terrorist attacks. That they would get caught before they could harm.

I thank God for all the people on top of things to thwart this attack.

Terrorists think that if they get away with killing anyone, it is because God wanted them to kill people. I wonder what they think now that God prevented them from killing us.

God has heard our prayers. He loves us. The American people & the British are more in tune with God after 9/11 than before.

2006-08-10 09:12:08 · answer #9 · answered by t_a_m_i_l 6 · 3 1

They caught them in the planning stages, from what I understand? Why all the security after this was pulled down? Why the NG call out and flight cancellations?

2006-08-10 09:01:23 · answer #10 · answered by Joseph 2 · 1 0

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