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After all he has violated the Geneva Convention in his treatment of detainees, and allowed U.S. forces to use torture. What would we say if the leader of a middle-eastern country did these things?

2006-08-09 06:07:17 · 18 answers · asked by Whoops, is this your spleeen? 6 in Politics & Government Politics

18 answers

Yes.

Your list leaves out the invasion of Iraq and the way the war has been conducted (even in a legitimate war -- which this was not -- you're supposed to minimize, not maximize, civilian deaths).

What we say of others when they do these things depends on whether we support them, or, indeed, were the ones to put them in power in the first place. We only condemn it when it's people we don't support.

What I'd like to know is, what's the distinction between "Shock and Awe" and "terror"?

PS: I see people are repeating that false line that the detainees aren't covered by the Geneva Conventions (which, BTW aren't the only relevant document). Untrue. The final article of the conventions states that there is no such thing as holding someone outside the bounds of law. Either you're holding your own citizen, in which case your own constitution applies, or it's a criminal case involving a national of another country, in which case your extradition treaties apply, or that person falls into one of the categories covered by these agreements.

Why doesn't anyone but me ever say this? Not even Amnesty International?

(Go to International Red Cross, and read them yourself, if you don't believe me.)

PPS: One last comment, on rereading your question: He didn't "allow" torture; he ORDERED it.

2006-08-09 06:20:15 · answer #1 · answered by tehabwa 7 · 1 1

Leaders of middle eastern countries do much much worse; after all, the worst charge against the Bush administration was that he sent detainees to those countries for more intensive questioning. I don't think what you call "torture" is the same most people understand as real torture.

2006-08-09 06:13:50 · answer #2 · answered by WoodyBretton 3 · 0 1

NO!!! And number one, the effen detainees are not members of a organized army of a country, but terrorists and they are not covered under the Geneva Convention and US Forces have not tortured these SOB's and if you think putting panties over their
heads is torture, then you do not know anything about goes on in the world. These SOB's are the worst of the worst.

2006-08-09 06:15:23 · answer #3 · answered by Vagabond5879 7 · 1 2

No he isn't! Since when are we torturing people? I thought it was Iraq who was chopping our soldiers heads off! You are a complete moron. What would we say if if the leader of a middle east country did this? Well lets look at Saddam! He not only tortured but killed his own people. Look what happened to him. We found him in a hole hiding like a little wussy! So don't even go complaining about Bush before looking at all the facts. How does it feel to make a complete idiot out of yourself?

2006-08-09 06:19:22 · answer #4 · answered by Luekas 4 · 0 1

nope congress approved going to war. the detainees are not covered by the geneva convention because they dont fight for a country or wear a uniform.

2006-08-09 06:17:22 · answer #5 · answered by rmisbach 4 · 0 0

yes, just as much as Bin Laden and Saddam

Clinton, old Bush and Reagan were also guilty of war crimes, in fact most of the former presidents of the USA were going back at least to FDR

2006-08-09 06:13:07 · answer #6 · answered by anonacoup 7 · 1 0

God, finally we are getting the right questions asked here. I would say, he has to be impeached, then taken to the Hague to answer questions like those you have just mentioned. There is no fairness in this world, so I suppose it won't happen.

2006-08-09 06:13:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

not only No to ur question but
Hell No !!!
would you rather him do nothing and have the war here ???
And this is for NOVA50
i don't know where you get ur info on how they treat their women but i think you should retract that statement .. they treat their women like CRAP .. and if they are such good people why r they cutting people heads off going over there to try and help rebuild the country ?? torturing people ? innocent people .. civilians

2006-08-09 06:13:07 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

The worse he treats the terrorists at Gitmo, the happier I'd be. I lose no sleep at night thinking about how comfortable they are. If it were up to me, I'd take away their Korans and half of the food they're gaining weight on.

2006-08-09 06:17:48 · answer #9 · answered by rustyshackleford001 5 · 0 1

yeah he is because he attacked the children of iraq and the children of lebanon and he stole the election and he is just really a bad person like all these really smart democratic people I read about hear.
Bush I think he made the twin towers plan and he arranged it all just like I see in mickal moore said he did.

2006-08-09 06:16:07 · answer #10 · answered by liberaldumbutt 1 · 1 0

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