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and get offended when men actually treat them the same as they treat other men? Are women just a bunch of thin-skinned hypocritical whiners or is there some other explanation?

2006-08-08 12:13:57 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science Gender Studies

That's right I'm a jerk for pointing out the fact that there are plenty of women out there like that. I didn't even have to say all for you to assume that that's what I meant. There are plenty of good hearted hard working women out there, which is good, but to hear some women tell it, their **** doesn't stink and they walk on water etc. I'm not some woman hating f@ggot who thinks men are superior, but I do believe that when you claim to want the same positive treatment as men you damn well better be able to take the same ammount of negative. Especially if you dish it out.

2006-08-08 12:31:03 · update #1

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You, yourself, have identified a difference being "positive" treatment and "negative".....

Everybody in this world wants equal when it comes to "positive" treatment. If you have some deal with your male friends where its fine that you also do "negative" treatment of them it is their business if they have no problem with it.

When it comes down to it there should be no "negative". Sometimes what's "negative" to one gender (horrendous language, maybe) seems positive between folks of the other gender when they're together. So if its seen as not negative fine. If it is then don't do it.

Really - you know what is positive treatment and what is negative treatment. "Equal" doesn't mean wanting the equal amount of negative, crappy, disrespectful treatment. If you buddies don't mind its their business, but, really, it isn't decent treatment no matter how you look at it.

You know what women want. I think you're turning it around to make it a case of "Well, if you want the good you have to take the bad" because maybe 1) you resent women anyway for whatever reason and 2) you want to make them pay for whatever it is you resent about them

How about just treating everybody decently and appropriately and based on what they're ok with rather than looking for an excuse to penalize women for expecting to be treated nicely.

Nice women who are lady-like can come across at times to a boorish individual as if they're acting like "little princesses". Maybe you need to hang out with less refined women and find some more boorish ones.

2006-08-08 17:04:55 · answer #1 · answered by WhiteLilac1 6 · 4 0

Does anyone else get the distinct impression that this guy doesn't understand that rights don't require a person to be liked? I get the impression he thinks only 'nice' women deserve equal rights.

Of course there are women who want special treatment just as some men want that. However, most of what I see are women who want the same opportunities men have. And wanting equal opportunity doesn't negate ones right to demand fair and just treatment on the job. The fact that many men lack communication skills and assertiveness, therefor failing to stand up to abuse in the workplace, doesn't mean women aren't entitled to stand up for themselves. Nor does it mean that women have to abandon certain traditions such as men openning doors.

I find your attitude negative and your question disingenuous. I think you're deliberately clouding the issue by stating one premises and then confusing it with other implied premises. A desire for equal rights to opportunity and pay, doesn't mean women are bound to let themselves be abused as so many passive men allow themselves to be. It's hard to stand up to entrenched attitudes, and so naturally the women with the strength to ask for equal pay, will be among the louder voices against other abuses as well. Why shouldn't they?

Although I'll leave out the word in your phrase that shows clear bigotry and hatred toward homosexuals, I'd say you ARE more or less "a woman hater". At the very least you find them intimidating, and your belief that you're somehow cleverly disguising that is hilarious. I half expected to see the phrase 'bleeding hearts' somewhere in your post, that being a favorite among McCarthy and others who revel in their own small-mindedness.

P.S. Don't most bigots like to start out with a denial, such as the racist's standard, "I'm not a racist but" ?

2006-08-11 12:29:20 · answer #2 · answered by moment_in_passing 3 · 2 0

Yes, that is unhappy however actual, notably amongst more youthful ladies. Behind the scenes and normally no longer so in the back of the scenes, ladies hate on ladies. Unless it is whatever like rape, "particularly united" my @ss. About the boss factor, I suppose that every one will depend on how mature the boss is. It's thoroughly viable to have a first-class feminine boss, simply as it is viable to have a first-class male boss. But if the girl boss is the jealous, conniving style, then sure, she's going to deal with her feminine employees worse than the men ((It may also be blatant in a girl's eyes and really unfair. Us ladies have six senses)). And you will not discover this conduct to be such a lot actual some of the male bosses and their opposite numbers. It's simply in our nature to be aggressive with one an additional it sort of feels.. however hello, blame it at the hormones, correct? Lol. Me individually.. I wouldn't have many girlfriends in any respect- I'm very selective, on account that I've located that almost all ladies have a tendency to be JEALOUS, useless, and controlling (of path there are consistently exceptions). With men it is all well. I do not have got to fear approximately any of that bullsh*t petty crap that broads normally battle over. Jeez what a number of uneeded DRAMA. Life's too quick. Guys are simply exact humans, and it is convenient for me to calm down and feature a well time round them. I've been like this all my existence and I'm no tomboy. Just a typical, funloving gal.

2016-08-28 10:39:47 · answer #3 · answered by dassler 4 · 0 0

Why not just eliminate the negative treatment to both men and women and be done with it? Not all men want to be treated the same way you treat your male friends (I assume that's redundant in your case). Yet if a male friend of yours told you he didn't like it, you would probably respect that. Why wouldn't you respect it if a woman said the same thing? Do you hate women, as some answerers have suggested?

2006-08-09 09:27:13 · answer #4 · answered by galactonerd 2 · 0 1

Yeah rightio, what ever!

I was brought up doing mens work under the age of 10, I think I can act and think like a man when I want........
Just glad I use the head on my shoulders to do it , lol

I like being a woman, I have the best of both worlds, you wanna wear the skirt my friend, then you know what being tough is all about.


My ex tried it once (without the skirt) ....(((.for a month when I fell really ill. Two weeks after giving birth to my 7th child I was rushed in hospital critical. My new son was brought into the ward because he couldn't cope with all the children and his non stop crying. I was lucky I had been admitted to the maternity ward and the nurses cared for my son that first night because I was too ill myself......)))
he was alseep on the couch by 9pm...........awwwwwwwwwwwwww, so hard being a man! LMOL!
BUt it was a wake up call for him, until then he never really realised what being a mother involved

2006-08-08 12:24:27 · answer #5 · answered by WW 5 · 1 0

Depends on the woman. Some women can handle being treated equally and other can't.

But bottom line, most women are concerned with being paid equally and that should stand. If a woman is doing the EXACT same job as a male employee and has the EXACT same degree... then they should get paid the EXACT same.

Same goes for people of different ethnicities. That's what equality means. If a man enters a job and has a degree and is working the same job as the woman sitting next to him... he should get paid the same. sure their hours may differ and experience comes into play but equality should be there also.

As far as women getting smacked on the *** when we do a good job--- that's not equal. It's just a smack on the ***.

2006-08-09 19:30:41 · answer #6 · answered by Ang_Bluestones 4 · 0 2

Women want the same respect given to men; that does not mean they want to be treated like a man. Women are not men.

2006-08-16 03:29:00 · answer #7 · answered by Caffeinated 4 · 0 0

I love moment in p answer,

You couldn't have said it better, it's refreshing to see a complete, very well thought and said response regarding hatred towards women do to bitterness, anger, hostility and a clear picture of what being intimidated by women is, this is a clear portrait of such traits, boy!! It sounds to me like you need to go get some healing on issues with women, why?, Because walking around this way in life won't get you very far. And, by the way, did you forget where you came from? haha, just in case you did, let me remind you your mother is a woman. Good luck, and heal those wounds, ouch!!

2006-08-15 12:49:03 · answer #8 · answered by You are loved 5 · 0 0

I am a woman and i agree with you if the woman works hard and earns respect than she deserves it, but some of these women believe they should automatically be equal and thats not right because many men work their a** off to get to where they are at.

2006-08-16 11:36:10 · answer #9 · answered by shorty 2 · 1 0

U JERK! i am in architectural engineering school, and 95% of the population in most schools are men. They refer to women as "minorities", and they have to make sure that women get the same amount of jobs as men. ( which is pretty hard ) We want to be treated equally because its not right to single us out more than we already are.
The real question is why do men want to be so high and mighty, when they aren't any better than us women..?

2006-08-08 12:21:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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