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In February 1917, in the midst of World War I, Germany sent an encoded message to the their embassy in Mexico, requesting an alliance with Mexico in the event that the United States entered the war as response to unrestricted submarine warfare. The idea was an attack on the southern border would keep the U.S. from being able to send forces to Europe. In reality, the British intercepted the telegram, decoded it, and published the telegram, inflamming passions in the U.S. and speeding their entry into the war. My question is what if that didn't happen.

Please try to give a plausible set of consequences, including how the war would have happened, with the alternate events given. Thanks in advance.

2006-08-07 04:37:37 · 7 answers · asked by Ѕємι~Мαđ ŠçїєŋŧιѕТ 6 in Arts & Humanities History

Oops! I meant if, not is. Sorry.

2006-08-07 05:47:26 · update #1

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Given that the US economy was heavily involved in supplying weapons and food to Britain during the war, it was Germany's policy of unrestricted submarine warfare that really tipped the country into all out war. Since the Zimmerman telegram failed (Mexico didn't bite), I doubt that its publication mattered enough to push the country into war. The sinking of the Lusitania was enough.

2006-08-07 04:45:24 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

In short, I think the U.S. would have entered the war anyway, but not as soon. The Zimmerman Note inflamed American public opinion that was largely anti-German anyway. It did show though how far the Germans would go to win the war. Notice that nothing was said about California, really the true prize of Mexico's lost territories. At the time, Germany suggested that California be ceded to Japan if that asian country sided with the German Empire in WWI. But I digress, to answer your question: Mexico could not have realistically carried on a successful war with the U.S.; WWI might have gone on a little longer but the end results would have been the same. If Mexico had taken up Germany's offer though, and then been defeated by the U.S., I doubt it would have been so anti-Japanese in the next world war.

2006-08-07 22:37:50 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Maybe the real question should be why was the message intercepted and deciphered by the British on January 19th 1917 but not revealed to America until February 24th 1917. A strategic move on the part of Great Britain,withholding this information was all a part of British bid for America to join the allied war effort. Germany reneged on it's policy of not practicing unrestricted submarine warfare on January 31st. On February 3rd 1917 the U.S.broke all diplomatic ties with Germany as a result of this. The suspension of unrestricted submarine warfare was a huge factor in keeping America neutral.Something Germany very much desired. America was on the verge of declaring war on Germany and Great Britain had an ace up it's sleeve.Or should I say a straw,a straw that would break the camels back. So the question is not "Why did they intercept it?" this is obvious,but "Why did they withhold it for nearly a month?". Germany sought to distract the U.S. form entering WWI by trying to involve it in a conflict with Mexico a country that was not on good terms with America at the time anyway.

2016-03-27 02:19:23 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Wilson was looking for an excuse since 1914. The Lusitania failed to provide one so he hoped for others, and unrestricted submarine warfare to counter Britain's blockade was jsut what he needed.

A faster (months maybe) entry merely sealed Germany's fate. If Germany could have knocked France out of the war in August 1918, then the USA would have had to do a D-Day.

The question is, how vital to the outcome of WWI were the battles of Chateau Thierry and Belleau Wood?

The inability of the Germans and Irish in the USA to mobilize public opinion in the same way as the WASP's did, is what lost Germany the war, and set the stage for the holocaust to follow.

2006-08-07 04:47:23 · answer #4 · answered by Mike P 3 · 0 0

Zimmer Telegram

2016-11-02 23:49:01 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

If the British didn't intercept the message in the first place Mexico most likely wouldn't exist today. It would either be a baron waste land or more states for the U.S.

2013-11-01 01:54:49 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Zimmermann Telegram (The Zimmermann Note) was a coded telegram dispatched by the Foreign Secretary of the German Empire, Arthur Zimmermann, on February 19, 1917, to the German ambassador in Mexico, Heinrich von Eckardt, at the height of World War I. It instructed the ambassador to approach the Mexican government with a proposal to form an alliance against the United States. It was intercepted and decoded by the British and its contents hastened the entry of the United States into World War I.

Zimmermann's message included proposals for a German alliance with Mexico, while Germany would still try to maintain a state of neutrality with the United States. If this policy were to fail, the note suggested, the Mexican government should make common cause with Germany, try to persuade the Japanese government to join the new alliance, and attack the U.S. Germany, for its part, would provide financial assistance and the restoration of former territories of Texas (which had achieved independence in 1836), New Mexico and Arizona (which had been mostly ceded in the US-Mexico war of 1846–1848, the rest having been sold in 1853 in the Gadsden Purchase), to Mexico.

Later, a General assigned by Mexico's President, Venustiano Carranza, assessed the realities of a Mexican takeover of their former provinces and came to the conclusion that it would not work for the following reasons: taking over the three states would almost certainly cause future problems and probably war with the U.S .; Mexico would also be unable to accommodate a large Anglo population within its borders; and Germany would not be able to supply the arms needed in the hostilities that would surely arise. Carranza declined Zimmermann's proposals on April 14 by which time the US had declared war on Germany.

The telegram was intercepted and decrypted enough to get the gist of it by codebreakers Nigel de Grey, William Montgomery and Admiral William R. Hall of the British Naval Intelligence unit, Room 40. This was made possible because the code the Foreign Office used (0075) had been partially cryptanalyzed using, among other techniques, captured plaintext messages and a codebook for an earlier version of the cipher captured from Wilhelm Wassmuss, a German agent working in the Middle East.

The British government, which wanted to expose the incriminating telegram, faced a dilemma: if it boldly produced the actual telegram, the Germans would know that their code had been broken; and if it did not, it would lose a promising opportunity to draw the United States into World War I — the message was sent during a period when anti-German feeling in the United States was running particularly high, following the loss of some 128 US lives to German submarine attacks.

There was a further problem too — they could not simply confidentially show it to the United States government either. Because of its importance, the message had been sent from Berlin to the German ambassador in Washington, Johann von Bernstorff, for onward transmission to their ambassador in Mexico, von Eckardt, by three separate routes. The British had obtained it from just one of these — the Americans had given Germany access to their private diplomatic telegraph in an effort to encourage President Wilson's peace initiative. The Germans were not afraid of using it because the messages were encrypted, because as a matter of principle the United States did not at that time read other countries' diplomatic correspondence and because, unlike Britain, the US did not have any code-breaking capability. The telegraph cable went from the US Embassy in Berlin to Copenhagen and then via submarine cable to the United States via Britain (where it was monitored). For the British to reveal the source of the telegram to the United States would have meant also admitting to the American government that they had tapped US diplomatic communications.

The British government guessed that the German Embassy in Washington, D.C. would send the message on to the embassy in Mexico via the commercial telegraph system, and therefore a copy would exist in the public telegraph office in Mexico City. If they could get a copy, they could pass it on to the United States government stating that they had discovered it through espionage in Mexico. Therefore, they contacted a British agent in Mexico, known only as Mr. H., who managed to get a copy. In his autobiography, Sir Thomas Hohler, the British Ambassador in Mexico at that time, claims to have been Mr. H. To the delight of the British code breakers, the message had been sent from the German embassy in Washington to Mexico using the older cypher in the Wassmuss codebook and could therefore be completely decrypted — presumably because the German embassy in Mexico did not have the latest codebook.

The telegram was delivered by Admiral Hall to the British Foreign Minister, Arthur James Balfour, who in turn contacted the U.S. ambassador in Britain, Walter Page, and delivered the telegram to him on February 23. Two days later he relayed it to President Woodrow Wilson.

The popular sentiment in the United States at that time was generally as anti-Mexican as it was anti-German. General John J. Pershing had long been chasing the revolutionary Pancho Villa, who had carried out several cross-border raids. This was at great expense to the U.S. government, and Wilson was leaning towards discontinuing the search until new elections were held in Mexico, a new government installed, and a new constitution promulgated (a constitutional convention, which would adopt the 1917 Constitution of Mexico, was underway at the time). News of the telegram exacerbated tensions between the USA and Mexico, since such a treaty, if in place, would have hindered the election of a new Mexican government more friendly to U.S. interests.

On March 1, the U.S. government gave the plaintext of the telegram to the press. Initially the American public believed the telegram to be a fraud designed to bring them into the war on the Allied side. This opinion was bolstered by German, Mexican and Japanese diplomats, and by the American pacifist and pro-German lobbies, who all denounced the telegram as a forgery.

In an unexpected move, Zimmermann confirmed the authenticity of the telegram on March 3, and again in a speech on March 29, 1917. The speech was intended to explain his side of the situation. He began that he had not written a letter to Carranza but had given instructions to the German ambassador via a "route that had appeared to him to be a safe one".

He also said that despite the submarine offensive, he had hoped that the USA would remain neutral. His proposals to the Mexican government were only to be carried out if the US declared war, and he believed his instructions to be "absolutely loyal as regards the US". In fact, he blamed President Wilson for breaking off relations with Germany "with extraordinary roughness" after the telegram was intercepted, and that therefore the German ambassador "no longer had the opportunity to explain the German attitude, and that the US government had declined to negotiate".

There was a ring of honesty in the speech since Zimmermann would have had occasion to reflect on the impact of the telegram and its after effects in the meantime, but he was still prepared to defend its original ideas. However, it also revealed he was seriously misinformed about the real strength of the United States vis-à-vis its southern neighbour; but that was the fault of the German intelligence services.

Although the telegram began by stating that Germany was most interested in maintaining American neutrality while attacking its shipping, this confirmation of its basic enmity evoked an outpouring of anti-German sentiment. Wilson responded to this manifestation of German hostility towards the US by asking Congress to arm American ships so that they could fend off potential German submarine attacks. A few days later, on April 2, 1917, Wilson asked Congress to declare war on Germany. On April 6, 1917, Congress complied, bringing the United States into World War I.

German submarines had previously attacked US ships near the British Isles, so the telegram was not the only cause of US entry into the war; it did, however, play a critical role in swaying US public opinion. It was perceived as especially perfidious that the telegram was first transferred from the US embassy in Berlin to the German embassy in Washington before being passed on to Mexico. Once the American public believed the telegram to be real, it became all but inevitable that the USA would join the Great War.

In October 2005, it was revealed that an original typescript of the deciphered Zimmermann Telegram had recently been discovered by an unnamed historian who was researching and preparing an official history of the United Kingdom’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). The document is believed to be the actual telegram shown to the American ambassador in London in 1917. Marked in Admiral Hall's handwriting at the top of the document are the words: "This is the one handed to Dr Page and exposed by the President." Since many of the secret documents in this incident had been destroyed, it had previously been assumed that the original typed "decrypt" was gone forever. However, after discovery of this document, the GCHQ official historian said: "I believe that this is indeed the same document that Balfour handed to Page."

2006-08-07 04:43:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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