Do you think there should be same sex marriage? Also include reasons why or why not.?

Question

I am posting this question in religion and gay and lesbian groups.

Answer 1

I was tempted to just leave this one alone. I have answered this question until my fingers have to be forced to go through it all again. Then I was tempted to go to one of my other answers to this question and re-post it. Then I said, no. The people who do that often annoy me.

Equal rights and protection under the law and constitution of the United States means equal rights. For ANY group of people to RESTRICT the rights of a smaller group... no matter what the reason, is unconstitutional. It is illegal in this country to say that "this group" gets specific rights, but "this other group" does not.

Many people do not believe that marriage is a "right" that is provided by the constitution. They are, in fact, correct. But when the county, state, and federal system "recognizes" the institution of marriage, over a thousand rights, privileges, and protections go into effect. Those thousand rights are not available to homosexuals because only one state recognizes the equality of the two different unions... and the Federal government insists that it will never recognize the equality of the two different unions.

In a free democratic republic, when people want to RESTRICT the rights of the citizens in any way, they must show VALID REASONING for those rights to be restricted.

The argument that there shouldn't be gay marriage because the bible says that homosexuality is an abomination works great if you believe in the bible being the final word on current laws and equality provided... not by the bible, but by our government's founding documents. This argument is rendered invalid, anyway, because I don't know anybody who wants the marriage laws of any state in the Union to accurately reflect the rules of marriage as described in the bible. In biblical marriage, adultery was not what it means today. A man only committed adultery if he had sexual relations with another man's wife. A man was free to have many wives, even concubines . A woman committed adultery if she had sex with anybody other than her husband. The only reason for divorce according to the bible is if the husband finds that his wife has committed adultery.

Not if the wife decides she can't live with abuse. Not even if the children are in danger. Not if it turns out that the husband and wife hate each other.

When the people who oppose same gender marriage on religious grounds are fighting equally hard to get the "biblical" marriage on the law books, I will gladly consider that argument valid. I know that will never happen. Even if some people wanted that, it would never pass. Half of you don't take marriage vows seriously... even when society, the bible, and the government recognize it.

The "slippery slope" argument that insists that if gay marriage is legalized, then incestuous, pedophile and bestiality marriages will need to be recognized as well. People who secretly want to marry a family member, a child, or a pet usually make this argument. People with rational minds know that this argument is a "fear tactic" to mobilize people who don't know any better. Rational people understand the difference. Those with basic mental abilities know that none of those other issues have anything to do with homosexuality.

You may look at the nations that have recognized gay marriage and see that not a single one of them have even had proposals to recognize incestuous, pedophile, or bestiality marriages. Do these people think that only in America this would be a problem? If so, this country has a lot more problems than gay marriage.

I'm sure I could type on this subject all night, but I'd rather get my weekend underway.

The answer to this controversy is very simple:

If you don't believe in gay marriage,

Don't get married to a gay person!

Why is this such a complicated discussion?

Answer 2

I support governmental recognition of all marriages performed by recognized religious group, and that is the secret about the gay marriage question.

The gay marriage fight is really a battle between two groups of religious denominations - Christian and other in both cases. That battle is being missed by the media, and I believe that the battle threatens democracy in America.

One of the reasons for the Revolution, in which ancestors of mine fought -- was to establish freedom of religion in the new nation. Now, we are throwing that away, because contrary to what those on the Right would like you to think, this is not a battle between "people of faith" and "atheists" or some such -- this is a battle between two groups of people of faith, using the government to establish one side’s views -- the EXACT THING that the anti-establishmentarian clause of the Constitution is there to prevent.

Of course no one should "make" those whose faiths oppose gay marriage perform such marriages, and no one ever would. So ministers from the Southern Baptists and Assemblies of God and Ultra-Orthodox Jews and Fundamentalist Muslims should never be asked to perform gay marriages, and certainly not forced to.

On the other hand, why should faith groups that support gay marriage -- such as the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian/Universalist Society, the North American Spiritualist Church, Reform Judaism, and the Correllian Tradition of Wicca -- all recognized Churches and 501c3s be barred from practicing their religious faiths, which say it is ok to marry same sex couples?

The first group of faith groups is realistically using the government to prevent the second group of faith groups from practicing what they believe and having it legally recognized. The founders tried to prevent this, for the stability of the country. It doesn't matter that everyone "thinks" they are right and others are wrong -- it matters that we are plural as a society and the government should recognize everyone's ceremonies the same -- which means that gay marriages committed by churches and faith groups that believe in gay marriages, should be honored by the government regardless of what groups that don't like it say.

Everyone's beliefs can be honored, thus preserving the values that my 12 times removed Great Grandfather died for -- but not if we allow one side to legislate away the rights of the other side.

Since I do not believe the government should be used to control religious belief -- I think that the government should recognize gay marriage, when performed by members of clergy -- and should create a civil union equivalent for those interested only in secular marriage.

Otherwise we should stop saying we don't have an establishment of religion.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
http://www.rebuff.org
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Answer 3

of course there should be same sex marriages. if they love each other very much and want 2 take their love 2 the next step, then they should be allowed 2 get married. i read somewhere that if there were same sex marriages, a lot of money from the govt. or something like that would be saved but no. instead GLBT people have 2 struggle and alot of bigots and ******* have 2 make life harder 4 them. Just give them the right 2 marry and move on!GLBT 4 Life!!! ^_^

Answer 4

I honestly don't see a problem with it.
The actual ceremony of marriage wasn't actually done for religious reasons, it was a bartering system created by man to gain prosperity from his daughter. One daughter, 2 sheep etc.. It was only ordained by a minister to get "gods approval". So the whole religious argument about it really shouldnt' apply. Since we no longer have the bartering system, and arranged marriages, and we get married as a personal choice to spend the rest of our lives with someone who we love, why should it matter who a person chooses to marry?
Actually if a people would get their heads out of their hineys, they'd see it could actually help our lifestyle in many ways. By boosting the economy, tax breaks, and even the child care situation. Married people are more likely to adopt, which would help alleviate the number of children in foster care, group homes, and abusive families. Which studies show, children from good homes are less likely to commit crimes as adults therefore, making society a little safer. But just my opinion!

Answer 5

First of all, marriage is not a piece of paper or have a need to be ordained by a religious figure.... Personal opinion...

Marriage is a commitment of body, mind, heart, and soul.
Monogamous in nature without difficulty...
Love manifests in many aspects, and all should be honored with integrity.
Matters not the gender---what goes on behind closed doors is nobody's business but yours!

Let love be love is all I can say....makes for a more peaceful environment.
Take care
Mama

Answer 6

Ill put it this way. If you spend your life with someone and they need medical decisions made or they are in the hospital in intensive care and are going to die how would you feel if you were not allowed to see them and they died and you never got the chance to say goodbye. All becuase you are not family or related. Giving us this status would allow us to be with them during their final moments. How could you take that away from anyone at all.
Do you think that is right?

Answer 7

Yes there should be same sex marriage, If you love someone being the same sex shouldn't matter

Answer 8

Yes. Same sex marriages should be allowed.

It is no skin off my nose what other people do; and how other people chose to love each other and express that love.

Answer 9

Yes, cause people will still find way 2 do things they arent suppose 2. An besides whos 2 say its not rite? Think'a bout it....

Answer 10

of course there should be. bcuz its called equal human rights. if heterosexual can get married why cant gays? ppl talk like its a sin and its wrong. but if they dont believe in it then they shouldnt get married to the same sex. u cant help who u love.