Hugo Chavez, man of the people, making him a hero.?

Question

Hugo Chavez ensured that the corrupt few rich did not continue putting all money in their own pockets, but believed that natural resources of the country belongs to everyone and as such everyone should benefit from it, not just the few. And he accomplished it.. He doesn't put all the money in his own pocket, or serve only large businesses like most of the capitalist governments, USA in particular.

Why does america dislike him so much? Just because he doesn't let USA have their oil? Just because he hates USA, like most of the rest of the world? What the hell is america's problem with Chavez?

A waste trying to explain it to me? you mean it wasn't a waste for you to make that empty comment?

So basically you hate socialist traits, because you were brainwashed to hate it without even understanding it. Half the west european countries are socialist. It is not a communist country. Chavez is NOT a dictator, and the highest living standards in the world are found in socialistic west european countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Netherlands.

Maybe you can't explain because you don't really know.. you just believe in the american dogmatic ways like a religion..

I have not yet heard anyone give a good explanation. What is he doing that is illegal or wrong exactely? Of course USA doesn't like it because he doesn't act in the best interest of the USA.. why should he? Does that alone make him evil?

So far, it sounds like he should be nominated for the Nobel prize.

I'm truely dissapointed in the 'counter arguments'. It's dogmatic, it's supposed to be self evident. But when asked, the best you guys could come up with is "he didn't fix the road for the rich"..

If we had to list all the bad things that Bush did, the list would be endless.. as you can see plenty in these discussions. But all you could accuse Chavez of was.. just because he doesn't like USA or is friends with others who don't like USA. Well boo hoo!

Not 1 concrete argument as to why he's evil.. only empty accusations that he is.. take ANY man in the world, and you would be able to come up with more things wrong with them.. but this is the best you guys can do for a world leader? Speculations, dogmatic accusations, assuming socialism is evil and undemocratic and that this is self evident.. it's not..

Guys, I need concrete examples of wrong doings. America has supported terrorists many times in history, when these terrorists were fighting their wars (the enemy of my enemy is my friend). Infact, half the terrorists in the world, be it Taliban, Saddam, IRA, were supported, armed, some even trained by the USA.

Chavez has not done such thing.. he has just talked to Fidel Castro.. and if their cooperation can make lives better for Cubans and Venezuelans, what the HELL is your problem? Come back to me when chavez does do something wrong, until then, stop preaching religion.. (capitalism).

Just tagging someone 'communist' or 'socialist' does not itself mean any more than tagging america democratic. I trust Chavez has been elected in a more democratic way than Bush came to power. I want intellectual arguments and concrete, if necessary elaborate, answers, not just some typical braindead american pro-capitalist, anti-communist propaganda.. Did you guys get stuck in the McCarthy era or so?

Failed road? socialist europe doing bad?
Last time I checked, the highest living standards were in west europe, where the largest political parties are socialist.

Last time I checked, the USA is headed for bankrupcy. The biggest national debt in the world, with an interest rate that adds more to it per day than the whole gross national income of some of these european countries.
America's wealth is one big debt.. half your businesses are owned by european countries, half your jobs are being exported abroad, to communist countries like the USA, while the common american man weeps.. what about? Why do you have a problem with jobs being exported? Don't you understand your very own capitalism? It goes perfectely by that book.

Maybe what the common american is saying is that they really prefer socialism.. they just never were taught what that really means.. smart, that way they can't long for it either.

"Hugo is a socialist/communist a.k.a. looter"

Name tags are NOT intellectual arguments.
Speaking of looting.. how is it that americans only make up 4% of the world population but are consuming over 40% of the world's natural resources, far out most of it coming from abroad? If americans consume so much (7 times more than asians), how can america be so rich if it wasn't for lootin?
Search google for american imperialism. They teach it at your colleges in history class. Study british and dutch colonialism too while you're at it. Where do you think we got most of our wealth from since the 18th century? Today maybe industrialization and 'efficiency', but the means and time required for it, came from wealth looted from colonies. That was the most significant turning point in history for western wealth. USA itself was founded on this. What followed since then, scientific progress and such, was only a consequence, enabled by initially looted wealth.

Answer 1

Unfortunately some people believe the propaganda they are subjected to, and never bother to research the Honorable Hugo Chavez.

The USA has lost it's credibility, and is losing it's stranglehold on the rest of the world.
Hugo Chavez is a clear example of what can be achieved when countries disregard their orders from Washington:-
Over 17 million people now have access to free health care and medicines for the first time.
Over 1 million people taught to read and write.
Participation encouraged for all Venezuelans in the formation, implementation, and operation of their democracy.
Venezuela has become truly, a democracy of the people, by the people and for the people, after years of US intervention and suppression.

But of course the people in power in the USA have labeled Chavez a terrorist, communist, dictator, etc. etc.

Around the world, whenever an alternative political systems have emerged they have been brutally crushed, or isolated by our ruling elites for what they call "the threat of a good example"

There is at last hope for us all, a chance to end inequality, and injustice. :)

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0706-32.htm
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/
http://www.vicuk.org/
http://www.embavenez-us.org/constitution/intro.htm

Answer 2

He is nothing more than a Latin Mugabe and will lead his country to the same ruin. Governments produce nothing and can only distribute that which they've seized from their own citizens.

"First, they take away opportunity. Next, they take away possessions. In the end, they have to take away life itself."
America’s 30 Years War, ( Balint Vazonyi ) 1998

"Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they’ve passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. The race goes, not to the ablest at production, but the those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.”

Hugo is a socialist/communist a.k.a. looter. What he does with the loot in no way mitigates the fact that he is nothing more than a theif. But he has set him self up as the one who will determine who shall have what and how much. But he has established force as the determining factor not productivity.

Answer 3

Hugo Chavez is a man who supports the Iranian government (a bunch of terrorists), Fidel Castro (a murderer) and others like him. He is taking his country down a failed path. Look at the socialist western European countries. Check out their unemployment and compare that to the US. Check out their economic strength and compare that to the US. Germany used to have the #2 economy in the world. As they implemented more and more socialist ideals, they fell from that perch pretty quick.

Answer 4

he is my man i think he is one the world leader that these day you wont see much. all the guys i saw their answer it seems that they don't know that even bush is not the real Representative of the majority of the us people. i think he has started awakening in the central America. in us who ever says that gooo f.....uck your self and non of your business he becomes the terrorist supporter, hey all those who be live that being free and being free Dom fighter should wake up. he is one the hero's that soon you see that us will start to make coodeata against him. USA either buy leaders or make some plots against them it seems to me he was not bought by us/ Jewish politicians

Answer 5

Chavez is a Communist. He stole the "free" elections in VZ. If you talk to any VZ citizen they will tell you the same. Chavez has told everyone "I will be in charge for the next 20 years".

The bridge from Caracas Airport was washed out due to a huge storm that they had in Nov 05. Chavez response. "Why fix it? Only rich people use the road!" This caused the City to have their food and other goods imported 7 hrs over dangerous roads with huge trucks. They've had numerous accidents and deaths. Chavez also has tried to wrongly influence other neighboring countries by bribing them with his countries resources. his attempt failed with Bolivia when the people voted and said no thanks. Hopefully somebody will put a cap in his head soon.

Answer 6

Hugo Chavez should have been killed long ago.. and if it wasn't for that anti-American Jimmy Carter with his thou shalt not kill foreign dignitaries, we could get him killed.. His death would be one of the greatest things to happen in this hemisphere.. Watch him.. He wants his government in control of other Central American Countries to include that of Mexico... He is still fighting to get that leftish into the Presidency of Mexico so Mexico can continue to destroy the United States as they are doing with illegal immigration.

Answer 7

he is brave man,and i think he must be proud of being hated by the American Governments..the American governments divides the world in shallow way to Good guys and Bad guys...any one refuses to Oby the American pressure and blackmail will be Bad guys...
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The American Guilt
Nasim Zehra

We are witnessing real time unchecked killer machines at work. This is
all surreal. It appears that the world for the innocent seems no safer
today than when the Nazis and the Fascists were at work. Whatever the
explanations, the outcome of deliberate Israeli and retaliatory
Hizbullah
action is mayhem. Global paralysis is facilitating Lebanese and Israeli
deaths and colossal destruction of Lebanon. Innocent civilians fleeing
to
safety are being hit by Israeli bombs and missiles. Near 400 Lebanese
have
been killed and nearing a million rendered homeless. In Israel too
Hizbullah's retaliatory missile attacks have also tragically left few
innocent Israeli civilian dead. All this mindless killing of innocent
citizens is condemnable.

As Israeli bombs and missiles rain carnage on Lebanon world's major
powers still decry Hizbullah's provocation. The capture of two Israeli
soldiers and the subsequent deaths of six more as they entered Lebanon
to free the two, has been widely accepted as justification for
Israel's relentless air, sea and air attacks and blockades.

There are major holes in this justification. One, that there are
10,000 Palestinian and Arab prisoners, mostly civilians, in Israeli
jails and there is no way legal or political route to their release.
But the world doesn't care. Two, stonewalled by Israel's
intransigence on the
prisoners' issue the Hizbullah militia devised their own method for
the release of Lebanese prisoners. Use captured Israeli soldiers, swap
them for Lebanese prisoners. And it worked. Israeli Prime Ministers
Ariel Sharon and Ehud Barak both opted for swap arrangements. For
example in January 2004, Israel released about 400 Lebanese and Arab
prisoners while Hezbollah returned a reserve Israeli colonel and the
bodies of three soldiers under a German-brokered agreement.

Three, Israel was intent on destroying the Hizbullah at an opportune
moment. Israeli's military strategists have been claiming that
Hizbullah's rockets arsenal had been growing. Zvi Shtauber former
head of Strategic Planning for Israel's armed forces and now head of
Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies in Tel Aviv told the Economist
(July22-28)that, "It was clear we couldn't live with the missiles…the
question was when to do it." Israel opted to use the arrest of
soldiers as pretext to remove what it had concluded was threat to its
security.

In search of security Israel resorted to State-terrorism in Lebanon
that produced the carnage. However with language play Israel seeks to
play down the scale and the consequences of its horrendous actions.
They are terming it pin-point incursions; "limited strikes." But media
reports tell another story…Israeli bombs and rockets battering
innocent children and women. Instead of engagement and compromise
death and destruction of the opponent has been a key element of
Israel's security strategy. Palestinian and Lebanese guerilla
leadership is routinely assassinated, also causing death to innocent
civilians qualified as 'collateral damage.'

On July 23 BBC reports that Jan Egeland the Chief of UN Emergency
Relief shocked that in Southern Beirut "block after block" of
buildings had been leveled by Israel's bombings. England said Israel's
"disproportionate response" was a "violation of international
humanitarian law." Contesting Israel's repeated statements that it was
allowing safe access to humanitarian groups he said "So far Israel is
not giving us access." Moreover the mass scale destruction of roads,
bridges and trucks will make aid distribution difficult even when
Israel allows to dock at the Beirut port.

The world has facilitated Israel's continuing crime. As always the
muted Arab and Muslim response are inconsequential. UN's early
murmurings against disproportionate response, were initially ignored.
Led by the United States the international community has given Israel
a carte blanche to do whatever Israel considers necessary to promote
its security. This was conveyed by the mild worded G-8 summit
statement. Ironically it is a security-starved nuclear-state. It is
not held to any accountability; it is not expected to abide
by any international norms laid down for inter-State relations.

Washington has emerged as the core accomplice in Israel's devastating
and illegal war on Lebanon. It gave Tel Aviv the green light to
continue the bombings. Bush has defended Israel's battering of
Lebanon. It is Israel's right to act in "self-defense", he says.
Washington okays Israel's bid of seeking security by inflicting mayhem
on another people. Surely this is disservice to a close friend. Yet it
continues. The attempt to discuss the Lebanon situation in the UNSC
was vetoed by the US. The US Congress, the House and the Senate both,
passed resolutions supporting Israeli action. The US is reportedly
rushing precision-guided bombs to Israel. By preventing any concrete
action taken at the UN to censure Israel's war on Lebanon, Washington
has ensured that Israel can continue the illegal one-sided war
unfettered.

In handling the Lebanon crisis US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
is at her weakest. bout Israel's relentless bombing
and land attacks killing hundreds of Lebanese civilians, displacing
half a million plus and reducing parts of Lebanon to rubble, she says
it signifies "the birth pangs of a new Middle East, and whatever we do
we have to be certain that we are pushing forward to the new Middle
East, not going back to the old one." Her words would make for parody,
if the backdrop wasn't unstoppable blood-spilling in the region
stretching from Afghanistan to Palestine.

Another Rice statement that "a cease-fire would be a false promise if
it simply returns us to the status quo" conveys Washington's position
that the problem with the "staus quo" is the presence of an armed
Hizbullah. History lesson is different. The primary problem with the
status quo is the unresolved Palestinian problem. Rest are the
inevitable 'secondaries.' But this truth gets drowned in the ballot
logic.

For the Bush administration a fair and swift settlement of the
Palestinian issue is not a priority policy concern. If Washington has
talked of a two-state solution, it has certainly not worked
judiciously to make it happen. Taking punitive action against groups
and states it has dangerously labeled as terrorism-related is. In
giving Israel the green light to destroy Lebanon, Washington
erroneously believes that Israel's military might will wipe out
Hizbullah, Hammas and Islamic extremism, help take punitive measures
against Iran and Syria, structure Lebanese politics according to
Israel's security needs and drive fear into the Palestinian hearts.
This is hubris. It is sheer stubbornness that makes Washington believe
that military force, the very policy tool that has produced a disaster
in Iraq will produce success in Lebanon and Palestine.

America's promise of a brave new Middle East is increasingly being
reduced to a ghastly joke. The list of blunders is endless. The Iraq
invasion, based on untruth has turned Iraq into a death zone. No less
than dozens of Iraqis are now dying daily. Yes daily. US has lost 2000
of its own men too. In Afghanistan, the New York Times has finally
conceded, all is not well. Its more than Pakistan mischief, there are
problems within Afghanistan. Meanwhile all these American operations
are costing the US army more than just the lives of America's best
men. Its honor is taking a battering. The gruesome stories of some US
soldiers torturing prisoners, many of them innocent, in Iraq,
Afghanistan and
Guantanomobay just don't end.

It turns out that 'Project democracy' in the Middle East too has gone
sour. Washington welcomed the first democratically elected government
in the region, the Palestinian government, with sanctions and
censures. Lebanon the other country with a democratic government is
being pulverized by Washington's key ally.

In the Middle East, Washington's proverbial 'ostrich with its head in
the sand' attitude will solve nothing. No matter what their problems,
countries including Syria and Iran and groups like Hammas, Hizbullah
and the talibaan, will have to be engaged. They constitute part of the
current reality. Washington will ignore them at its own peril.
Similarly on Palestine there is no substitute for a just solution. A
nuclear armed highly militarized Israel, a 'pacified' Arab elite and a
Palestinian people under constant siege can only provided the illusion
of a 'solution.' And also the mere illusion of peace and stability.

Diplomacy was forsaken by the US for the use of force. How many more
blunders will it take the US to realize that its ways are wrong.
Banishing and vanquishing governments, political groups and militias
doesn't work. Engagement, adjustment and compromises are ways towards
genuine multilateral security. Nothing else will work. The road to
Israeli security runs through the creation of a legitimate Palestinian
homeland.


Nasim Zehra
Harvard Fellow
Harvard University Asia Center
625 Mass Ave,
Cambridge Mass.02139}

Answer 8

Hugo Chavez is one scarey dude! He would not be on my who wants to be a hero list!

Answer 9

That would be like saying Josef Stalin is a hero..

Answer 10

you got to be kidding?
it would be a waste of time trying to explain it to you