what do you consider to be veiled racism?

Question

does it strike you as wrong for a white person to tell anyone of another race to just "get over" slavery or discrimination?or doesnt it sound wack for a person of the average white majority to tell anyone else things such as to"get over" kosovo,"get over" gas chambers,"get over" this and that and "get a life" deal with it" etc-while telling others to "get over" things like that,it may not be an outright racial slur and it doesnt mean that you support those things,but doesnt that just sound like it belittles serious issues and serious atrocities from a rather sheltered, culturally self-centered point of view? please understand that i am not saying this about anyone specific out there because the people with the q&a are anonymous - i'm just sayin that there are such people who say comments like the above -what do u think about that?do u find it to be wrong? do u think it's okay, not a big deal? its a question just for human beings - i dont care if you're white, black, blue or green

please answer my question seriously and explain your stance or dont answer. dont add another "get over it" or a "you racist" or "i'm white that doesnt mean i keep slaves" (of course not - i know that doesnt exist in the u.s. today) - i repeat please do not respond without seriously reading or seriously answering questions. p.s. it doesnt surprise me a bit that a cowboy hat avatar would write me (so [stereo]typically) "get over it." real witty there, lone ranger. and mr mumbai yes you seem to have common sense and at least some sensitivity. thank you

i dont care about recommending to take control of your destiny - obviously, that makes sense and anyone of any color should be told to move beyond victimhood and beyond playing the blame game - its more about the tone in which it is said. is it not possible to tell someone to serve their own interests to get a better life constructively but maybe with a little more understanding in the words you use when speaking to them? and for whoever wrote that i dont see whats racist about the NAACP

mary c, you sound like a smart girl, and thank you. keep your head up and never mind the bullocks. some people find it way too easy to dismiss another's plight or to see any world or life other than their own. if a white friend of mine thought he wasnt getting a job because he came from a bad neighborhood and thought employers were putting a stigma on it i wouldnt say "get over it, freak and be productive- whaddaya want a handout" (?!!)-not if it was a friend of mine. thats insane. so why is it any less offensive to talk that way to a so-called "Pity-Me-I'm-a-Victim" non-majority person?maybe they are looking for SYMPATHY, not PITY. 4 those of you sharp enough to catch the subtle difference between "SYMpathetic" and "pathetic" if u were using "get over it" in that tone to a white friend you know damn well theyd take it like you were insulting them.don't u think non-whites have the same feelings when told the harsh reality in an equally harsh tone of complete emotionless insensitivity?

the real gary coleman's penis is probably much bigger than the heart of the dude who called himself that. and the dude who wrote about looking down on the observation of just about every non-white, non-christian holiday or organization he could think of is a true example of the kind of shitt i am talkin about. what you wrote there, pal, is
So.Damn.L A M E! it would take somebody who writes ignorant stuff like that 12 promotions to even b e gary coleman's penis. how do you like them apples, trent lott?

and i cant believe that some ******* genius asks if the kkk was right - this blatant unveiled racist is an example of how freedom of speech can lead us to freedom of fascism. kind of like "the so-called democratic freedom to preach genocide." the iq on this miserable little prejudiced, racist gremlin is staggering

yeah missy the black and white deal is just brown and pink pigment exaggerated by hateful idiots. as for walking on eggshells, just rephrase what you're saying and show how genuine your intentions are. p.s. its not just people of one specific color who can twist your words around to make you sound racist - any color or religion can do that. what you said about self-victimization may only be true in certain cases, i wouldnt say all of them. i don't agree that african or latino americans are "only blaiming and looking for a handout, seeking to be eternal victims" - its not right to say that about all of them so i would watch saying that or come back and rephrse myself. maybe these are examples of only particular people with a certain attitude that you had the chances of running into. that doesnt mean they are all like that.

man from mumbai and mary c were the most solid answers so far. as for others, sensitivity is a thing u constantly work on. some have good intentions but some work on the tone they use - the really callous ones are so far beyond the point of re-checking themselves because they sadly, just dont care and think theyre the man for it, too

p.s. i don't see racial defensiveness as racism. often if you're used to unfair treatment you may feel that its coming again when it isnt. its not that they are themselves racist, but that they might have misunderstood you to be racist when you arent. if its really important to you, you would explain yourself and "walk on eggshells" not because you have to but because you want to, and caus u are concerned about coming across fair+decent. understandably people of a group that is more likely to experience discrimination than any member of the white majority - can be sensitive. its just if you have sincere intentions to show that you don't think anybody is more or less than another based on skin color/religion, you may moderate and rephrase your words to show that you really care. as long as it comes from a real place and you want to make the effort not to be misunderstood as racist if in fact what you're trying to get across is racially considerate and open-minded and fair, not racist.

and p.s. "using 'Their' own words against themselves?- dont play the fool: if a black person feels enough rapport and is comfortable using the "N" word on a friend of theirs or hearing it back from a friend or family that is their business to decide, not yours (and if they feel comfortable with a white friend, they'll use that slang in a way of familiarity). if they don't know you and you use that word in a hostile or derogatory context, of course they should be pissed! if two bald people want to call each other "bowling ball head," thats their business. they're using it ironically. theyre not really puttin each other down +they have that understanding between them.if u have a full head of hair +u say that to one of these couple of bald guys i made up, you are not saying it in a tone of familiarity or sympathetically caus u don't know them-so they'd have every right to be pissed at you.that'd be a bad judgement call and inconsiderate-so use common sense.know them 1st +feel it out

lets say 2 friends feel open w/each other &JOKINGLY say to each other "yo mamma's a whore"-but they know each other and dont mean it. they could be of any color or religion-this is an imaginary situation.but lets say u dont know them, walk by and say the same thing to one of them. u wanna tell me you'd be surprised if they got mad?or doesnt it mean that your judgements a bit off to say the least-it indicates that u have no concept of what to tell who.dont tell me its reverse discrimination for someone not to let u use a racial slur on them but they do use it on people of the same ethnicity-OR WHOEVER THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE USING IT WITH.i bet a tear comes to your eye when u watch "pretty woman" and somebody actually calls julia roberts' character "whore."but to put her down for that is not the same as2 call girls calling each other "whore" in jest.& the whole "n" word stems from latin words for black in distorted southern slang- skin's brown and pink anyway! NO skin colors "Wrong," yo!

Answer 1

You know, I agree with you 100%. The same people that say "get over it" " they act like we owe them" are ususally the ones that are racist. They are aware of the hardships we go through, but choose to overlook it. They say that we need to get off the system and work. OK, the minorities that do work and make a decent salary are accused of taking their jobs. We go to schools for 4 to 12 years, we work harder than whites for our positions, but they claim that we got the jobs because of affirmative action. They are the biggest hypocrites!

Answer 2

I consider veiled racism to be when any person uses certain words & phrases to describe other people & situations, yet when someone of a different sex, race, culture, or background uses these same words & phrases, THAT first person feels as if they are being attacked & calls others racists, bigots, & in some way takes offense at hearing their own words being used in reference to themselves. I had a similar cimcumstance when I answered a question about "whites walking on eggshells in regards to black people". It was O.K. for the asker (a black male) to use these terms & downgrade the black race, but when I (a white female) made reference to a real life situation that I had experienced with a black woman, the asker accused me of being ignorant & racist, when all I was doing was sharing what I had seen I felt in regards to his question. THAT IS VEILED RACISM IN MY OPINION. I think that ALL people operate on a level that is comfortable & familiar to them. Many people have problems asking others what is really on their mind & when they read something that seems like an attack, they rarely take the time to ask questions & communicate with one another & learn what the other person is trying to communicate. Many people use words to try & trap people so that they can have the upper hand & attempt to manipulate the situation & remain VICTIMS in order to gain sympathy & control of others. I speak the truth & I have found that this weeds out the manipulators faster than you can spell racist. Personally, I hate the fact that we need to call ourselves anything other than HUMAN! I have never understood this color thing because I don't think we live in a black & white world. We haven't forgotton about where we came from, because most of us just don't know!

Answer 3

I do not consider a recommendation to move beyond victimhood to be a racist or veiled racist comment. In some cases it could be insensitive, depending on how recent & severe the incident was. But everyone in their lives, regardless of how terrible their past, needs to at some point move beyond their past and embrace their future without dwelling in victimhood & the blame game. This is sound advice and not racist because it applies to everyone regardless of skin color.

Answer 4

Ok so assuming that your a believer in heaven and hell, exceptionally the biblical variant, it is a position of torture, and now not like kinky torture. More like having the picture of the man or woman you like so much inform you how a lot the despise and hate you. I'm now not pronouncing that is what it could be however I'm definite that is what it could suppose like. I could be your worst nightmare expanded through one million 000 000 and also you could undergo it for eternity with out the even the slightest desire of it ever finishing. Fear and each emotion that includes it could be the one factor you could recognise. But like I mentioned, that is assuming you think in that style of factor.

Answer 5

These appear to me to be racist organizations or events:

Miss Black America.
United ***** College Fund.
Martin Luther King Day.
Black History Month.
Cesar Chavez Day.
Yom Hashoah
Ma'uled Al-Nabi
NAACP.
BET.

Not trying to be a jerk, but if there was an alternative to these, would there not be a monstrous hue and cry? It is confusing why one kind of racism is positive, and one is negative. Should not racism at all be bad?

Answer 6

veiled racism is like a college student going to a racial equality class, taking part in mixed activities then going home and calling people n.i.g.g.e.rs. it happens a lot and more than people would like to admit to. people are typically hypocrites when it comes to things like this.

Answer 7

Totally. Get over it and be productive. Shut up.

Answer 8

i say,"get over it".