creationism and intellegent design theory: is it a load of shite?

Answer 1

No. They have no place in a *science* classroom ... but they are valid lines of human inquiry.

Creationism isn't even close to a science. The concept of a divine creator doesn't come close to actually explaining anything. However, as an article of faith, it should not be dismissed or ridiculed as "shite" by the science-minded. And there are ways of reconciling the belief in a divine creator, with the theory of evolution (see the Catholic take on this, given in Sources, below).

Intelligent Design (although I would hesitate to put the word "theory" after it) at least tries to ask the right questions in scientific language (e.g. about complexity and information) ... but asking good questions is not nearly enough to make a scientific theory ... it needs to actually provide some explanatory answers, and to make predictions with which those answers can be tested.

Answer 2

no, not really. There is a difference between science and religion. Unfortunately religion in the monotheistic world has been highjacked by power hungry individuals and the United States, alone among the industrial democracies, is under seige by religious literalists. If we look at the Bible stories as myth, the problem disappears. Myth expresses a level of reality that is beyond language. So myth is stories that point to something that cannot be conveyed through language but is extremely powerful. Our problem is that the myths have been highjacked by the literalists. A good source of additional insight is the writings of Joseph Campbell. "Hero with a Thousand Faces" comes to mind. Also Google is your friend, pro and con.

Answer 3

it depends on how you view things. i think the other answers here i pretty much agree with.

but then what if the creationism idea is false. i dont believe that something can come from nothing. i believe like begats like and i believe that just like every artist has a certain style, the creation reminds you of the creator. so i believe creation and intelligent design go hand in hand.

given that the simplest organ in the human body is more complex than anything man has created. the fact that the world can function on its own, like the beating of your own heart.

the delicate design of the human eye, where EVERYTHING comes together for you to be able to see. i dont see how that could have evolved. i know evolution isnt the only theory that doesnt normally support a creator, but it seems to be the main one.

aside from natural laws, what of moral laws. why are there consequences for sin, and guilt from sin? why does the world have to be beautiful. but even so, why is there suffering.

it just depends on how you view things. "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- Albert Einstein

*to answer someones question on here, thats easy. at least within christianity because thats what i believe in. god is three yet one and eternal. no beginning or end.

the thing with evolution is that no one can live or has lived for that matter...long enough to truly be able to witness major evolution. minor maybe, but nothing major.

Answer 4

Not at all...but neither of them belong in a science class. Your beliefs on the origin of people and our universe are your own. Some beliefs require faith while others require observations.

That being said...I.D. is not based on science at all. It assumes we are too stupid to figure out the origin of people so there must be an "intelligent creator"
Science does not work like this at all. Science takes the best available data and proposes a theory. Since ID uses no tangable data...it is not science.

If you think it should be taught to your kids...teach it to them or take them to church.


If people were designed by a creator....he/she/it did a piss poor job of it. Humans are extermely innefficient wasting tons of energy in the form of heat for example. Moreover the anatomy of most mammals is terrible. Vital organs are not properly protected and why would the somebody goto all the trouble of making an extremely secure head to protect the brain...but then make the neck vulnerable.

Not intelligent at all if you ask me.

Answer 5

Intelligent design is a not so intelligent idea that failed in its attempt to include religious belief into science, as in, explain religion making the "creator" a scientist. It was a good attempt however, and I applaud those who tried it.

But then the fundies came and it all went to hell.

Creationism is something that only the really weak minded, the really closed minded or the really lazy tend to believe in. Created in his own image... how self centered can you be to say that?

Please...

You see, it's easier to believe that a "superior being" created the whole show than actually learning complex biochemical pathways and amino acid interactions and such.

So to answer your question, yes, shite.

Answer 6

No - just different opinions. Intelligent theory is just a twist on creationism to make it sound like more of a science.

The fact is, we really don't know. We can use science to make a conclusion, but there are still a lot of unknowns. Creationism requires faith and the belief that someone else knows what they are talking about without a shred of evidence.

Answer 7

That's two different questions.

I think creationism is a load of shite, yes.

But intelligent design theory covers a multitude of beliefs.

Answer 8

I listened to the arguments for creationism and against evolution by some bible basher in the middle of town. The whole approach isn't scientific and lacks credible resources, not only that but the guy who was doing it diverged and started to preach the word of jesus, and not returning to the whole reason he was standing there in the first place. That was all i needed to see to make me belive that this nonsense will be long forgotten by the end of the decade.

Answer 9

Not really an answer to the question, but just an observation about the answer above...

If you don't believe that something came from nothing, then who created the creator? I don't necessarily think the theory of evolution is based on something coming from nothing...more like (and please excuse the simplistic terms) some very small but complicated things came together to produce something else.

Also, evolution can be scientifically proven. We can see how nature evolves in order to survive the damage that mankind exerts on it...just look around.

Like I said, not really an answer, just an observation.

Answer 10

Of coarse it is. To question science is so ridiculous. These people run around saying evolution is a theory, Well so is Gravity. I think I will stop believing in the theory of Gravity and float to work in the morning.